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#teachingopensource-posse Meeting

Meeting started by tira at 00:25:41 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ (mchua_, 00:34:20)
    2. http://www.paulmellors.net/2009/11/fedora-12 (mchua_, 00:37:52)
    3. http://gpl-violations.org/ (mchua_, 00:40:31)
    4. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/09/sharp-tv-violating-gpl/ (mchua_, 00:40:47)
    5. http://www.nycresistor.com/2009/11/11/mit-opencourseware-introduction-to-algorithms/ (mchua_, 00:46:32)
    6. http://osp.wikidot.com/; (mchua_, 00:47:23)
    7. http://www.flickr.com/groups/83823859@N00/ (mchua_, 00:47:27)
    8. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/zodbot (quaid, 00:50:19)
    9. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=supybot-fedora.git;a=summary, (quaid, 00:51:26)
    10. http://planet.fedora-zh.org/ (mchua_, 00:54:57)
    11. http://planet.szlug.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:03)
    12. http://planet.gentoo-cn.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:06)
    13. http://planet.kernel.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:11)
    14. http://planet.fedoraproject.org (mchua_, 00:55:15)
    15. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (mchua_, 00:55:22)
    16. http://planet.gnome.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:26)
    17. http://planetkde.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:30)
    18. http://planet.lxde.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:34)
    19. http://planet.gentoo.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:37)
    20. http://www.planetplanet.org/ (mchua_, 00:55:41)
    21. We're starting with having everybody pick a Planet to read, and sharing interesting links they're finding with the rest of the class. (mchua_, 00:57:05)
    22. http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/217-StudentProject-keyword-in-Fedora-Bugzilla.html (mchua_, 00:57:42)
    23. http://harishpillay.livejournal.com/166707.html (mchua_, 00:59:09)
    24. http://www.theoscarproject.org (mchua_, 00:59:36)
    25. http://blog.hfoss.org/ (pohyee-cheong, 01:00:37)
    26. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/supybot.html (quaid, 01:01:46)
    27. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/supybot-fedora.html (quaid, 01:01:55)
    28. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/supybot-koji.html (quaid, 01:02:03)
    29. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/supybot-meetbot.html (quaid, 01:02:12)
    30. http://talk.fedoraproject.org (quaid, 01:04:54)
    31. http://tatica.org/2009/11/11/056365-cuando-la-alegria-se-refleja-en-tu-rostro-when-joy-is-reflected-in-your-face/ (mchua_, 01:05:14)
    32. http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f11.html - Good site for people who want to install other software on Fedora 11. (kinchew, 01:06:00)
    33. http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/unpackaged-font-of-the-week-comic-serif-pro/ (mchua_, 01:07:08)
    34. http://iquaid.org/2009/11/11/calling-out-superrockstars-considered-harmful/ (ianweller, 01:07:31)
    35. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/ (ianweller, 01:07:39)
    36. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo (mchua_, 01:09:40)
    37. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade (harish, 01:10:41)
    38. Video Big Buck Bunny [OpenSource projet Blender] http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5qlpm_big-buck-bunny-opensource-projet-bl_creation (YeLong, 01:10:43)
    39. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick (mchua_, 01:12:57)
    40. how about APEC & Open Source here? http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Symposium_on_Open_Source_and_Open_Course_for_E-Learning (YeLong, 01:14:32)
    41. http://java-source.net/ (jaricsng, 01:16:13)
    42. http://eclipse.org (mchua_, 01:17:58)

  2. Why Planets are awesome (mchua_, 01:27:59)
    1. http://www.mip-site.org/ (jaricsng, 01:32:15)

  3. What are we doing today? (mchua_, 01:34:05)
    1. http://unix-center.org/ (YeLong, 01:34:28)
    2. I hope your guys to see this page http://unix-center.org/ (YeLong, 01:36:08)

  4. Documentation (mchua_, 01:55:45)
    1. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teachingopensource-posse/2009-11-12/ (mchua_, 02:02:35)
    2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Docs_Project (quaid, 02:03:40)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Git_Quickref (quaid, 02:03:58)
    4. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE (quaid, 02:12:41)
    5. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE (quaid, 02:12:46)
    6. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE (mchua_, 02:12:47)
    7. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Special:UncategorizedPages (quaid, 02:14:50)
    8. http://www.stcsig.org/usability/newsletter/0908-Friction.htm - Usability Interface to documentation. (kinchew, 02:18:43)
    9. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal (quaid, 02:19:48)
    10. http://docs.fedoraproject.org (quaid, 02:43:48)
    11. http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-docs-tasks.html (quaid, 02:46:00)
    12. http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f11.html is a good website for personal installation of Fedora 11. (kinchew, 02:52:43)

  5. Activity: become a release notes writer (mchua_, 03:02:58)
    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (quaid, 03:03:44)
    2. http://fedorahosted.org/publican (quaid, 03:06:56)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Quaid/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (quaid, 03:20:06)
    4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mchua/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (mchua_, 03:20:43)
    5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mchua/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (quaid, 03:20:49)
    6. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&action=history (quaid, 03:27:40)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&action=history (quaid, 03:27:48)
    8. http://blog.melchua.com/2009/11/11/how-to-become-a-release-notes-editor/ (mchua_, 03:31:15)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quaid/Documentation_Desktop_Beat&action=edit (quaid, 03:33:00)
    10. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (quaid, 03:33:20)
    11. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&action=edit (quaid, 03:33:55)
    12. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&action=edit (quaid, 03:35:43)
    13. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Editing (quaid, 03:37:22)
    14. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Editing#Marking_Technical_Terms (quaid, 03:37:37)
    15. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure (quaid, 03:38:06)
    16. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list (quaid, 03:39:04)
    17. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mchua/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (mchua_, 03:42:53)
    18. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mchua/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (harish, 03:53:25)
    19. https://fedorahosted.org/release-notes/browser/en-US/Desktop.xml (quaid, 03:54:05)
    20. https://fedorahosted.org/release-notes/browser/en-US/Desktop.xml (quaid, 03:54:09)
    21. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Harishpillay/Documentation_Desktop_Beat (harish-laptop, 03:54:48)
    22. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_in_Fedora_for_Desktop_Users.html (quaid, 03:55:04)
    23. https://fedorahosted.org/release-notes/browser (quaid, 03:58:44)
    24. https://fedorahosted.org/release-notes/log/en-US (quaid, 03:59:50)
    25. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJXyeIS-eIU (mchua_, 04:08:28)
    26. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting (mchua_, 04:34:19)

  6. lunchtime (mchua_, 04:35:27)
    1. Istanbul is a tool we should teach right away at the next POSSE - it's incredibly useful for people learning new things to be able to document what they're learning that way. (mchua_, 04:39:36)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Mclasen (mchua_, 04:43:28)
    3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese (mchua_, 04:45:12)
    4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cheese (mchua_, 04:45:53)
    5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cheese (mchua_, 04:45:54)
    6. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cheese#What_about_paneer.3F (mchua_, 04:46:12)
    7. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091111094923390 (harish-laptop, 05:35:21)
    8. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091111094923390 (jaricsng, 05:42:20)

  7. A tour of projects (mchua_, 05:48:50)
    1. https://ccrma.stanford.edu (mchua_, 05:49:46)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AOS (mchua_, 05:49:50)
    3. http://www.gumstix.com/ (mchua_, 05:51:04)
    4. http://beagleboard.org/ (mchua_, 05:51:45)
    5. http://www.arduino.cc/ (mchua_, 05:51:51)
    6. http://www.instructables.com/ (mchua_, 05:52:46)
    7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_Linux (mchua_, 05:53:24)
    8. http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php (mchua_, 05:53:42)
    9. http://www.ladyada.net/library/equipt/ (mchua_, 05:53:47)
    10. http://www.ladyada.net/learn/avr/ (mchua_, 05:53:51)
    11. http://www.ladyada.net/make/x0xb0x/resc.html (mchua_, 05:53:56)
    12. there are linux thin clients (mchua_, 06:06:30)
    13. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux (mchua_, 06:06:36)
    14. http://www.ltsp.org/ (pohyee-cheong_, 06:13:53)
    15. cpe802.pbwiki.com (jaricsng, 06:37:09)
    16. http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=chat (mchua_, 07:01:59)
    17. http://user.ccw.com.cn/ucHome/space.php?uid=158602 (raeLLL, 07:06:37)
    18. ACTION: mchua get fedora infra folks on list to make a "how to deploy zodbot" tutorial (mchua__, 07:09:28)
    19. https://fedorahosted.org/lingobot/ (mchua__, 07:11:00)
    20. ACTION: mchua do the same for lingobot (mchua__, 07:11:59)
    21. http://www.r-project.org/ (mchua__, 07:18:15)
    22. http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/ (mchua__, 07:19:21)
    23. http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ (mchua__, 07:19:56)
    24. http://www.scilab.org/ (mchua__, 07:20:13)
    25. http://www.scipy.org/ (mchua__, 07:21:23)
    26. http://www.osalt.com/ (mchua__, 07:22:22)
    27. http://numpy.scipy.org/ (mchua__, 07:23:13)
    28. http://www.dspguru.com (kinchew, 07:26:50)
    29. http://www.vimeo.com/1093745 (mchua__, 07:28:48)
    30. http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/codeswarm/ (mchua__, 07:28:55)
    31. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_control (mchua__, 07:36:14)
    32. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revision_control_software (mchua__, 07:36:28)
    33. http://mercurial.selenic.com/ (mchua__, 07:36:58)
    34. http://bazaar-vcs.org/en/ (mchua__, 07:37:38)
    35. http://subversion.tigris.org/ (mchua__, 07:38:23)
    36. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_Versions_System (mchua__, 07:38:56)
    37. http://gcc.gnu.org/ (mchua__, 07:40:10)
    38. http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html (mchua__, 07:43:02)
    39. http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~isg/res/unix/make/ (mchua__, 07:43:05)
    40. http://singhkunal.com/website/techstuff/tutorials/GNUMakeTutorial.htm (mchua__, 07:43:13)
    41. http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Simple-Makefile (mchua__, 07:43:19)
    42. http://www.gnu.org/software/make/ (mchua__, 07:44:20)
    43. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/UsingKoji (mchua__, 07:47:56)
    44. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji (mchua__, 07:48:17)
    45. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi_Guide (mchua__, 07:54:40)
    46. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi_Guide (mchua__, 07:56:07)
    47. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Build_automation (mchua__, 07:57:29)
    48. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_build_system (mchua__, 07:57:52)
    49. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ (mchua__, 07:58:20)
    50. http://javatools.wordpress.com/2007/02/23/hudson-a-continuous-build-system/ (mchua__, 07:59:18)
    51. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinderbox_%28software%29 (mchua__, 08:05:06)
    52. ACTION: mchua to get fedora QA folks to send links and tips to cool test tools and docs and etc. ( spevack, are you listening? ;) (mchua__, 08:05:27)
    53. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA (mchua__, 08:05:38)
    54. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_testing (mchua__, 08:08:18)
    55. ACTION: mchua see if there's a 'hello' (debian package) equivalent for RPMs/Fedora - if not, create (mchua__, 08:15:21)
    56. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers (mchua__, 08:15:42)
    57. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package (mchua__, 08:16:27)
    58. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/BuildingPackagesGuide (mchua__, 08:16:31)
    59. I'm going in order from most beginner-friendly to most comprehensive (mchua__, 08:16:45)
    60. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines (mchua__, 08:16:52)
    61. also Fedora Classroom transcripts are usually good resources (mchua__, 08:17:11)
    62. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom (mchua__, 08:17:12)
    63. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_RPM_packages_%2820090405%29 (mchua__, 08:19:28)
    64. that last link is how I learned packaging - I highly recommend going through cwickert's transcript if you're interested in learning that. (mchua__, 08:20:27)

  8. Getting everyone on Planet (mchua_, 08:26:31)
    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_Fedora_Planet (mchua__, 08:29:32)
    2. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ (mchua__, 08:32:58)
    3. irc://irc.freenode.net/#link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ (jaricsng, 08:41:04)
    4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_Fedora_Planet (mchua__, 09:10:29)
    5. http://www.sububi.org/2009/07/27/the-busy-students-guide-to-project-blogging/ (mchua__, 09:22:29)
    6. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Blogs (mchua__, 09:22:53)


Meeting ended at 09:24:00 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. mchua get fedora infra folks on list to make a "how to deploy zodbot" tutorial
  2. mchua do the same for lingobot
  3. mchua to get fedora QA folks to send links and tips to cool test tools and docs and etc. ( spevack, are you listening? ;)
  4. mchua see if there's a 'hello' (debian package) equivalent for RPMs/Fedora - if not, create


Action items, by person

  1. mchua
    1. mchua get fedora infra folks on list to make a "how to deploy zodbot" tutorial
    2. mchua do the same for lingobot
    3. mchua to get fedora QA folks to send links and tips to cool test tools and docs and etc. ( spevack, are you listening? ;)
    4. mchua see if there's a 'hello' (debian package) equivalent for RPMs/Fedora - if not, create
  2. zodbot
    1. mchua get fedora infra folks on list to make a "how to deploy zodbot" tutorial


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  3. kinchew (144)
  4. mchua__ (106)
  5. harish (83)
  6. zodbot (48)
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  8. jaricsng (41)
  9. tira (38)
  10. kevix (27)
  11. YeLong (21)
  12. harish-laptop (10)
  13. pohyee-cheong (10)
  14. ianweller (8)
  15. martz927 (7)
  16. raeLLL (5)
  17. xinyi (4)
  18. rchiun (4)
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  20. Kaio (3)
  21. pohyee-cheong_ (3)
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