<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:02:01
!startmeeting CentOS Hyperscale SIG
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:02:02
Meeting started at 2026-02-25 16:02:01 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:02:02
The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:02:14
!topic Roll call
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:03:04
a bit surprised there was nobody using this since fesco yesterday, I guess council was not meeting today?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:03:51
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:03:53
Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:03:59
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:04:02
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:04:08
Council is doing a video meeting right now
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:04:12
it's just finishing up now
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:04:33
Jef Spaleta has decided to restart the periodic video meetings that mattdm stopped doing a while back
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:04:42
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:04:44
Pawel Zmarzly (pawo2500) - he / him / his
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:05:29
Davide asked me to start the meeting, not sure if he's joining late or not joining
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:05:43
but we can wait until ... let's say 3 more minutes for roll call
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:06:32
sounds good
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:09:42
alright, let's start then
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:09:57
!topic Followups
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:11:26
just in case this is the last meeting summary https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting-2_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2026-02-11/centos-hyperscale-sig.2026-02-11-16.08.html
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:12:18
and I think Conan Kudohas some updates re: talking to different stakeholders about enabling btrfs in ARK?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:12:53
we did a bad job with the bang commands for that
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:13:16
yeah, no info or anything else :P
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:13:18
yeah, a bit
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:13:58
So the last Fedora ELN SIG meeting resulted in yselkowitz and I conversing on a path to upstreaming Hyperscale work into Fedora to enable Fedora ELN Hyperscale
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:14:35
so the action item for Davide Cavalca to file a Jira to talk to the RHEL kernel folks and ARK is now slightly more important 😅
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:15:17
There's now a parent ticket about Fedora ELN Hyperscale to track all work on that front
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:15:20
!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/446
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:16:10
so over the coming weeks, I'm going to start upstreaming our conditionals for CentOS Hyperscale spin components into Fedora
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:16:21
and also create an eln-hyperscale release package in Fedora too
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:16:36
this will be required for Anaconda stuff to work
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:16:44
oh... interesting.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:16:52
this will be built only for eln, not for rawhide, right?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:17:13
yeah
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:17:17
cc pzmarzlyin case you end up doing some ELN integration work
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:17:22
normal rawhide would already have most of what we do
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:17:57
the one discussion I noticed in that ELN meeting that's relevant to us is Yaakov asking what to do if different SIGs end up needing the same package not in core ELN
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:18:38
I'm not sure exactly how to deduplicate this safely but yet ensuring that, say, that eln-hyperscale release package you are working on will ensure we still have the common packages but not too much extra :)
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:19:39
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:19:40
Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:19:59
!info Neal discussed btrfs enablement with Yaakov in the ELN meeting
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:20:19
oh we summoned Davide :)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:20:59
let's give this topic a few mins extra in case people have follow-ups, then I guess we can discuss the membership cleanup, the other perennial follow-up :)
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:21:55
Sorry running late today
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:22:20
I'll get the ticket sorted out today
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:24:12
ok, that's it for kernel I guess. pzmarzlyany news on membership cleanup, iirc last time the script was not taking into account MR reviews?
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:25:32
correct. i changed the script a bit, now it scrapes much more data from gitlab
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:25:35
(https://inactivity-monitoring-8e4c02.gitlab.io/)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:26:09
huh we are allowed to have that subdomain?
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:26:23
hmm gitlab pages are enabled on gitlab.com/CentOS org
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:26:35
and i got this domain automatically for that repo
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:26:39
so i guess yes?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:26:51
ah interesting, I wonder if we can have 'hyperscale' show up as part of the domain
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:27:03
a bit surprising it ignores namespacing completely but maybe we can customize it
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:27:32
hmm i think maybe centos org admins can, but I don't see an option
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:27:39
we can always use CNAME if we wanted
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:27:52
oh, last time we had issues with people being added manually too, right? so no corresponding FAS
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:27:55
but i don't think we need a fancy domain for that?
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:27:58
its mostly for us
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:28:05
I think we can make a decision today about what to do in that situation.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:28:26
Proposal: if someone has no FAS linked we remove them first, they can get re-added later
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:28:29
yes, but that turned out not to be an issue in the end
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:28:45
my script was just pulling people through inheritance
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:28:49
yeah, I'm just worried people don't know what sort of inactivity monitor it is, the curret subdomain is a bit generic
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:29:13
so i changed it to first pull FAS, then try finding GitLab
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:29:19
so i changed it to first pull list from FAS, then try finding GitLab
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:29:31
whereas before I was using GitLab list and trying to get FAS users out of that
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:29:53
i can add a link to the repo? at the top of the page?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:30:17
I think once you click through it's obvious though, the page title says hyperscale
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:30:24
but yeah linking to the source is always good
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:30:34
we can consider adding this to the SIG docs too
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:30:57
I like how this also flags the repos that has had no activity, this will help cleaning up things we don't need anymore
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:30:59
now, we still have a problem if we have someone in FAS group but they have no GitLab account linked
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:31:08
but that's a good signal of inactivity tbh
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:31:21
I wonder if there's a way to identify archived repos, now that we're on gitlab, so once we archive a repo it does not show up again in the report
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:31:35
agreed
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:31:42
if you have context on these repos, wdyt about meeting in person and going through the list?
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:32:01
good idea
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:32:10
how do i use bot to add action items?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:32:29
!action Pawel will add a way to exclude archived repos from the list
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:32:41
(go back up to when the meeting starts, or you can ask the bot for help)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:32:43
!help
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:32:56
hmm the help command is not discoverable it seems :P
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:33:16
!action Pawel will add a link on top of activity report, and link to sig docs)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:33:18
!info Pawel's inactivity report is now live at https://inactivity-monitoring-8e4c02.gitlab.io/ - you need to be logged in to access
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:33:37
looking great, thanks
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:44
salimma gave a cookie to pawo2500. They now have 1 cookie, 1 of which was obtained in the Fedora 43 release cycle
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:33:52
first cookie!
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:34:13
(this is like our internal tool but you're rate limited to one per person per Fedora release cycle)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:34:38
!info we will follow up offline and start cleaning up inactive members
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:34:54
oh, that's quite slow grind
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:34:59
oh one more request - can we identify when someone joins the SIG?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:35:14
if you just joined and have no activity yet and get culled that's a bit rough :P
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:35:26
the script pulls the list from FAS group membership
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:35:35
ah, but yes, you will be red
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:35:46
hmm i will check if FAS exposes timestamps
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:35:47
yeah, I can see at least one person I know should be excluded for that reason
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:35:53
but most of the ones in red are safe to remove
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:36:07
ok... let me look at my cheatsheet to see what we need to discuss next
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:36:21
!action Pawel will try to allowlist recently-joined SIG members from inactivity bot
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:36:26
!topic Announcements
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:36:39
anyone has something to announce here?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:39:43
going once..
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:39:55
going twice..
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:40:27
I guess nothing much has happened, I know I'm mostly busy with the Fedora release cycle right now :P
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:41:02
oh
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:41:02
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:41:02
!info EL 10.2 is now branched, seems to only be trailing Fedora 44 branching by a couple of weeks
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:41:04
how is your AI-powered linter going?
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:41:09
how is your AI-powered linter for specfiles going?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:41:24
eh is that something I want to announce here :P
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:41:45
well, maybe lets first see if it can work :D
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:41:55
well, maybe lets first see if it can even work :D
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:42:19
and yeah, if it does then the audience is bigger than hyperscale anyways
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:42:27
something like Debian Janitor would be super awesome but that's probably not Hyperscale specific
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:42:28
right
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:42:33
so maybe i shouldn't have brought it here
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:42:53
eh, it's tangentially relevant and we don't have any real announcement :)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:43:01
!topic Tickets
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:43:12
remind me - did we move things to GitLab already?
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:43:18
Yep
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:43:36
should we delete pagure repos and see if anything breaks?
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:43:37
Though there's no way to mark the pagure stuff as archived
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:44:44
!link https://gitlab.com/CentOS/Hyperscale/tracker/-/issues
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:44:56
yeah, pagure not having archive status is a bit unfortunate
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:45:05
I guess we can update the README
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:45:24
I see some other pagure issue trackers that got around it by making sure the latest filed issue is the migration one
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:45:48
so we can do that, it's easier than ... oh yeah we don't have a README for the sig racker since that has no repo.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:46:10
iS SN# the old number from Pagure? what does SN stand for
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:46:52
i think it is ID from pagure? if not then its pagure-importer's internal ID, but that would be a bit useless
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:47:40
that does look like the issue ID
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:48:07
yeah looks correct to me
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:48:10
oh yeah spot checkign one issue, that's th pagure id
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:48:32
picking a random issue -- let's see : https://gitlab.com/CentOS/Hyperscale/tracker/-/issues/8
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:48:42
i just noticed that cross-issue references are broken
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:48:45
Conan Kudodo we even want to fix this? (erofs in EL missing zstd support)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:48:51
if so can't we just have our own erofs build
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:49:07
in our own kernel I mean
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:49:13
for example, https://gitlab.com/CentOS/Hyperscale/tracker/-/issues/115 says `#11` in it
<@pzmarzly:matrix.org>
16:49:34
and it should point to SN#11, but it points to GL#11. Ehhhh
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:49:41
yeah
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:49:46
that's to be expected I guess :(
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:50:00
oh well, one off pain
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:50:30
alright, if nobody has an actionable ticket let's move on to
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:50:31
!topic Membership
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:50:50
nobody is in the queue I guess, and we already noted action items for doing the cleanup
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:51:00
!topic Open Floor
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:51:21
'airing of grievances' :P
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:52:38
lol
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:53:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:53:23
oh wow there are updated versions
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:54:07
if there's nothing else, I guess those of us who want to / need to attend the FRCL meeting gets to have a few minutes' break
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:55:31
thanks all for coming and for the discussion and contributions!
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:55:34
!endmeeting