posse_rit_monday
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#teachingopensource Meeting

Meeting started by mchua at 12:13:14 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Topic_Schedule (mchua, 12:57:29)
    2. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Monday (mchua, 12:57:34)

  1. Introduction to POSSE (mchua, 13:01:59)
    1. http://teachingopensource.org - TOS - a community of people interested in teaching students how to participate as contributors in FOSS communities. (mchua, 13:02:55)

  2. What is FOSS? (mchua, 13:03:23)
    1. Participant answer: FOSS is sharing source (mchua, 13:04:38)
    2. Participant answer: FOSS has a distributed, diverse group of people behind that source (code) (mchua, 13:04:51)
    3. Chris: There's also the "open" part of open source - which is that anyone can get involved in these projects. (mchua, 13:05:57)
    4. Chris is recapping a brief history of FOSS - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source if you're catching up from backlogs. (It doesn't have everything Chris is talking about, but will give you a reasonably good overview.) (mchua, 13:08:43)
    5. Our teaching model: wild immersion rather than sequential scaffolding. You're learning how to be productively lost - confused, but working independently on Getting Stuff Done nevertheless. (mchua, 13:14:49)
    6. FOSS is messy. The world is messy. There aren't answers in the back of the book. This is all the same stuff you tell your students, most likely - and we're going to be doing it to *you* this week. ;) (mchua, 13:15:13)
    7. If you get lost or stuck, reach out for help beyond yourself - it's your social/communication as much as (actually, more) than your tech skills that will make you successful. (mchua, 13:15:43)
    8. You already know how to be good professors, good CS practitioners, engineers, writers, etc - whatever you teach - we're going to teach you how to do it The Open Source Way, with the millions of communities and contributors that are out there to partner with. (mchua, 13:16:49)
    9. It will be disorienting, and it will be hard. You have been warned. :D (mchua, 13:16:58)
    10. Chris polled the classroom - pretty much everyone uses at least one FOSS app, few people use FOSS for most of what they do. (mchua, 13:19:43)
    11. http://piratepad.net/rit-posse-todo (mchua, 13:50:21)
    12. Chris is explaining Fedora right now, after which I will be explaining Sugar (mchua, 14:12:39)

  3. Morning break - followed by IRC: The Introduction (mchua, 14:32:51)
    1. http://fedoraproject.org (mchua, 14:48:59)
    2. http://sugarlabs.org (mchua, 14:49:07)
    3. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick (mchua, 14:49:10)
    4. Definition: packaging -- the act of putting software (lots of raw code) into a format (one nicely bundled file) that is easy to install. (mchua, 14:51:05)
    5. Definition: upstream & downstream - producers and consumers of open source/content, respectively. (mchua, 14:51:40)
    6. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Things_we_want_to_accomplish_this_week (mchua, 14:53:31)
    7. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT#Glossary (mchua, 14:54:53)
    8. We're keeping a glossary of terms throughout the week - we can add new terms on IRC and on the whiteboard, but eventually we'll try to get them on this wiki page. (mchua, 14:55:59)

  4. Introduction to tools (mchua, 14:56:32)
    1. Wikis - collaboratively editable webpages. (mchua, 14:56:43)
    2. Some examples are below. (mchua, 14:56:47)
    3. http://teachingopensource.org (mchua, 14:56:55)
    4. http://teachingopensource.org (mchua, 14:57:14)
    5. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org (mchua, 14:57:23)
    6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki (mchua, 14:57:37)
    7. Wikis are good for keeping collaborative notes/documentation/project-homepages, etc. (mchua, 14:57:49)
    8. Blogging and Planets - planets are blog aggregators. Some examples: (mchua, 14:57:59)
    9. http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ (mchua, 14:58:14)
    10. http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ (mchua, 14:58:22)
    11. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (mchua, 14:58:30)
    12. Why blog? Think of it as a journal, a project notebook - a way to tell others what you're working on. (mchua, 14:59:04)
    13. http://www.sububi.org/2009/07/27/the-busy-students-guide-to-project-blogging/ (mchua, 14:59:07)
    14. Why read Planets? Think of it as reading other people's journals - it's a way of keeping up to date on what they're thinking about and working on. (mchua, 14:59:29)
    15. Blogging in FOSS is very informal - rough drafts, braindumps, questions... thinking out loud - all the way up to more polished "I now present my project!" posts (much rarer). (mchua, 14:59:51)
    16. You can make a Planet from any collection of feeds - for instance, you might want to have a feed for all the bloggers from your school.... (mchua, 15:00:36)
    17. http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/~chris.tyler/planet/ (mchua, 15:00:40)
    18. ...or your class. (mchua, 15:02:23)
    19. http://act.ivism.org/blogs/pulse/ (mchua, 15:02:27)
    20. The last link was the planet for this class: (mchua, 15:02:45)
    21. http://www.rockalypse.org/courses/fs102sp10/ (mchua, 15:02:47)
    22. Note that this class is *not* a technical class - it's a freshman seminar covering activism and teaching things like writing and public speaking. (mchua, 15:03:04)
    23. You may think that the stuff you're doing with your class isn't important to the community, but you never know - so you *should* tell them! You might be surprised. (mchua, 15:04:53)
    24. - the assignment is to make a wiki user page on the teaching open source wiki. (mchua, 15:32:16)
    25. - the catch is that you can't edit your own page *and* you can only coordinate with the person you're working with via IRC. (mchua, 15:32:27)

  5. IRC quirks (mchua, 17:05:26)
    1. To send a private message to someone, use /msg (mchua, 17:07:20)
    2. tab-completion works with nicks - for instanc, mch<TAB> will likely autocomplete my nick (mchua) (mchua, 17:07:38)
    3. http://fpaste.org/0GfZ/ (posse-projector, 17:09:55)

  6. Creating a blog (mchua, 17:21:54)
    1. http://wordpress.com (mchua, 17:22:05)
    2. http://blogger.com (mchua, 17:22:08)
    3. http://typepad.com (sdziallas, 17:24:36)
    4. http://typepad.com (mchua, 17:24:47)
    5. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting (mchua, 17:26:25)
    6. Mediawiki syntax cheat sheet in the link above (mchua, 17:26:32)
    7. http://teachingopensourse.org/index.php/POSSE_RIT # details of deliverables (posse-projector, 17:31:42)
    8. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List (ctyler, 17:39:54)
    9. http://rgwteaching.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default # rss/atom feed for that URL (ctyler, 18:10:59)
    10. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet # Planet itself is at this URL (ctyler, 18:13:02)

  7. And now, we interrupt for a word about FOSSCon... (mchua, 18:18:05)
    1. file:///usr/share/bookmarks/default-bookmarks.html (mchua, 18:18:50)
    2. http://fosscon.org/ (mchua, 18:19:00)
    3. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List (ctyler, 18:30:28)
    4. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (ctyler, 18:32:17)


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