<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:00:49
!startmeeting Quality
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:50
Meeting started at 2026-07-06 15:00:49 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:50
The Meeting name is 'Quality'
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:00:52
!topic Roll Call
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:01:02
hi folks, who's around for qa fun?
<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>
15:01:50
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:01:51
Christopher Boni: Christopher Boni (boniboyblue)
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:02:02
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:02:03
Derek Enz: Derek Enz (derekenz)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:02:21
hi hi, how's everyone doing?
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:02:35
Ok thx you?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:02:42
not too bad thanks
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:03:51
other then cold i am okay
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:04:02
my thighs are still killing me from saturday :P
<@kashyapc:fedora.im>
15:05:46
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:05:47
kashyapc: Kashyap Chamarthy (kashyapc)
<@jlinton:fedora.im>
15:06:27
.hi
<@jlinton:fedora.im>
15:06:35
!hi
<@jlinton:fedora.im>
15:06:35
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:06:54
alrighty, let's get rolling
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:06:59
!topic Previous meeting follow-up
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:07:40
!info "someone to [send out the F45 call for test days](https://forge.fedoraproject.org/quality/tickets/issues/908)" - this was done by Christopher Boni, thank you!
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:07:48
any other followup?
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:08:52
There was a kernel test week
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:09:44
guess that will be under 4.
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:10:22
yeah
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:10:28
alrighty, moving on
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:11:35
!topic Fedora 45 status
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:12:25
i'm not aware of anything particularly earth-shattering. there's still a bit of fallout from the kmscon switch - console initial-setup is broken: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2484542
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:13:12
anything else anyone wants to note?
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:13:44
Nothing earth-shattering
<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>
15:14:28
Nothing as of yet but gnome 51 alpha should be in rawhide any day now so expect a few things to crop up in the coming weeks.
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:14:59
ooh, good note
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:15:12
!info console initial-setup is [still broken](https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2484542) by kmscon
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:15:28
!info GNOME 51 Alpha is expected imminently so that may cause some fallout (thanks Christopher Boni)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:17:54
!topic Fedora 45 Change review
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:18:27
so we're past the system-wide change proposal deadline now, so this felt like a good time to take another look at the [change list](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/45/ChangeSet)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:19:51
that has the approved changes, there are also proposed changes at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAnnounced
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:20:25
there's several fairly significant ones there
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:21:16
!info looking over [accepted](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/45/ChangeSet) and [proposed](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAnnounced) changes we note several with potentially significant impacts
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:21:35
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisableVendorChangeByDefault could cause unexpected behavior in package installers
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:22:12
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF45 and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ShadowStack could cause all kinds of low-level build/functionality issues
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:23:25
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BashColorPrompt_1.0 could have unexpected interactions with other prompt stuff
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:24:02
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StratisAnacondaSupport requires yet more storage testing (sigh) in the installer(s)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:27:49
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/oo7_Secrets_Service_Provider could cause issues with secret storage in KDE and/or GNOME
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:28:27
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeBootISO is a substantial change in how a release-blocking image is built
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:28:50
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/45/ChangeSet#RPM_6.1 could obviously affect just about anything
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:29:24
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpenSSL40 could break lots of things; it has landed already, though, which is good
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:30:36
that's a lot of stuff...
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:30:40
any others folks want to flag up?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:36:56
guess that's it!
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:37:07
!topic Test Day / community event status
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:37:54
Kernel test week for 7.1 went good was a bit hard to test and build kernels for jforbes due to: https://lwn.net/Articles/1081015/ however i would assume
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:38:09
but guess 7.1.3 will roll out after the Podman/criu fixes are tested and fixed?
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
15:38:55
I use git and not the kernel.org archives, so I wasn't impacted
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:39:03
oh alright
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:39:11
we need karma on the f43 criu update - https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2026-d989c4b7e8
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:39:15
the f44 one is on its way stable
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:39:15
TIL
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:39:26
once those two are stable, yeah, we can re-test the kernel updates and hopefully they'll pass
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:40:07
!info [kernel 7.1 test week](https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/testday/22) went ahead with solid participation
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:40:13
thanks to everyone who helped out
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
15:41:10
Indeed!
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:41:39
doesn't look like we have anything else upcoming
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:41:41
let's check the ticket tracker
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:41:58
no proposals there either
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:42:09
we may want to consider setting up test days for some of the things on the change list, though...
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:43:04
maybe wait till the folks handling test days these days are around
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:43:19
!info no other test days planned ATM, we may consider setting up test days for some of the major F45 Changes at future meetings
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:44:35
guess its vacation time soon too
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:45:13
!topic Open floor
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:45:16
any other business, folks?
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:45:30
Nothing here for now
<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>
15:47:25
We now have our own group over a Fedora Discussions. If you are so inclined you can now set a flair so your profile pictures gets wee bug in the corner.
<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>
15:47:46
We now have our own group over at Fedora Discussions. If you are so inclined you can now set a flair so your profile pictures gets wee bug in the corner.
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:48:48
someone had added me already :P
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:49:32
thanks for that Christopher Boni!
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:49:43
activated my bug in the settings now
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:50:20
!info there is now a [quality group](https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/g/qa) on discourse - you can add yourself to it and get flair so folks know you're part of the quality team
<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>
15:50:46
Yeah - it syncs with FAS.
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:51:39
Nice
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:51:40
hmm
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:52:18
!info correction: there is now a quality group on discourse - members of the FAS quality group are automatically added to it, and in your profile you can add the 'qa' flair so a bug logo appears on your profile icon
<@bittin_:mozilla.org>
15:52:41
thx for the bug
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:52:43
i'm happy to see we have successfully imported the quality/qa naming confusion into this new system, excellent job everyone
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:53:08
Guess I need to add myself
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:56:42
alrighty, anything else?
<@derekenz:fedora.im>
15:57:12
Not from me
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:58:00
thanks for coming, everyone
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:58:38
!endmeeting