Meeting started at 2025-11-19 18:00:11 UTC

The Meeting name is 'fedora-server'

!hello

Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his

As usual, let's wait a moment for everybody to show up.

I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.

!hi

John Himpel (jwhimpel)

Hi John Himpel Hi Emmanuel Seyman We are obviously a little short-staffed today. But perhaps we should go through the agenda anyway.

Let's

As I see, nirik s lurkingf as usual

Fine by me

topic Agenda

Anything to add here?

Or remove?

OK then

Regarding the action, I'll include the list in our

meetings overview:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2025/

Announcements

We are discussing to use FOSDEM and ContOS Connect next year to initiating a meet-up about docmentation in CentOS and Fedora. And one specific topic might be Server related items, e.g. the new Web UI, our requirements therefor and aligning or coooperating with Server Docs.

Everything is still in flux.

Ah, I could be tempted to come a day or two early if that happens

Emmanuel Seyman: I very much hoped so !!!

I'll keep you informed and included in the discussion.

Any other announcement?

Sure

OK, lets go on

No tracking issue yet

Current public version:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/filesharing-nfs-installation/

https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/filesharing-nfs-installation/

Current stg version containing Jocelyn's proposals::

Unfortunately, Jocelyn (she/her) seems to be unable to attend today

Can we please just fix the problem with the adduser command?

Sure, yes.

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Jocelyn Gould (korora) - she / her / hers

I'm here, It's been a hectic week...

Welcome anyway :-)

I think, in any case we will merge the adduser command.

At the moment it might be best, I do that, because I may have the most or routine at the moment?

I have no objections

oK,so

What about the other modifications? i.e. Jocelyn (she/her) proposals

As I remember., you wanted to add some more changes??

I was looking through the doc again and there is a section in there for mounting the share on NFSv3 as a one off and via fstab.

I'll have to go back over my notes, I've spent more time in hospitals in the last week than I have at home. (My mother is in the CICU at the moemnt)

Oh, I see. That's urgent

OK, we take just the action at the moment and continue next week.

No tracking issue yet

Maybe, we could remove the "awaiting final review" note?

Or are some more modifications / additions needed?

No, removing the note seems fair

I think, especially interesting might be the Git Cheat Sheet. Any comments here?

Has someone tested some of the recipes?

Also a secondary forgeo Cheat Sheet (especially authentication and authorization)

A yes! that missing at the moment. It is specific to Fedora forge.

It is specifically important for the local authoring

I can try to modify that page at the beginning of next week. So hopefully someone can test it. And wasn't there a proposal by Paul Maconi (Aggraxis) ?

Anything else here?

OK, let' go on

Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): had a suggestion for the LLMNR item. So let's wait hoping he will be able to attend next week.

Let's look at some really old items:

Fedora Server goal(s) and "story" for F41 / F42 https://forge.fedoraproject.org/server/tickets/issues/134

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server

Contains various ideas for possible long term goals

Proposal: Transfer goals to project wiki page

And then close it.

I'm in favour of adding that to the "post-installation tasks" page

What can we add to the "post-installation tasks" page?

The LLMNR issue

Ahj, OK!

Yes, I'm in favour of that, too.

Do we have a text?

Or made Paul Maconi (Aggraxis) an proposal for that?

Has anyone objection to add this to the post install task list?

No objections.

Emmanuel Seyman: could you write down a text? And / or contact Paul about it?

yes

@agreed We add a LLMNR task to our post-install list.

OK, that old item finally done 👍️

Back to https://forge.fedoraproject.org/server/tickets/issues/134

We already have our own plan for the home server part.

Should we safe some other parts to our wiki potential project plans, or is this not worth it? And we just close it?

we can keep the list of ideas in the wiki and recycle it into documentation topics

I'm OK with this, too. any objections?

Sounds good to me

A more potentially severe ticket is:

https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/132

selinux issue when starting a postgres-server via systemd

I didn't notice any such issues so far.

setting selinux to permissive will get it to log an issue while still working

I don't really understand, what the user was trying to achieve.

same

OK, so lets add a comment to set to permissive and catch the SELinux error either from 'Cockpit or the audit file. If the original poster answers in 14 days, we will see how to resolve, otherwise close the ticket.

objections?

Hi sorry I'm having a day

LLMNR section already in post-install tasks.

I had one other quick doc edit task that I completed last week, too

oh, the 'how to set up git-credential-libsecret'

Peter Boy (ServerWG, Docs): Agree

Welcome Paul Maconi (Aggraxis) . Then was then my memory was correct

But just to #132

Back to LLMNR

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/postinstallation-tasks/#_disable_systemd_resolved_llmnr_andor_mdns

OK, So we can close the issue? Or any addition to the text?

Unless we really want to press the issue via a system-wide change

But I don't know that it's truly necessary.

I think we agreed not to initiate a system wide change. Server admins will have different requirements.

I can close the issue later on

Or you can if you're logged in

Paul, yes please close the ticket with a short comment.

Oh, our time is up. Let's have a short Open floor.

Sorry, got to leave now.

John Himpel: thanks for coming!

Anything for Open floor?

no

not me

I probably won't be around for next week's meeting

OK, so let's close for today.

Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): thanks for the info. I will keep that in mind for the agenda.