fedora-server
LOGS
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:26
!startmeeting fedora-server
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:27
Meeting started at 2026-04-15 17:00:26 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:27
The Meeting name is 'fedora-server '
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:30
!topic Roll Call
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:00:40
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:00:41
John Himpel: John Himpel (jwhimpel)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:43
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:43
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:43
As usual, let's wait a moment for everybody to show up.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:43
I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:43
Welcome to our weekly Server WG meeting.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:43
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:00:59
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:00
Emmanuel Seyman: Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:01:04
We had to cancel last week, so it will be the same agenda for now.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:05:15
Welcome John, Welcome Emmanuel. Obviously, today, we are once again a small, exclusive circle.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:05:44
With Nirik lurking as usual, let's start.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:05:55
!topic Agenda
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:04
!info Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:11
!info F44 release testing
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:21
!info Status of our various Ansible projects
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:30
!info Author a "Beginners Guide to Fedora Server"
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:39
!info Walk through longterm open issues and PRs
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:48
!info Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:05
Anything to add? to remove?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:07:28
I'm good
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:30
OK, none.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:40
!topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:54
meetings overview:
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:54
Regarding the action, see the list in our
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:54
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2026/
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:08:51
Regarding announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:09:40
There is or was some discussion to cancel the release party this time due to lack of ressources.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:30
I don't know the latest status. But it it takes place. I would try to talk a bit about our home server project.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:50
And maybe, I would need some support for this.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:11:13
Anything else?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:11:38
OK, none, let's go on
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:11:49
!topic 2. F44 release testing
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:12:01
Tracking issue: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/server/tickets/issues/186
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:12:33
Since today we have a new release candidate 1.2
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:12:55
I could update the links in our ticket until now.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:49
And there are still some serious issues. Let's see how the go/no-go meeting tomorrow will go.
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:14:00
Did we submit anything for F44 that would be considered a release blocker for server?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:14:56
No, we didn't find any issue so far, beyond the minor ones with aarch64 image.
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:15:05
Thx
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:15:56
The rc doesn't have the prerelease warning. So we can now start to update the screenshots in our documentation.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:17:02
So, can we organize, who is doing what? Important are the articles in Installation and in Adding Virtualization.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:18:42
I feel I've missed a beat. What are these articles?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:19:33
The articles in [Installation](https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:20:12
e.g. [Fedora Server interactive local installation](https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/interactive-local/)
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:20:31
Ah, the documentation pages
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:20:35
There are some outdated screenshots and download links.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:21:20
I can commit to Installation for next week
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:22:24
Scheduled for eye surgery on Friday. Find out this afternoon if second knee replacement surgery will be required soon. So I'm not going to be of much help for a while.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:12
Emmanuel Seyman: To all articles? The "Interactive remote installation" may need some more love.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:24:03
John Himpel: Good luck for those. I had some eye surgeries in December / Januar and have strill some problems.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:24:30
I can certaingly give it a shot
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:24:52
If somebody can document the steps necessary to update the docs for a given release, I will try to take on this task for future releases.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:24:52
I can certainly give it a shot
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:12
Emmanuel Seyman: OK, so I start with the Virtualization section.
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:25:44
The steps will probably need to be fairly fine-grained if sent to me.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:33
John Himpel: Good idea!We should create a guide in our Contribution section! Fine grained is not a issue. Per article it are mostly just 2-3 screnshots.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:26:56
I agree, very good idea
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:27:06
hi!
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:27:12
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:27:18
Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs): Jocelyn Gould (korora) - she / her / hers
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:27:27
So we don't have to check every article every time!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:27:56
Welcome Joccelyn!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:28:55
Regarding the testing of rc 1.2: I can do the iso media. Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs) can you check the VM again?
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:29:10
Yes, I can do that.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:30:06
And Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs) Could you join the go/no-go meeting tommorw for us, too?
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:30:20
I was planning on that as well.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:31:54
Wonderful! I is F44 Final Go/No-Go Meeting on 2026-04-16 from 18:00:00 to 20:00:00 UTC from my calendar
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:32:08
I have it at 1400 EDT on mine
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:33:44
Well, 18:00 UTC is hopefully 1400 EDT, my calendar says so,
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:34:16
Regarding how the meeting works: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:35:07
I suppose, that's it for release testing?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:35:34
!topic 3. Status of our various Ansible projects
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:35:41
No tracking issue
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:36:18
I'm a bit at a loss here. We're not really making any headway.
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:37:27
I have a standard "setup" document and diagram that I need to "tweak" than figure out how to upload it to the proper repository
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:37:48
That is for ansible projects in general.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:38:27
That would be fine for me. Hopefully we get than an idea how to proceed and that to do.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:39:11
We have something like 3 or 4 open projects and at least 2 more in the queue.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:40:54
Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs): you wanted to have a look at Ansible NFS. Do you think you could together wirh John prepare a plan for the next 1/2 year?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:41:12
I really have no time to spend on this issue...
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:41:35
Even updating my ansible rpms is on my todo list
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:41:53
I hope to be able to see the computer screen and walk to my computer room in about a month. Until then, I will probably be offline or using my ipad for matrix lurking.
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:41:54
I should be able to. I would love ot learn more ansibile in general
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:42:54
And we intend to divide up the chairmanship for the various topics. John and Jocelyn, do you think you could take the chair for this topic at the next meeting?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:43:05
It would be a test, how it might work.
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:43:06
Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs): I will try to get you some pointers tomorrow. Would you have an email address or should I just post the links on the server meeting room?
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:43:24
korora@fedoraproject.org works
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:44:05
Given my habit of being pulled away for the meetings of late, I don't kow that me chairing would be a good idea...
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:45:02
My availability depends greatly on what the surgeon says this afternoon and if/when he schedules me for major surgery. So I (may/may not) be able to chair. Do I have permissions to start the meeting?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:45:04
Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs): this topic will not be the first!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:46:24
John Himpel: yes, you can start the meeting as well. I think we will have to discuss the standard 1 topic, then release testing then Ansible.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:47:01
And just in case you get a surgery date, we have to be flexible and adjust to it.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:47:41
proposed !agreed John and Jocelyn take over the chair for an Ansible topic next meeting
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:20
And Emmanuel Seyman the same is true for me.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:35
I see no objection, so
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:46
!agreed John and Jocelyn take over the chair for an Ansible topic next meeting
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:49:23
My understanding is that there are no premissions required and that anyone can act as the chiar
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:49:44
This is true. There is no chair anymore
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:09
!topic 4. Author a "Beginners Guide to Fedora Server"
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:21
Tracking ticket: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/server/tickets/issues/190
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:35
With the current movement and campaign away from Microsoft and Big Tech we can expect
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:35
non-intimidating introduction.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:35
Linux and Fedora Server is a completely new business, and they need a comprehensive,
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:35
A growing interest in Linux and hopefully also in Fedora Server. But for many of them,
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:43
That is it's objective.
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:51:29
I was planning on starting to author this, but I have had other famiilial obligations come up. (which has pulled me away from a lot of stuff that I want to be doing)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:53:33
There are already one or two authors. But they are not member of our WG und not necessarily familar with Server. But they are good at authoring. So I cooperation would be good. And the will not start in the near future. They are currently working on a general Fedora or Desktop beginners guide.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:54:13
Or more precisely: they need one of us cooperating.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:55:16
Jocelyn (she/her) (Server WG: Docs): is this something for you?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:57:08
OK, undecided for the time being. Lets move forward, but skipping the issue list because we are nearlyat the end of our time slot.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:57:20
!topic 6. Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:57:40
The floor is open!
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
18:00:12
!bye
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:26
I see nobody coming up with something. Se let's close, even on time today, without running over
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:36
bye!
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:00:42
bye, folks. See you next week!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:54
!endmeeting