<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:11
!startmeeting Infrastructure (2026-08-20)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:13
Meeting started at 2026-08-20 15:00:11 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:13
The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2026-08-20)'
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:23
!meetingname infrastructure
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:23
!chair @nirik:matrix.scrye.com @zlopez:fedora.im @jnsamyak:matrix.org @james:fedora.im @gwmngilfen:fedora.im @patrikp:matrix.org
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:23
!info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:23
!info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cle/
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:23
!info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:23
!topic Hola y bienvenido
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:24
The Meeting Name is now infrastructure
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:34
Welcome everyone
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:00:36
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:00:37
Michal KoneΔnΓ½: Michal Konecny (zlopez)
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:00:54
hello
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:01:09
morning
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:01:42
How it is going?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:03:09
!hi
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:03:51
all good. i was recently added to the fi-apprentice group... thank kevin for adding me
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:04:14
hope to learn more and contribute
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:04:38
hmm zodbot isn't talking to me apparently
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:05:14
I hope he doesn't hold any grudge against you
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:06:00
i think he gave up
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:06:16
a bit early to tell. ;)
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:06:30
sniff the logs ig
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:07:04
Let's go to first topic
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:07:12
!topic New folks introductions
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:07:12
!info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves.
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:07:12
!info Join Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/join_guide/
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:07:17
Anybody new around?
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:07:41
@sheikhlimon:matrix.org I think
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:07:56
I honestly just kinda lurk around meeting rooms to see what is going on
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:08:20
nothing wrong with that, it's why we do stuff in public :)
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:09:11
Ive been here for some time.. actually.. nice to meet you
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:09:20
ah
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:09:21
mb
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:10:10
It doesn't seem that there is anyone, so let me skip to next topic
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:10:23
!topic Next chair
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:10:23
!info Magic eight ball says:
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:10:23
!info chair 2026-08-20 - Michal
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:10:23
!info chair 2026-08-27 - ????
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:10:40
We have a comfortable chair and looking for people who want to sit in it
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:11:36
I could probibly take it... haven't done it in a while...
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:12:34
I don't see anybody else raising hand, so it's yours
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:12:52
!info chair 2026-08-27 - nirik
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:13:30
Anybody else for 2026-09-03?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:14:02
i can do that, it's probably my turn
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:14:04
I just realized how little of vacation I have left.
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:14:37
!info chair 2026-09-03 - gwmngilfen
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:15:00
The summer is slipping away. ;)
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:15:10
schools already went back here :)
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:15:10
I think that is enough for now
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:15:14
so is time to study
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:15:14
Let's move on
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:15:17
!topic Announcements
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:15:17
!info CLE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1900 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:15:26
Anything else to announce?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:15:36
!info pagure.io will move to read only later today
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:15:52
!info mass update/reboot/reinstall outage later today starting at 20UTC
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:15:52
special celebration when?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:15:54
π
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:16:07
i think if you do 3, there is an animation on element
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:16:12
πππ
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:16:14
yup
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:17:32
!info Some people having authentication issue on accounts.fedoraproject.org, if you do, see https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/13482
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:18:01
we really need to try and engage ipa folks about that... see if they have any ideas.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:18:51
!info Fedora 45 beta freeze starts next tuesday
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:19:07
Oh, it's so close O.O
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:19:10
does that mean development for F45 is paused?
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:19:17
or blocker review time?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:19:55
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#beta-to-final-freeze
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:20:11
I agree, I'm not sure why this is only happening for accounts.fedoraproject.org and IPA web UI
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:20:12
yes, blocker reviews will start up
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:20:54
yeah, it's strange. Also the weird caching in the ipa web ui... possibly related? possibly not?
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:21:36
Anything else to announce?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:21:54
it does only seem to affect folks who have an otp enrolled...
<@niknikovsky:fedora.im>
15:23:13
OTP cache?
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:23:40
first login goes through. i noticed when entering wrong otp by mistake can trigger it actually. also quickly logging in and logging out
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:23:46
I saw some threads failing for otpd
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:24:04
But that didn't seem related
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:24:15
yeah, it's a puzzler.
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:24:59
if i investigate noggin would i be finding something?(hopping there where login stuff happens now)
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:25:07
if i investigate noggin would i be finding something?(hoping there where login stuff happens now)
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:25:10
Let's move on to monitoring
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:25:16
!topic Monitoring discussion [nirik / gwmngilfen]
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:25:16
!info https://zabbix.fedoraproject.org (top 100 triggers: https://zabbix.fedoraproject.org/zabbix.php?action=toptriggers.list)
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:25:16
!info Go over existing items and fix them.
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:25:39
so firstly I realised this week that we rarely look at the stg zabbix. we probably should at some point ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:25:55
It seems to affect noggin and also the ipa web ui, so it seems to be something in ipa... the lower layer.
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:26:55
staying on prod for now though, i don't see anything too crazy in the top 100
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:27:09
plenty of stuff related to the reboot cycles, and the usual scraper-based alerts
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:27:38
We had issue with badges consumer yesterday, but it's dealt with now
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:27:39
scrapers have really been mitigated by those ua blocks. It's lovely for however long it lasts.
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:28:38
ryanlerch++
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:29:12
so yeah, there will be more noise from the updates/reboots later today, but then hopefully it looks better next week
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:29:37
i *think* i fixed the ipa01 free-ids check with a new keytab
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:29:42
oh, do we want to bump up those openqa worker alerts... they were really busy, but fine...
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:29:52
hmm, yeah, we can do that
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:30:01
high memory I think it was?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:30:21
right
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:30:44
looks like its set to 90, we could bump it to 95
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:30:51
looks like its set to 90%, we could bump it to 95%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:31:02
seems to peak around 92
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:31:12
sounds good.
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:31:24
Sheikh Limon: do you want to send a PR for that? since you want to do more zabbix :P
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:31:36
it should be a oneliner, but I can point you to where to look
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:31:37
Oh, vmhost-p09-copr03 seems pretty haunted. I guess thats not monitoring really tho...
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:31:47
yeah i can do that
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:31:48
zabbix thinks it's dead
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:31:58
but i guess it didn't come back because of the disk?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:32:22
it is currently. I rebooted it, it didn't come back. I rebooted it again and got re-installed. then it didn't come back from the reinstall.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:33:02
Β―\\\_(γ)\_/Β― not sure what to do with it. ;(
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:33:07
get the macro name from the trigger, add it here: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/ansible/src/branch/main/inventory/group_vars/openqa_workers#L31-L33
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:33:21
sounds like my experience with the power9
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:33:31
on it
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:33:53
Yeah, I'll poke at it some more as time permits I guess.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:34:14
anyhow, I don't see much else monitoring wise. Oh wait...
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:34:50
is there a reason why the el9/10 test hosts are out?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:35:07
i can go poke them if not, just spotted it
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:35:38
I rebooted them, but they should have been back...
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:35:51
OK. also i wanted to ask you want to do with the new NFS disk space alerts. I assume we want a higher threshold?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:36:27
I was gonna show a graph of the download servers... switching them to BBR really helped them pump out more bits. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:36:41
possibly yes.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:37:27
https://zabbix.fedoraproject.org/history.php?action=batchgraph&itemids%5B67769%5D=67769&itemids%5B67801%5D=67801&itemids%5B67819%5D=67819&itemids%5B67874%5D=67874&itemids%5B67906%5D=67906&itemids%5B70272%5D=70272&itemids%5B136105%5D=136105&graphtype=1
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:37:54
```
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:37:54
FS [/mnt/fedora_koji/koji/compose/ostree]: SSpace used: 97.6%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:37:54
FS [/mnt/fedora_koji/koji/ostree]: Space used: 97.6%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:37:54
FS [/mnt/fedora_koji]: Space used: 97.2%org Linux:
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:37:54
FS [/fedora_backups]: Space used: 97.3%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:37:54
```
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:13
```
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:13
FS [/mnt/fedora_koji/koji/compose/ostree]: SSpace used: 97.6%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:13
FS [/mnt/fedora_koji/koji/ostree]: Space used: 97.6%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:13
FS [/mnt/fedora_koji]: Space used: 97.2%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:13
FS [/fedora_backups]: Space used: 97.3%
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:13
```
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:38:35
Sheikh Limon: has offered to work on the time-until-full ticket, so this may be shortlived anyway
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:38:49
well... mostly I wanted them monitored for the graphing... the netapp autoresizes them automatically... so amount is not too useful.
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:39:03
oh, ok
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:39:05
I guess we could make it 98% since it resizes around then?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:39:20
or perhaps "less than 50Gb remians" or something like that
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:39:26
I need to cleanup backups. Thats on my todo
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:39:32
so we get a warning if the netapp does not do its things
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:39:36
so we get a warning if the netapp does not do its thing
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:39:37
yeah, that would work too, since it probibly wouldn't happen
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:39:41
yep
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:39:50
ok, let me make a ticket so i don't forget
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:40:08
thats probably a useful check for a lot of filesystems, but not all
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:40:12
do i do 95 or increase it?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:40:54
I'd suggest 98% or 'less than 50G'
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:41:36
less than X would be a new check
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:41:50
i've logged 13516 for that
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:42:13
the % is configurable per host/fs though so we can target the netapp and make it 98% for now
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:42:49
Sheikh Limon: if you're doing that too, you'll want an example of how to target an LLD macro ;)
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:43:35
https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/ansible/raw/branch/main/inventory/host_vars/pagure01.fedoraproject.org
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:43:38
last line
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:44:09
got it
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:44:20
ok, we do need to review stg zabbix at some point, but we're already at :45
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:45:42
oh, last point
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:45:51
If there isn't anything for open floor I think we can look at it now
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:45:59
I've enabled notifications from Zabbix to #forge-notifications:fedora.im so the forge team get their alerts
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:46:21
obviously we still get them too, but just fyi, they should be being proactive about that
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:46:28
ok, all done :)
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:47:14
So what now? We have 13 minutes
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:47:22
Open floor?
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:47:27
Backlog refinement?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:47:35
open floor sounds nice.
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:48:02
+1
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:48:09
!topic Open Floor
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:48:36
Oh, one thing I realized:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:48:53
!info next friday ( 2026-08-28 ) is a Red Hat recharge day
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:49:45
Anything we want to talk about here?
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:50:08
oh, already? yay
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:51:20
i don't have anything. i'm looking at how to flip pagure to the ro version ;)
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:51:36
That is being worked on
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:52:19
I'm reinstalling vmhost-p09-copr03 again just for fun.
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:54:59
I finished the ticket where we lost the release-monitoring.org updates when the bugzilla API token expired
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:55:15
And I also finished the quay.io preparation for flatpaks π
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:55:39
kevin gave a cookie to zlopez. They now have 140 cookies, 9 of which were obtained in the Fedora 44 release cycle
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
15:55:40
awesome
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:55:48
oh, it'll talk to YOU
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:56:18
but still not to me. weird
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:57:12
So I didn't get one cookie from Gwmngilfen π
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:57:22
ok one done.. hope i did it right
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:57:25
maybe I'm out of cookies :)
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:58:07
looks ok
<@gwmngilfen:fedora.im>
15:58:15
shall we wrap up?
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
15:58:21
The quay.io switch will probably happen during F45 preparation as there will be mass rebuild of flatpaks for F45
<@sheikhlimon:matrix.org>
15:58:31
linter failed but i ran lint
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
16:00:15
And we are at the end of time
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
16:00:23
!info Thank you all for coming!
<@zlopez:fedora.im>
16:00:23
!endmeeting