Meeting started at 2025-11-05 16:00:43 UTC

The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'

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Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

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Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

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Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his

Anton Tiurin (noxiouz)

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Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his

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James Reilly (jreilly1821) - he / him / his

seems like that's everyone

so let's get started with...

anyone got anything to follow up from last meeting?

did we finish onboarding James?

now that hopefully travel/DST/etc. shenanigans are mostly over

good question

Yep should be all set

excellent

I did notice that james hasn't signed the FPCA

james: can you take care of that in FAS?

you should find it here: https://accounts.fedoraproject.org/user/jreilly1821/settings/agreements/

anything else from anyone?

not for follow ups, I have some for later

okay, since nobody has anything, let's move onto...

I've got one...

blech

I am starting on this work today

anyone have any other announcements?

me

we can discuss in open floor later whether we should help upstream sort this package out, because it pulls in NM unnecessarily (and that's what we worked around by loosening some deps)

and one more

sweet

is there a website or something about it?

https://github.com/anakryiko/wprof

neato

it's been mostly used by kernel devs, I had to ask Andrii to write blurbs for about and desc to even put something in the package :)

I am sure he will blog about it soon

cool

ah blazesym is a rust-based library

oh hey it supports breakpad tracing

yeah, I packaged blazesym already, and blazesym_c, but they have been languishing since nobody uses it

that's pretty cool

I don't have anything else to bring up

anyone else have anything?

if not, let's move onto...

I don't think we have any new tickets here, so we can move on from this

so let's move onto...

I don't think there are any new membership requests, but...

we need to start pruning inactive members

it's nice being the biggest SIG, but being full of ghosts isn't great either...

Davide Cavalca: we might want to put this on the todo for our meetup at Connect

I think we just need to write up and announce a policy

And then execute it

yeah - I think I have a backlog task to write an activity script

We can discuss it at the meetup but I don't think this necessarily needs to be sorted out in person

but we should probably just start the policy write up in parallel

if we can get it done sooner, that'd be great

and if it turns out we'll be pruning too many people we can adjust

180 days of no interaction or something?

something like that indeed

yeah, I think 6 months is nice as it's one minor release

and I think we want to promote the actually useful members we retire to emeritus status, but for those that never do anything we can just drop them

sure

we'll need to discuss a way to represent that, but I don't see a problem with that

who wants to volunteer to wordsmith this :)

I can't, I'm swamped

This is a can of worms that's IMO not worth the trouble. Let's just have a cutoff and keep a record of former members in the docs.

yeah, true

okay, I think in the interest of ending on time, let's punt this for later

we do have the meetup in the evening if we want to discuss it then too

so let's move to...

anything anyone want to bring up?

how likely is it that we can get RH to fix kexec-tools' packaging? anyone knows the maintainers?

I filed PRs a while ago to not much success

On the Fedora side I mean

sigh

so probably not worth putting it in proposed updates and shame upstream then

pretty likely with the right sticks

since who has time for that

we can always ask folks like Troy Dawson for help

I do have decent success with packaging fixes, at least once they're in fedora

but also, I often just merge them in fedora if nobody responds for a while

yeah we probably should just go that route

or even, spite hat on, nonresponsive maintainer the persons

well we have that new stalled process thing

for clarity, no, I was not serious about that

yeah I think forcing the merge of the PR via that process is not the worst option

it's not urgent enough to abuse provenpackager privileges

but also we want this on the record so FESCo know some critical packages are not being fixed by their maintainers

one package that makes my head hurt is the iptables package

anyway, we have pathways to resolve these issues

we're kind of bad at using them though

I want to rip it out of my system knowing how bad it is

but looks like firewalld and ufw both require it too

a lot of these pathways require a lot of attention

which is good and bad, we don't want them to be easy to abuse

but bad because everyone is overworked

yeah

so we pile up tech debts instead

honestly in most cases I just use my provenpackager powers to fix bugged packages

if nobody responds after a bit, I just take care of it

it's less painful that way

and honestly quicker

yeah that might be the only way forward here that does not involve pulling teeth

if they don't care enough to respond in a week or two for PRs, they probably won't mind you fixing things

is there anything else we want to discuss?

we can get... 3 mins back :)

yup

a minute saved is a minute earned!