<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:31
!startmeeting fedora-server
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:33
Meeting started at 2025-08-06 17:00:31 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:33
The Meeting name is 'fedora-server '
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:44
!topic Welcome / roll call
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:52
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:52
As usual, let's wait a moment for everybody to show up.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:52
I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:01:13
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:14
Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:01:19
Hi, Peter Boy
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:02:21
Hi Emmanuel Seyman I was afraid you were busy with Perl. But that's next week.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:02:49
I suspect the August meeting will be cancelled so I should be here next week
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:02:53
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:02:54
Paul Maconi (aggraxis) - he / him / his
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:03:06
Hi Paul!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:04:30
Hi nirik I guess, you are lurking as usual - while busy with a lot of other things. So we would meet our quorum.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:05:38
yeah, as usual. Can try and pay some attention. ;)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:05:53
OK, thanks. So we can start.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:01
!topic Agenda
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:11
!info What do we want to achieve in the upcoming months
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:11
!info Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:11
!info F43 release testing
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:11
!info Walk through longterm open issues and PRs
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:11
!info Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:35
Any comment / proposal here?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:56
Obviously not. So
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:06
!topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:16
!link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2025/
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:16
Regarding the action, nothing new. See
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:16
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:48
Has someone else something to add / to anounce here??
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:48
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:07:49
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:07:51
Jocelyn Gould (korora) - she / her / hers
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:08:27
Yay! you made it!
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:08:30
no, nothing to ss
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:08:32
Jocelyn (she/her): Welcome! I see you could make it nevertheless
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:08:47
OK, let's move on.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:08:49
no, nothing to add
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:08:55
!topic 2. F43 release testing
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:09:06
Tracking issue: !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/164
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:09:31
Sorry, I've still to update the link to the current test version.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:10:19
Has anyone been able to test anything in the last week?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:11:18
No, I should be able to get some done this weekend
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:11:41
No, I should be able to get some done this weekend
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:11:43
Yeah, same for me. At least it is scheduled on my todo list
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:12:09
We're wrapping up summer and headed into school starting next week, so I'm a little distracted. :)
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:12:11
I’ve been tied up with family stuff
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:03
I'm planning to test the interactive installation, UEFI, BIOS, single disk default and Softwarfe RAID 1
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:21
My test equipment ist already ready :-)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:31
I'm just missing myself
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:14:03
We need someone to test the VM and checking our VM installation documentation at this occasion.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:14:17
And we need some testing with aarch64 / SBC.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:14:50
My testing will be on one of my SBC boards, I just don't know which one yet
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:14:52
And we need checks of the change proposals.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:15:33
Yeah, officially QA wants to limit tests to Raspberry.
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:15:54
My testing will probably be on a VM. I lost access to my test machine (ran out of space to have it setup.)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:15:56
Unfortunately, it is that model that is least ideal for server.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:16:20
Jocelyn (she/her): VM would be great!
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:16:40
Do they specify a generation? I’ve got Pi 3B’s floating around.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:17:27
Regarding RPI, I think it is 4. I don't jknow if support for 5 is already working.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:17:35
I suspect we're talking about Pi 3 or 4
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:17:51
I think I have some 3Bs and a 4 somewhere. VM testing (from the iso and from the qcow image) are easy enough to do. I should probably see if the Cloud SIG wants any info from me, too, since I use the Cloud qcow most commonly in my setup.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:18:18
Emmanuel Seyman: OK, as far as I remember, support for 5 is not ready yet.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:18:24
So it 3 or 4
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:18:38
That's the impression I got at Flock
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:19:18
I am going to be working on setting up a pxe boot environment for my x86 machines. (Tiered of lugging around a pair of usb drives when I get the urge to do something different on my laptop. Would help with VM’s as well.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:20:36
Jocelyn (she/her): PXE would be great! WE are missing this in our documentation so far. So, perhaps you could write down your steps and experiences, so it may be a base for documentation :-)
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:20:47
I have been wanting to write an Ansible playbook to setup a PXE boot server for some time now
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:21:54
I found some documents from the 36 release that I’m going to start with. I just have to be careful so I don’t muck my network up. I have to have it functional to work (and so that the Mrs and kids don’t break me for breaking the network)
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:22:16
I still want to learn how to leverage ansible.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:22:52
Well, I suppose everything es said, so far and we can proceed.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:06
I would like to swap topics 3 and 4. Otherwise, 4 might get left behind.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:17
!topic 4. What do we want to achieve in the upcoming months
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:26
no Tracking issue
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:37
We should have a short talk about our plans.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:23:41
Well we definitely want to get some testing in. :P
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:24:15
Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): heardly agreed. I hope we have more next week
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:24:45
FTR, I really want to package the more useful Ansible roles I use
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:00
I'm working on several things.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:00
Apache vedeo conference openmeetings for Fedora / Fedora Server. It's special because it includes collaboration tools such as whiteboards, LibreOffice documents, etc.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:52
It's mostly Java, and I'm familiar with this. But there is also a C++ part. I would need some help here, My C++ working was 2 decades ago.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:26:54
And
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:28:04
This is OpenMeetings, right?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:28:06
And I'm working on a mailserver hub. It's ready and already in productive use on several of my servers. I "just" have to write the documentation. And I need help with a Ansible playbook.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:28:29
Emmanuel Seyman: Yes, Apache OpenMeetings.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:29:14
Well, and I'm working on a Home Server version, bvut that's a bit back in the line.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:29:51
Well, so far my ideas / plannings.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:30:26
What are you thinking about future work?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:31:14
I really just want to focus on packaging Ansible roles and documenting how to use them
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:31:57
I think, that's really great. That is part of our technical concept and overdue.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:33:07
Maybe, you can help to develop an Ansible thingy for the mailservervice? It includes postfix, dovecot, assessin, and some minor things, too, as opendmarc, ....
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:33:39
I think, it's quite complex
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:33:40
I would be glad to
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:34:43
OK, I think, in 2-3 weeks I have a draft documentation hat is not only understandable to me.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:35:26
So you could see what I'm doing and check, how to improve it and how to put it in Ansible.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:36:10
Is anyone here familiar with C++ ? I'm a bit lost here.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:36:39
Haven't done any since my student days
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:37:00
OK,, welcome to the club :-)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:37:41
Any additional comment here?
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:38:01
It's been about 25 years, sorry
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:38:42
Yeah, I see C++ isn't popular here
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:39:17
I'll try to find someone of my students here (but most of them don't love C++ eithjer).
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:39:35
My C++ class helped me understand that I never wanted to be boxed in to just programming as a job. :)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:39:56
:-O)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:40:28
OK, let's switch to topic 3.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:40:37
!topic 3. Walk through longterm open issues and PRs
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:40:47
no Tracking issue
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:41:25
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issues
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:41:31
I may go back and update the proxmox guide
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:41:41
they have a new major version release that I'm going to check out
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:42:06
That would be very good! There may be updates necessary.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:42:12
Yes, v9 just came out
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:42:53
I'm excited for them and also for the folks over at Debian on 13 coming out soon. lots of activity in the greater community.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:43:15
Regarding the topic. We have neglected the issues and MRs for a long time. How can we get this under control?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:44:44
As an example
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:44:48
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/159
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:45:23
It's really quite simple. But someone of us has to spent some minutes on it.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:45:48
Hmm. I don't know that I'm getting notifications for issues on that project. I'll check that tonight after work.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:46:01
Because you're right, that's an easy fix.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:46:29
Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): The problem is, notification doesn't work anymore. I checked with Nirik, and we couldn't get it up and running.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:47:05
Ok. It also looks like I'm not a member of the project, either
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:47:22
FTR, I can't reproduce the issue
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:47:42
How can one tell?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:10
My idea would be, we make it a standard topic of out meeting, similiar to topic 1. But we would need someone to take a look onto it on a regular basis, and prepare the topic
<@korora:fedora.im>
17:48:32
I don't appear to be a member either
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:48:57
Go to https://pagure.io/fedora-server and click and 'members'
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:49:43
Oh, we have to update the member list in pagure. I forgot this! Sorry sorry. Will do it soon.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:50:32
I can skim the new issues so we can bring them up
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:50:58
We also had the issue that the stg and prod branches were diverging more and more, IIRC
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:51:15
Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): ++1
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:51:31
We will include a topic next meeting about it.!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:51:44
And yes, our branches diverge.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:54:06
agreed, let's talk about this next week
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:54:21
and update the member list in the meantime
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:55:21
I just added Paul, but can't find a FAS name for Jocelyn, hm.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:55:54
But OK, I resolve this in the next 2 days and we talk about it next week.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:56:07
!topic 5. Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:56:24
We have 5 mins left, so we can use it for open floor.
<@aggraxis:fedora.im>
17:57:43
I'm good. I'll poke around issues and look for low hanging fruits to resolve
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:06
Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): 1++
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:48
Obviously there is nothing else at the moment. So we may close now. Objections?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:55
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<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:03
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<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:14
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<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:17
!endmeeting