<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:11
!startmeeting fedora-server
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:13
Meeting started at 2025-10-15 17:00:11 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:13
The Meeting name is 'fedora-server '
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:13
!topic Roll Call
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:23
I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:23
As usual, let's wait a moment for everybody to show up.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:00:47
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:00:48
Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:00:57
Hello, Peter
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:01:16
Hi Emmanuel, yeah, back again!
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:01:49
I will be coming and going in front of the computer during the meeting.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:01:49
FTR, I am figuring out what to wear for a funeral tomorrow.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:03:11
OK, Truly a bad reason, but truly one that cannot be postponed.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:03:43
And a tricky problem nowadays.
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:05:28
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:30
Jocelyn Gould (korora) - she / her / hers
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:06:14
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:06:15
John Himpel (jwhimpel)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:22
Welcome Jocelyn! It is good that you found the time.
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:06:52
Today has been.... much better than last week
<@theprogram:fedora.im>
17:07:05
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:07:06
Mat H (theprogram)
<@copperi:fedora.im>
17:07:23
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:07:24
Jan Kuparinen (copperi)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:08:04
Welcome MatH ! not only interested in Docs 😀
<@theprogram:fedora.im>
17:08:41
I have too many hats :)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:09:48
Hm, Matrix tells my copperi is typing. Let's neverthless progress.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:09:58
!topic Agenda
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:13
!info Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:13
!info F43 release testing
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:13
!info Walk through longterm open issues and PRs
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:13
!info Improve the structure of our user documentation
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:13
!info Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:28
Any comments here?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:10:52
I'm good
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:57
OK
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:11:06
!topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:11:54
One topic: in 14 days there is end of Daylight saving in Europe and in 3 weeks in US
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:12:24
So we have one week where our local times differ.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:12:49
Last year it was always we European to cope with the change in daily routine.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:20
And I guess, it is easier for us, because in is out of working time for us Europeans.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:58
Should we proceed the same way this autumn?
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:14:24
+1
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:14:32
Emmanuel Seyman: ?? Vor me it's easy. For you?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:14:58
I can cope with the change
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:15:42
!agreed: we switch to winter time in sync with US again.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:16:21
zodbot: where are you?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:17:08
Well, no zodbot / meetbot today.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:17:22
Anything else here?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:17:47
!topic 2. F43 release testing
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:17:59
Tracking issue: !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/164
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:18:32
!info Later today rc1 should be available
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:18:48
go/nogo meeting tomorrow.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:19:39
Our SBC issuer is still not resolved, Minimal and Workstation the same.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:20:24
So maybe, we have to put our decision to drop any SBC server image for F43 may be happen.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:20:54
Any other news?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:22:04
Obviously none.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:22:51
At least we will be able to update the screenshots in our documentation. The rc doesn't carry the preview notice.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:50
Maybe we have a short discussion in our Matrix room on Friday, the same time as now? (17:00 UTC)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:02
I would change the order of topics and advance to the top 4
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:17
Because that's important when we update our docs.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:26
objections?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:42
OK.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:45
!topic 4. Improve the structure of our user documentation
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:02
proposal: https://hackmd.io/@pboy/BJnkUjA3el
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:26
Unfortunately, we had no discussion on Matrix last week.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:28:45
Short break to read ?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:29:08
Yes, please
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:29:32
OK. let me know if there are any access issues.
<@theprogram:fedora.im>
17:29:57
I signed in and have access
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:31:13
* Then we delete stg completely[...]
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:31:13
* In stg, we initially [...]
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:31:13
I'm not sure I understand the steps:
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:31:22
I feel like this proposal is good. It appears to follow the way that I understand git to be used
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:32:10
Emmanuel Seyman: the idea is to make a new stg strictly for those articles, we are discussing.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:32:38
So we kind odf recreate stg with new content.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:32:50
I'm not even sure we need stg even then, tbh
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:33:51
Yeah, we may have a good preview option in forgejo, soon. So, in the mean time stg may still a easy way to discuss.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:34:19
Later it may be superfluous
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:35:12
In the meantime, your proposal works for me
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:35:52
!agreed Server documentation will be modified according to proposal https://hackmd.io/@pboy/BJnkUjA3el
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:36:50
I think am most fluent with docs current git flow, so I will do the modification in the next days.
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:38:18
On a somewhat related topic, will the ansible stuff in the old repo be automatically moved to the new repo? Or will manual migration be required?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:39:05
The Ansible repo from pagure is already on forgejo without modifications, so far.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:40:18
Picking up this opportunity: when will we be ready to continue our work on Ansible NFS. If I remember, Emmanuel Seyman and John Himpel had to do some work and wanted to coordinate efforts.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:40:42
I did promise that...
<@jwhimpel:fedora.im>
17:41:27
So did I, but a new knee sort of become a higher priority.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:42:40
Yeah, of course. I just don't want to give the impression that we're forgetting about it.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:42:58
And, I already have the next “attack” up my sleeve. My text for standalone Samba is nearly complete.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:43:34
I have to do some discussion with abbra , but otherwise ....
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:44:36
OK, lets continue with the agenda
<@mowest:fedora.im>
17:44:45
Getting back to file servers sounds interesting I don't use Samba or NFS in my homelab, been happy with syncthing.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:44:58
!topic 3. Walk through longterm open issues and PRs
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:45:26
no Tracking issue
<@abbra:matrix.org>
17:45:36
I'm on vacation this week, trying to spend time with my family (school holidays) and traveling.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:46:28
abbra: Thanks for watching us nevertheless. I still need about 1 weekl to complete a first rough draft. And then no rush :-)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:47:05
And enjoy undisturbed family life!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:47:28
OK, how do we handle the pile of open issues?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:24
proposal: each of us picks up one open issue and proposes what to do with it - or does the required action.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:43
And next week we can discuss the progress we made.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:49:24
So, each enters themself as "assigned" to mark the picked up issues
<@mowest:fedora.im>
17:49:47
I'm assuming all these are on pagure?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:14
currently both on pagure and forge.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:29
We should use forge, i think.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:50:57
Most of them are in pagure, though
<@mowest:fedora.im>
17:51:19
Okay so we just focus on forge and consider pagure issues archived or something like that?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:51:44
Emmanuel Seyman: "them" relates to issues or members?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:51:56
them == issues
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:52:28
mowest: I think Peter had in mind that we would either close the issue or dupe it in forgejo (and then close it)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:52:37
OK, I copies all issues from pagure to forge, so both are in sync.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:53:31
As soon as docs has switched our docs to forge (I'm working on this, not that easy), I will close pagure.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:53:32
oh, then close all pagure tickets. What point is there in keeping them open ?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:53:42
oh, then close all pagure tickets. What point is there in keeping them open?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:53:54
there is no point,
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:54:05
exactly
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:55:26
I suppose, the forge team has a plan what to do with pagure and how to do. I think, we should follow Fedora procedure, if there is any. I'll ask over there.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:57:43
Anyway, I modify the README on pagure later today.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:23
proposed !agreed Each WG member selects an open issue on Forge and either makes a suggestion on what to do or deals with the issue themselves until next week meeting.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:37
objections?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:02
!agreed Each WG member selects an open issue on Forge and either makes a suggestion on what to do or deals with the issue themselves until next week meeting.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:59:07
works for me
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:59:18
Works for me
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:21
!action Each WG member selects an open issue on Forge and either makes a suggestion on what to do or deals with the issue themselves until next week meeting.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:33
Next top
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:42
!topic 5. Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:57
MatH: Happy to see you here. How can I persuade you to join us?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:02:42
Hm, obviously he is off. It's a great cooperation with him in Docs.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:03:13
OK, anything else here today?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:03:49
So I'll close now.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:03:57
!endmeeting