Meeting started at 2026-03-25 15:00:21 UTC

The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'

morning folks

!hi

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

!hi

Pawel Zmarzly (pawo2500) - he / him / his

!hi

Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

!hi

Gabriele Mambrini (gmambro) - he / him / his

I'm on my phone until I can restart my work laptop

Software update 😅

let's get started

anyone has followups from the last meeting?

oh right we cleaned up the membership

so that's done now

Yeah, 21 people were removed, 3 repos deleted, 2 archived

which means that now the ping is sane

!hi

Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his

I think we should still ping regardless, in the future. Nag people enough and they will beg to be removed 😅

we can start doing that now

salimma has already given cookies to pawo2500 during the F43 timeframe

now that the list is reasonable, it's fine to start doing that

we also will have a falloff model to drop people too

Yeah but that's my point, maybe it's always fine anyway

ehhh, it wasn't fine before because the bot would purge the message for too many people tagged

Ahh

tagging 35 people is too much

anything else for followups?

I've shifted targeting to 6.19 kernel for the next rebase

I can't remember if mine is a follow-up or announcement so I might just do it later

haven't had time because of all the other things

/me opening meetlog on his other phone

but hopefully once the last of the craziness leading up to the F44 final freeze next Tuesday is done, I can get to it

Oh I mentioned my AI tools last time already. No update yet but it seems to work fine

So now I am reminded I need to package fedrq profiles for HS

hyperscale eln is on pause until we figure out what to do about the kernel stuff

I've been asked to create a hyperscale config profile in ARK as a proposal to upstream into CKI, so I will attempt this (again) as part of the 6.19 rebase

I am not optimistic about that effort leading anywhere in ARK right now, but it's probably worth doing it anyway

at the very least, it could be useful for AlmaLinux (who is considering building our kernel for their users)

yeah, we should not prioritize it, it's been a wild goose chase in the past

indeed and I have the receipts from the last couple of times

let's move to

we're due for reporting this month

so I have a related topic re: that for open floor later

oh right. should we prepare a draft somewhere?

and we missed a bunch so we should try to actually get it done this time :)

last time we used cryptpad iirc

yeah it's still drafted there I think

if I wasn't poisoned at FOSDEM we probably would have finished it then

Neal needs to travel in a bubble

hey I was fine at SCaLE :)

it looks like we probably have the draft in hackmd

did you try the mystery meat at FOSDEM or something

yeah if there's nothing sensitive hackmd is fine

their lack of privacy is unnerving

or rather, "open core privacy"

the sandwich we had that day

which was admittedly after having a weak stomach from the past couple days from the first day issues

next up

don't think we have anything here

https://gitlab.com/groups/CentOS/Hyperscale/-/work_items

we have a bunch of package updates for packages I now track, I'll deal with some of them

sigh, the UI and URL changed?

also I guess we have something for the membership section

there are two - there's work items and there's issue board

the issue board by default is silly as it also shows closed items, so... eh

do we need to do any of these? selinux I think we discussed and the answer is 'yes but most people don't care'

dracut, Conan Kudo?

I'll do ethtool

yes

we pretty much need dracut, selinux-policy, and systemd moving in lockstep

they are now effectively lifecycled together

ok so package latest dracut from Fedora

yeah

wait - is Fedora new enough? should we track Rawhide or just stable

rawhide

because our systemd can be newer than Fedora (it's not right now)

and we need to bug fedora dracut maintainers to keep up too

ok, noted. I'll update my list. for selinux policy I guess rawhide too

systemd and dracut need to probably follow upstream

since dracut fixes/release land to go with new systemd releases

yeah but I'd rather not diverge from rawhide, so getting fedora to follow is probably good

since dracut fixes/releases land to go with new systemd releases

should you not be a dracut maintainer in Fedora Conan Kudo - that would simplify things

oh man it really would

but uhh, redhat-plumbers owns dracut in fedora with a source-git thingy

anyway let's move on to members first since I think we have someone here

and we can circle back in open floor

oh god it's a source-git thing :(

https://github.com/redhat-plumbers/dracut-fedora

we're considering in upstream dracut to move to quarterly releases

we'll see if that happens, that will probably make source-git a major drag on things

they're already behind as it is

https://gitlab.com/CentOS/Hyperscale/tracker/-/work_items/152 we have one membership request

LICIA (eseiker): would you like to introduce yourself?

Hello, I'm Licia, I'm currently interested in hardware enablements and I was experienting about updating HS kernels but it seems Neal would keep handle it ;)

hello!

welcome!

I'm sure Neal could use help, he kept trying to onboard me to do ARK stuff :)

yeah

never let Neal being everywhere stop you from doing anything :)

I just need to get through the rework stuff I'm doing for the latest kernel

what's your use case LICIA (eseiker)? normal hardware, server or desktop, or Asahi?

i use some x86_64 laptops for workstation and personal servers for both x86_64 and aarch64 and asahi mac

well, I know that assistance with KDE Plasma in EPEL would also be desirable

Troy Dawson does the work there primarily, but more people helping would be great

Welcome Licia!

as for aarch64 work, we have a pile of weirdness that can use help sorting out, especially for HS Asahi

like the broken mesa 😅

are you interested in helping out in those areas as well?

yeah i'd appreciated to do so

then yeah, you'll probably want to be in #kde:fedoraproject.org and #centos-hyperscale:fedoraproject.org

but I'm cool with having you join :)

forgot to ask, are you a Fedora packager already Licia?

not necessary to do Hyperscale work but it'd help

i've experienced with some copr works but not Fedora packager now

but would be great if i become packager as well ;)

that's ok we can help sponsor you if needed down the road

so yeah. no objection from me :)

none from me either

No objection from me

no objections from me either

so logistics, who's going to process this, Conan Kudo?

first let's log it

I'll take care of the paperwork after this

I think that's all for membership this week

the topic has come up several times about enabling frame pointer in Hyperscale builds

should we... enable that, and officially support Alma Kitten?

we already enable frame pointers

oh I missed that

but officially supporting Kitten is new, and worth considering

yeah. we might be able to get more contributors that way too

Yes, there's a lot of energy in Alma that isn't _necessarily_ present in CentOS alone

and that means we can offload the problem of "we want Hyperscale in Alma stable" - if enough people like it maybe Alma folks can do periodic HS rebuilds for stable branches so we don't have to do it

plus we can piggyback off AlmaLinux Days to talk about Hyperscale work

I foresee that being mostly frozen in time except for critical fixes

yeah, which is fine

yeah. I'm happy to come to ALDs that are in Europe in the future, though the upcoming one was too short notice

(caveat, probably from next year, this year is messy with paperwork and stuff)

if we want to do this, we should bring up a Hyperscale SIG over there too so everything is all nicely linked

I don't see that being an actual issue, though

yeah

should we do a CFP?

you mean RFC?

I am happy to do it - provided it does not have to happen right now

but yes

ah RFC, yes

coffee has not kicked in yet

that's ok :D

but yes, it doesn't need to happen _right now_ but I think it'd be great to do that

as EL11 work ramps up, this is going to be kind of interesting

I'll let the usual suspects know in advance so this is not a surprise

I foresee Kitten 11 and Stream 11 happening basically at the same time

ok let's... not hog the time

anyone else since we're at the top of the hour?

nope

that's it for this week end

thanks everyone, and see you soon