15:00:48 <chandankumar> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-09-14 15:00:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 15:00:48 2016 UTC. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:48 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:48 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2016-09-14' 15:00:48 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 15:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:49 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:50 <apevec> yes 15:00:51 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2016_09_14' 15:00:57 <chandankumar> #topic roll call 15:00:59 <chandankumar> \o/ 15:01:09 <apevec> bot clash! 15:01:12 <jpena> o/ 15:01:20 <amoralej> o/ 15:01:21 <dmsimard> \o 15:01:26 <hrybacki> o/ 15:01:28 <DrBacchus> o/ 15:01:36 <flepied> o/ 15:01:37 <number80> damn, I'm not an op currently 15:01:50 <chandankumar> #chair apevec jpena amoralej dmsimard DrBacchus flepied hrybacki number80 15:01:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena number80 15:01:57 <trown> o/ 15:02:02 <chandankumar> #chair trown 15:02:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena number80 trown 15:02:35 <chandankumar> jruzicka: meeting time 15:02:39 <jruzicka> o/ 15:02:54 <misc> nan mais ça reshi 15:03:01 <chandankumar> #chair jruzicka 15:03:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena jruzicka number80 trown 15:03:07 <misc> argh 15:03:08 <misc> hi 15:03:12 <jrist> o/ 15:03:18 <chandankumar> #chair jrist 15:03:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena jrist jruzicka number80 trown 15:03:26 <chandankumar> so starting with first topic 15:03:37 <chandankumar> #topic Infrastructure concerns 15:03:44 <chandankumar> Duck: please go ahead. 15:04:00 <Duck> quack 15:04:02 <chandankumar> #chair Duck 15:04:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena jrist jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:06 <coolsvap> o/ 15:04:13 <chandankumar> #chair coolsvap 15:04:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena jrist jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:51 <jschlueter> o/ 15:04:56 <chandankumar> #chair jschlueter 15:04:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena jrist jruzicka jschlueter number80 trown 15:05:49 <chandankumar> Duck has some infrastructure concerns for for seperate mailing lists and dedicated meeting. 15:06:30 <rdogerrit> Merged openstack/UcsSdk-distgit: Use pypi.io for Source0 URL http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2284 15:06:43 <Duck> well, more generally, on how to help on the infra 15:06:54 <apevec> [infra] tag on rdo-list would not be good enough? 15:06:59 <Duck> and having a proper channel to discuss would be nice 15:07:14 <Duck> apevec: it is not used, as I know of 15:07:15 <apevec> let's keep all on #rdo 15:07:28 <dmsimard> I think this was brought up before, I think it's appropriate to use rdo-list (with [infra] tag perhaps) and it's fine to keep discussions in #rdo as far as I'm concerned. Don't be shy :) 15:07:31 <apevec> yeah, let's start using it to help easier filtering 15:07:44 <Duck> when the certificate expiration happened, twice, there was nothing on the ML 15:07:59 <apevec> there sensu checks 15:08:11 <Duck> I'm fine with it but it does NOT work 15:08:12 <apevec> you mean would should send email alerts from those? 15:08:19 <dmsimard> Duck: there actually was an email on the ML :) 15:08:25 <Duck> also this meeting never has any infra topics 15:08:36 <dmsimard> https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2016-August/msg00237.html 15:08:41 <Duck> which would mean everything is perfect but… I tend to not believe it 15:08:44 <apevec> we have one today about CBS outage :) 15:08:52 <DrBacchus> It didn't use the specified tag. 15:09:10 <Duck> dmsimard: without the tag => filtered out 15:09:17 <dmsimard> Duck: the meeting tends to be regarding topics of discussions, not updates on the status of the infrastructure 15:09:22 <Duck> so there is de facto no mail to wrn 15:09:23 <DrBacchus> The difficulty being that Duck and misc are responsible for infra across many projects, and are unlikely to see these messages unless they are appropriately flagged. 15:09:27 <apevec> shall we document list of "official" tags ? 15:09:52 <dmsimard> apevec: it's hard to enforce, even on openstack-dev there are untagged emails :) 15:10:06 <apevec> yeah, but we can try 15:10:08 <misc> the concern is also that infrastructure is all over the place 15:10:19 <misc> and we didn't followed up on the rdo-infra plan :/ 15:10:40 <dmsimard> misc: did you mention you were coming to Barcelona ? 15:10:54 <dmsimard> It could be a great opportunity to have work sessions 15:10:54 <misc> dmsimard: yep 15:11:01 <misc> dmsimard: and yep 15:11:12 <DrBacchus> While it's understood that people will spin up stuff as needed, we want to ensure that those services are supported long-term, and that requires access, documentation, and automation. 15:11:15 <Duck> so with rbowen we began to list the resources, where they are, and who is responsible for 15:11:18 <misc> but I think duck and I have different concerns :) 15:11:27 <apevec> if folks arrive early on Monday, let's plan rdo infra meetup then? 15:11:31 <Duck> would be nice to ensure it is complete 15:11:43 <Duck> and there is no SPOF 15:11:46 <dmsimard> Duck, DrBacchus: I believe jpena has an inventory somewhere 15:11:50 <DrBacchus> That doc is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1cpTHMixEiaqHA-qR-ol2uO76USYna08WrTvUJPCxHSI/edit#gid=0 15:11:51 <dmsimard> of the hosts 15:11:52 <Duck> and a todolist of things so we could pick some 15:11:55 <Duck> etc etc 15:11:57 <DrBacchus> Oh, ok, well, we should merge those things, then. 15:12:03 <dmsimard> DrBacchus: that document isn't public 15:12:33 <DrBacchus> Yeah, at the moment it's invite-only but I can move that to somewhere public. 15:12:43 <dmsimard> DrBacchus: It's ok I'll request access 15:12:51 <DrBacchus> There's also https://www.rdoproject.org/infra/ which is probably not up to date either. 15:12:55 <misc> another concern is also that we have no idea on who do what :) 15:13:24 <apevec> let's document that all in a single doc 15:13:25 <dmsimard> misc: it's a fair assumption that jpena and I are responsable/accountable for most of the infrastructure 15:13:30 <Duck> so there's a few things OSAS is involved into, like web stuff 15:13:44 <Duck> the goal is to have more things public and more people involved too 15:13:59 <Duck> so no take over, no blocking people, etc 15:14:14 <rdogerrit> hguemar created openstack/neutron-lib-distgit: Sync requirements http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2292 15:14:59 <apevec> ok, problem statement is clear, let's get actions 15:15:21 <rdogerrit> hguemar created openstack/neutron-lib-distgit: Create rpm-mitaka branch http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2293 15:15:22 <chandankumar> feel free to add actions against yourself. :-) 15:15:27 <DrBacchus> So, action items are 1) update https://www.rdoproject.org/infra/ with all the services, and who is responsible for each 15:15:39 <dmsimard> apevec: I'm +1 for a work session on monday in BCN 15:15:51 <number80> +1 15:16:00 <trown> #chair rbowen 15:16:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied hrybacki jpena jrist jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen trown 15:16:06 <dmsimard> It should be productive and put us all on the same page 15:16:07 <rbowen> That seems a reasonable place to start, as that is the biggest hole at the moment, it seems? 15:16:12 <Duck> BCN? 15:16:17 <rbowen> barcelona 15:16:18 <misc> barcelona 15:16:18 <number80> Barcelona IATA code 15:16:22 <Duck> ho 15:16:34 <misc> (cause RH use IATA code for whatever historical reason) 15:16:34 <Duck> so misc you'll be my representative then 15:16:39 <chandankumar> rbowen: will i add that action item to you? 15:16:44 <jpena> +1 to work session, but I'm arriving to BCN around 11am 15:16:47 <flepied> we meet at the airport ? ;-) 15:16:51 <Duck> misc: with all my concerns too 15:17:05 <misc> Duck: sure 15:17:06 <rbowen> chandankumar: Sure, I can add the info that I have. Also need jpena to crosscheck and update. 15:17:07 <dmsimard> rbowen, Duck, misc: Are we comfortable with starting with that ? BCN is in a month. 15:17:10 <number80> flepied: just redhatter internal slang :) 15:17:14 <misc> dmsimard: I am ok 15:17:39 <rbowen> #action rbowen to update https://www.rdoproject.org/infra/ with services and responsibilities, then hand off to jpena for crosscheck. 15:17:46 <apevec> we can work on documents in the meantime 15:18:13 <jpena> rbowen: ack 15:18:13 <chandankumar> next topic? 15:18:16 <Duck> dmsimard: well, probably better to have some live to work better. May be able to join via Blue Jeans. 15:18:21 <imcsk8> o/ 15:18:26 <Duck> yes, let's clarify the doc 15:18:28 <chandankumar> #chair imcsk8 15:18:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied hrybacki imcsk8 jpena jrist jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen trown 15:18:34 <dmsimard> Duck: yeah sure, we can have a hangouts or bluejeans 15:19:04 <Duck> dmsimard: could you do an invitation when exact timing is determined? 15:19:06 <dmsimard> #action Schedule a work session for RDO Infrastructure sometime, somewhere monday afternoon 15:19:06 <misc> dmsimard: we likely need to go to the office, no ? 15:19:16 <misc> cause I do not trust network to work :) 15:19:19 <dmsimard> misc: ah, there is an office in bcn? We could do it there 15:19:27 <dmsimard> how far is it from the conference center ? 15:19:29 <jpena> dmsimard: yep, there's an office 15:19:40 <amoralej> a brand new one :) 15:19:42 <Duck> misc: you need to see, battlle with, and drink with people live 15:19:43 <dmsimard> #undo 15:19:43 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by dmsimard at 15:19:06 : Schedule a work session for RDO Infrastructure sometime, somewhere monday afternoon 15:19:45 <number80> misc: ack for office, but we need to take care of unbadged people who wants to join us 15:19:50 <rbowen> There may also be space/time at the event venue. I need to check with Jmadriaga on that. Unless we prefer the office. 15:20:00 <dmsimard> #action Schedule a work session for RDO Infrastructure sometime at the BCN Red Hat office 15:20:07 <apevec> rbowen, I'd prefer conf 15:20:13 <dmsimard> bah 15:20:14 <misc> dmsimard: not too far 15:20:16 <number80> rbowen: that'd be fantastic if we get space at conference site 15:20:20 <dmsimard> #undo 15:20:20 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by dmsimard at 15:20:00 : Schedule a work session for RDO Infrastructure sometime at the BCN Red Hat office 15:20:32 <rbowen> ok, I'll ask and see what there is. Should be easier Monday than actually during the event. 15:20:32 <dmsimard> #action Schedule a work session for RDO Infrastructure somewhere monday afternoon 15:20:44 <apevec> 3rd time is a charm 15:21:08 <apevec> move on? 15:21:15 <chandankumar> #topic phase out rpm-xxx branches 15:21:24 <chandankumar> number80: you? 15:22:12 <apevec> rpm-RELEASE to be precise 15:22:14 <Duck> rbowen: thanks 15:22:15 <apevec> rpm-master stays :) 15:22:39 <number80> yes 15:22:57 <apevec> related card is https://trello.com/c/URAtrhLU/86-automate-stable-packages-releases 15:23:06 <number80> as soon as I'll finish branching newton, I'll submit a review to drop rpm-RELEASE branches 15:23:11 <apevec> we're starting this with Newton 15:23:17 <number80> Yes 15:23:24 <number80> no rpm-newton 15:23:37 <jpena> are we removing rpm-mitaka and earlier? 15:23:43 <apevec> ideally yes 15:23:49 <apevec> do you see issues with migration? 15:23:59 <number80> jpena: it will need testing to avoid storming DLRN 15:24:03 <number80> apevec: ^ 15:24:09 <number80> hash are differents 15:24:15 <jpena> that requires DLRN/puppet-dlrn support, just need to know in advance to update DLRN workers and fix any errors 15:24:41 <number80> actually if keeping rpm-mitaka is preferred, that's an option 15:24:43 <jpena> we have a bit of backlog 15:24:45 <apevec> number80, can't avoid that, we'll have to let full rebuild 15:25:12 <apevec> but yeah if we don't have DLRN resource to process that quickly better leave mitaka 15:25:19 <number80> #info do not merge any rdoinfo review removing rpm-RELEASE branches before checking w/ jpena 15:25:30 <number80> please :) 15:25:51 <rdogerrit> trown created rdoinfo: Add DIB and python-tripleoclient to tripleo UC exceptions http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2294 15:25:52 <jpena> number80: my plan is to update DLRN/puppet-dlrn on the instance when we create the Ocata workers 15:26:07 <jpena> that's next Friday or Monday next week 15:26:14 <jpena> (I guess) 15:26:21 <number80> jpena: ack, I'll submit review and will let you merge it 15:26:21 <apevec> yes, RC1 is branching point 15:26:45 <number80> yeah newton branching status 15:26:51 <number80> clients are all done 15:26:53 <apevec> #link https://trello.com/c/zT4BghsV/366-branching-newton-rdo 15:27:18 <number80> services are starting today, I identified few ones that could be done in // by someone else ^ 15:27:28 <number80> (I'll add more later) 15:27:29 <amoralej> i'd like to help on that 15:27:36 <number80> \o/ 15:27:37 <apevec> yes, me and amoralej will join 15:27:48 <amoralej> but i'll need some additional permissions in review.r.o 15:28:01 <apevec> just need to split the checklist among us 15:28:09 <apevec> amoralej, I'll look at that after meeting 15:28:21 <amoralej> ok apevec, let's sync after the meeting 15:28:27 <apevec> #action apevec to check branching permissions for amoralej 15:28:43 <number80> as for mitaka, I'm checking that in parallel of newton branching 15:29:12 <number80> so as follow-up, I have some fedora bundled updates to do + mass-tagging 15:29:25 <number80> mass-tagging will happen after running weirdo generic jobs 15:29:37 <imcsk8> apevec, amoralej i would like to help with branchin too 15:29:59 <apevec> imcsk8, ack - let's first see how initial split goes 15:30:12 <apevec> we might have so other followup tasks besides branching 15:30:19 <number80> yes 15:30:43 <Duck> number80: btw, I live in Mitaka :-) 15:30:52 <Duck> number80: Mitaka-shi 15:30:54 <imcsk8> apevec: ok, i'll be standing by 15:30:55 <apevec> #info number80 is checking Mitaka in parallel of newton branching 15:31:06 <chandankumar> next topic? 15:31:10 <number80> yes 15:31:16 <chandankumar> #topic python-shade packaging 15:31:30 <rdogerrit> Merged openstack/glance_store-distgit: Use tarballs.o.o for Source0 URL http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2277 15:31:54 <chandankumar> I think it goes under release independet repo rdo-tools 15:32:07 <apevec> yes, it was proposed to put it in EPEL 15:32:24 <apevec> but I sugget to develop it first in new rdo-tools (coming soon) repo 15:32:44 <apevec> which was discussed on rdo-list and one of the previous meetings 15:32:51 <chandankumar> apevec: yes, 15:33:05 <chandankumar> up to what time new rdo-tools repo is coming? 15:33:08 <number80> apevec: can you take care of repo creation w/ CentOS? 15:33:13 <number80> chandankumar: asap 15:33:17 <apevec> it's lower prio due to newton wrapup 15:33:25 <apevec> but I'll start the process w/ tags in CBS 15:33:38 <apevec> #action apevec to request CBS tags for rdo-tools repo 15:33:58 <apevec> related, I've already requested Ocata CBS tags 15:34:20 <apevec> so we'll start with ocata-testing for deps on Trunk master 15:34:24 <apevec> jpena, ^ FYI 15:34:38 <jpena> apevec: ack, the puppet-dlrn update for that is already updated 15:34:59 <chandankumar> Anything more on this, if not then next topic? 15:35:07 <apevec> next 15:35:14 <chandankumar> #topic [Ci-users] [Infra] - Major outage for several services 15:35:22 <number80> thank 15:35:24 <chandankumar> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/ci-users/2016-September/000392.html 15:35:29 * Arrfab is here 15:35:31 <chandankumar> please read it 15:35:41 <chandankumar> Arrfab: dmsimard please go ahead 15:35:44 <apevec> so D-Day is Monday Oct 10 15:36:03 <apevec> plan is to have Newton GA repo pushed before that 15:36:14 <chandankumar> #chair Arrfab 15:36:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: Arrfab DrBacchus Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied hrybacki imcsk8 jpena jrist jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen trown 15:36:16 <dmsimard> What about cycle-trailing ? 15:36:17 <apevec> Arrfab, just to confirm buildlogs.c.o and mirror.c.o are not affected ? 15:36:40 <chandankumar> Outage for: CBS, ci.centos.org, internal DLRN build server 15:36:40 <apevec> dmsimard, trown is optimistic 3o will be ready Oct 6 15:36:43 <Arrfab> apevec: they aren't 15:36:59 <trown> EmilienM: is ^ totally off base? 15:37:02 <dmsimard> that is quite optimistic :) 15:37:18 <dmsimard> considering puppet-openstack typically doesn't release the same day as GA 15:37:22 <Arrfab> apevec: so last chance to see pkgs landing on either buildlogs or mirror.centos.or is monday 10th in the morning (CET time) 15:37:27 <apevec> remember that number80's goal from Austin meetup is to release RDO minutes after upstream announcement :) 15:37:39 <apevec> Arrfab, ack 15:37:56 <Arrfab> dmsimard: true that you mentioned some "sub-components" that will probalby only appear in the days after GA 15:37:57 <EmilienM> dmsimard: we do 15:38:03 <Arrfab> dmsimard: nothing new about this ? 15:38:11 <EmilienM> we released Mitaka on GA and will release newton on GA 15:38:12 <jschlueter> ack on not available Oct 10 15:38:17 <dmsimard> EmilienM: you do ? I guess I'm thinking of something else 15:38:18 <EmilienM> only TripleO might slip a bit 15:38:24 <jpena> I understand the internal DLRN build server is affected? 15:38:27 <dmsimard> jpena: yes 15:38:28 <EmilienM> we have max 2 weeks to release final 15:38:43 <jpena> so no builds during these 2 days unless we have a fallback 15:38:49 <dmsimard> jpena: it doesn't last two days 15:39:01 <dmsimard> jpena: We're looking at an optimistic 8 hours of downtime on the 10th 15:39:02 <number80> Yeah, I like M-I style goals :D 15:39:13 <trown> dmsimard: I thought it was 48 15:39:21 <dmsimard> trown: you probably read 4-8 15:39:25 <dmsimard> right quaid ^ ? 15:39:30 <Arrfab> dmsimard: I wouldn't count on such a small downtime though (even if we want to minimize that) 15:39:41 <jpena> The mail says "the announced downtime will be probably ~48h." 15:39:43 <apevec> it's 48h 15:39:57 <Arrfab> trown: correct : that's the downtime announced by RH IT to move and power back the racks 15:40:04 <dmsimard> Arrfab: hrm, I think I saw quaid mention 4-8 hours. Must have misread that :( 15:40:21 <jpena> so, should we kick a temp build server just in case we have an emergency for centos-newton? 15:40:37 <dmsimard> jpena: either that or expedite the nodepool setup 15:41:10 <Arrfab> jpena: if that's critical for you/rdo, wondering if we want to postpone the migration (but all the RH people will be angry about this, again) 15:41:19 <apevec> dmsimard, jpena yeah, good opportunity to move to new arch :) 15:41:33 <apevec> Arrfab, no, let do it 15:41:37 <jpena> Arrfab, no need to postpone 15:41:43 <apevec> there's never good time 15:41:55 <apevec> Ocata is already starting 15:42:01 <Arrfab> ok, as said, we'll work hard with all the involved people to get cbs.centos.org back online as first service 15:42:01 <dmsimard> jpena: I think if we make the nodepool idea a priority it's realistic to have it live before oct 10th, I don't believe there is a lot of work involved -- most of the pre-reqs are already in place ? 15:42:02 <apevec> CD is 24x7x365 15:42:15 <Arrfab> and CI being the second one (in parallel) 15:42:34 <apevec> Arrfab, ack for that prio list 15:42:36 <rdogerrit> trown proposed rdoinfo: Add DIB to tripleo UC exceptions http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2294 15:42:49 <Arrfab> dmsimard: just curious : what's that "nodepool" thing ? 15:43:08 <dmsimard> Arrfab: we want to decentralize the package building to help us scale and build things faster 15:43:32 <quaid> dmsimard: I was saying what I'd wanted not what we had, sorry for the confusion 15:43:35 <jpena> dmsimard: my only concern is where we can start with it (and how we can connect the nodepool instances with the "central" DLRN server), but yes, let's go for it 15:43:50 <dmsimard> Arrfab: as we package more and more projects, and there are more and more commits (and we package every commit), one single build server is no longer enough 15:43:56 <Arrfab> dmsimard: oh, ok, but so those other pkgs will never appear on the centos infra either ... 15:44:15 <dmsimard> Arrfab: nodepool is what we use in review.rdoproject.org to dispatch builds onto ephemeral VMs (same thing as upstream openstack-infra) 15:44:45 <Arrfab> dmsimard: so a kind of "pre-build" before submitting a pkg to cbs.centos.org ? 15:44:49 <apevec> Arrfab, those are Trunk rpms which we push to http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/rdo-trunk-master-tested/ 15:45:03 <apevec> it's build on each upstream commit 15:45:14 <apevec> push to buildlogs is after passing CI 15:45:28 <Arrfab> apevec: yeah, but that I mean is that if you built on something else (external builders), that will not appear on buildlogs either 15:45:41 <Arrfab> apevec: *ack* 15:45:52 <apevec> that's a challenge that jpena and dmsimard are solving 15:46:23 <chandankumar> action items here? 15:46:32 <Arrfab> jpena, dmsimard : let's discuss that when you have a minute 15:46:50 <dmsimard> #action dmsimard and jpena to start working towards moving dlrn package building to review.rdoproject.org (nodepool) on post-commit upstream pipeline 15:46:57 <Arrfab> from my side, I so consider that we keep the announced date for HW migration 15:47:06 <jpena> yes 15:47:31 <chandankumar> next topic? 15:47:32 <jpena> worst case, if the package building is not ready when we're close to the deadline, we can spawn a temp builder 15:48:12 <apevec> yes, have a planB 15:48:28 <Arrfab> jpena: well, as said, up2you, but don't expect those pkgs to land on centos infra then (as long as everybody is aware, that's fine) 15:48:58 <jpena> Arrfab: understood. After the DLRN instance is back, we can just copy stuff back to it 15:50:30 <apevec> let's move on, we have few more topic 15:50:35 <chandankumar> #topic exceptions for upper-constraints based repo for tripleo gated projects 15:50:40 <chandankumar> trown: please go ahead 15:50:41 <trown> this is mine 15:50:53 <apevec> please do not use master-head ! 15:50:54 <trown> this is pretty much resolved in the etherpad 15:51:12 <trown> I did not realize there was a list of exceptions for tripleo to upper-constraints 15:51:14 <apevec> we just need a list which projects should be unpinned 15:51:17 <trown> put up a patch to add DIB http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2294 15:51:22 <trown> EOL 15:51:32 <chandankumar> trown: so fast! 15:51:32 <apevec> cool, +2 15:51:52 <chandankumar> moving to next item if no action item? 15:51:58 <trown> yep 15:52:12 <chandankumar> #topic What should we improve for test days? 15:52:17 <chandankumar> rbowen: please go ahead 15:52:35 <chandankumar> some suggestions from etherpad: 15:52:37 <rbowen> Well, I didn't create this topic, but, yeah, it's something that we need to do better. 15:52:46 <rbowen> There are some good suggestions in there. 15:52:49 <chandankumar> * Test setup matrix cleanup 15:53:00 <chandankumar> * More detailed, beginner-friendly instructions for testing. (Test day as product preview for potential users.) 15:53:08 <rbowen> I would like test day to bringing potential new users to us, and be a way for people to see what's coming in the future. 15:53:09 <apevec> color says it was flepied 15:53:11 <chandankumar> * ask other teams to provide use cases they want to validate 15:53:18 <rbowen> That's hard at the moment, because the instructions assume you already know a lot. 15:53:27 <chandankumar> * only on single etherpad with instructions and registering people to use cases 15:53:28 <flepied> yes it was me as a feedback from doing the last ones 15:53:36 <rbowen> This is perhaps something that pkovar and the other docs folks can help with? Or QE? 15:53:50 <imcsk8> chandankumar: +1 for registering people 15:53:51 <rbowen> I think people show up, but they're not sure how to get started. 15:54:01 <trown> we also kind of need new folks to take on these actions, as just getting stuff testable consumes much of existing pre-testday effort 15:54:03 <imcsk8> would test scripts help? 15:54:15 <rbowen> Test scripts could be a useful thing, sure. 15:54:24 <chandankumar> imcsk8: +1 for different test setup 15:54:41 <rbowen> trown: Yeah, folks spend most of test day just standing it up, and then we're out of time. 15:54:54 <chandankumar> what about including tempest run on each of the setup? 15:55:47 <imcsk8> i think test days are more about user experience 15:56:30 <chandankumar> Any action items from here? 15:56:34 <flepied> imcsk8: agreed. we should target to reproduce what a typical user will experiment when installing RDO 15:56:40 <imcsk8> there could be more promotion for test days amond the community 15:56:56 * chandankumar reminds we have 4 mins left. 15:57:06 <rbowen> Perhaps we can take this back to the mailing list, then. 15:57:11 <chandankumar> rbowen: +1 15:57:16 <amoralej> but then, it'd be useful to let users provide real use cases instead of follow some of them provided by us 15:57:16 <apevec> +1 15:57:18 <imcsk8> +1 15:57:18 <rbowen> We have a lot of actions, but unclear who will actually do them.' 15:57:20 <rdogerrit> hguemar proposed openstack/neutron-distgit: Add %upstream_version fallback macros http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2291 15:57:21 <rdogerrit> hguemar created openstack/neutron-distgit: Sync requirements http://review.rdoproject.org/r/2295 15:57:40 <chandankumar> rbowen: will you do that? 15:57:45 <rbowen> Yes, I will. 15:57:57 <rbowen> #action rbowen to raise topic of improving test day experience on rdo-list 15:58:05 <chandankumar> #topic Announcements 15:58:20 <chandankumar> #info Demos/Q&A at RDO booth at OpenStack Summit Barcelona - signup at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-barcelona-summit-booth 15:58:34 <chandankumar> #info We are planning an RDO Community Meetup, in conjunction with the Ceph community, at OpenStack Summit. Tuesday night, October 25th, 5pm-8pm. Agenda is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-barcelona-meetup-schedule 15:58:45 <chandankumar> #info Newton RC1 test day September 22, 23 - Details coming soon to https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/ 15:59:16 <chandankumar> #info New tempest rpms are available now here https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-master/consistent/ Feel free to try out 15:59:37 <chandankumar> #info openstack-sahara-tests is available in RDO now https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:add-sahara-tests 15:59:51 <chandankumar> #topic chair for next meeting 16:00:01 <imcsk8> i can do it 16:00:01 <chandankumar> Anyone up for that? 16:00:13 <chandankumar> #action imcsk8 will chair for next meeting 16:00:19 <chandankumar> #topic open floor 16:00:41 <amoralej> question about promotion job in CI 16:00:44 <chandankumar> apevec: please have a look on python-heat-tests-tempest package https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1980/ 16:01:07 <amoralej> scheduling is now every 12 hours instead of 4 hours 16:01:18 <chandankumar> i have tested it, works fine. 16:01:20 <trown> amoralej: only for stable pipelines 16:01:33 <amoralej> it's 12 hours for master now 16:01:33 * chandankumar reminds we are in last minute. 16:01:39 <amoralej> if i checked it right 16:02:01 <flepied> could we put it back to 4 hours? 16:02:14 <amoralej> yeah, please 16:02:20 <trown> amoralej: hmm you are right... not sure when that changed... it should definitely be 4 16:02:34 <chandankumar> amoralej: will i end the meeting, we are running out of time? 16:02:45 <amoralej> ok, thanks trown 16:02:46 <trown> chandankumar: ya go for it, we can discuss after if needed 16:02:50 <chandankumar> #endmeeting