2025-05-27 17:00:25 <@fale:fale.io> !startmeeting FESCO (2025-05-27)
2025-05-27 17:00:28 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-05-27 17:00:25 UTC
2025-05-27 17:00:28 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'FESCO (2025-05-27)'
2025-05-27 17:00:28 <@fale:fale.io> !meetingname fesco
2025-05-27 17:00:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now fesco
2025-05-27 17:00:33 <@fale:fale.io> !group members fesco
2025-05-27 17:00:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Members of fesco: David Cantrell, Fabio Valentini, Fabio Alessandro Locati, Tomáš Hrčka, Kevin Fenzi, Matthew Miller, ngompa (@conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im, @pharaoh_atem:opensuse.org, @ngompa:kde.org, @ngompa:almalinux.im), Michel Lind, Stephen Gallagher, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
2025-05-27 17:00:38 <@fale:fale.io> !topic Init Process
2025-05-27 17:00:40 <@fale:fale.io> ~hi
2025-05-27 17:00:43 <@fale:fale.io> !hi
2025-05-27 17:00:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fabio Alessandro Locati (fale) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:00:56 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-27 17:00:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> David Cantrell (dcantrell) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:01:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-27 17:01:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:01:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2025-05-27 17:01:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !hi
2025-05-27 17:01:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Kevin Fenzi (kevin) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:01:39 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-27 17:01:40 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:03:30 <@fale:fale.io> we have the quorum :). Let's wait a couple minutes to see if other appears
2025-05-27 17:03:50 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-27 17:03:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:04:47 <@fale:fale.io> !topic #3410 Update moby-engine/docker-cli rpm version for F42 and F41
2025-05-27 17:04:50 <@fale:fale.io> !fesco 3410
2025-05-27 17:04:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
2025-05-27 17:04:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by buckaroogeek
2025-05-27 17:04:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-05-27 17:04:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fesco #3410** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3410):**Update moby-engine/docker-cli rpm version for F42 and F41**
2025-05-27 17:04:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-05-27 17:04:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-05-27 17:05:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:05:08 <@fale:fale.io> this should be an easy one, but I see not many people voted on this
2025-05-27 17:05:26 <@fale:fale.io> we only have +4
2025-05-27 17:05:36 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I thought I voted on this, I just added my +1
2025-05-27 17:05:44 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I do remember reading it
2025-05-27 17:05:45 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> why was this tagged for meeting?
2025-05-27 17:05:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah, I thought I did too... but I guess not.
2025-05-27 17:05:56 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> +4 over one week is enough to approve it in ticket
2025-05-27 17:06:06 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-27 17:06:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2025-05-27 17:06:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbyszek)
2025-05-27 17:06:10 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> I lost track of time.
2025-05-27 17:06:16 <@fale:fale.io> :/ sorry for that. I was sure it was +5 in a week
2025-05-27 17:06:39 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> eh, it doesn't really matter *where* it's approved :)
2025-05-27 17:06:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +3 over a week is the minimum bar
2025-05-27 17:07:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> (with no -1)
2025-05-27 17:07:28 <@fale:fale.io> we are +6, so I guess we can count it as approved
2025-05-27 17:08:16 <@fale:fale.io> !agreed AGREED (+6, 0, -0)
2025-05-27 17:08:43 <@fale:fale.io> !topic #3412 Removal of packages with invalid license
2025-05-27 17:08:50 <@fale:fale.io> !fesco 3412
2025-05-27 17:08:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-05-27 17:08:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fesco #3412** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3412):**Removal of packages with invalid license**
2025-05-27 17:08:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-05-27 17:08:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a week ago by msuchy
2025-05-27 17:08:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
2025-05-27 17:09:14 <@fale:fale.io> zbyszek: left the only comment on this. Do we want to discuss it?
2025-05-27 17:09:26 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> I fixed libieee1284 and iscan-firmware.
2025-05-27 17:09:45 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> And we can drop scapy-doc as a subpackage trivially.
2025-05-27 17:09:47 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I was waiting to hear an update from the reporter
2025-05-27 17:09:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Yeah, I was waitning for a reply on it...
2025-05-27 17:09:51 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Proposal:
2025-05-27 17:09:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Yeah, I was waiting for a reply on it...
2025-05-27 17:10:10 <@humaton:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-27 17:10:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tomáš Hrčka (humaton) - he / him / his
2025-05-27 17:10:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> Sorry I am late
2025-05-27 17:10:50 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> The only package that still needs work is 'scapy'. We ask one of the maintainers or msuchy to drop the scapy-doc subpackage.
2025-05-27 17:11:34 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> (wording suggestions welcome. I hope the intent is clear.)
2025-05-27 17:11:42 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> +1 to what zbyszek proposed
2025-05-27 17:11:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, sounds fine to me. +1
2025-05-27 17:11:48 <@fale:fale.io> +1
2025-05-27 17:11:54 <@humaton:fedora.im> +1
2025-05-27 17:11:55 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> +1
2025-05-27 17:12:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1
2025-05-27 17:12:23 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> +1
2025-05-27 17:13:34 <@fale:fale.io> !agreed "The only package that still needs work is 'scapy'. We ask one of the maintainers or msuchy to drop the scapy-doc subpackage." (+8, 0, -0)
2025-05-27 17:14:09 <@fale:fale.io> !topic #3414 LLVM-20 Change Proposal: Revert Install Prefix Changes
2025-05-27 17:14:16 <@fale:fale.io> !fesco 3414
2025-05-27 17:14:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
2025-05-27 17:14:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fesco #3414** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3414):**LLVM-20 Change Proposal: Revert Install Prefix Changes**
2025-05-27 17:14:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-05-27 17:14:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a week ago by tstellar
2025-05-27 17:14:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-05-27 17:14:47 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> yeah I don't think there's a good way around this (other than to disable i686 arch on F42 after the fact 😄)
2025-05-27 17:14:51 <@fale:fale.io> Tom Stellard replied to Stephen Gallagher ask, but no more comments on this
2025-05-27 17:15:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess this would be reverted in f42+ then?
2025-05-27 17:15:23 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Sorry, I forgot to reply after you answered.
2025-05-27 17:15:34 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I agree, if it's not ready, roll it back and try again another time
2025-05-27 17:15:35 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> The revert sounds reasonable.
2025-05-27 17:15:39 <@fale:fale.io> I think it is sensible for ow, until a better solution is figured out
2025-05-27 17:15:46 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Maybe something better can be figured out later, yeah.
2025-05-27 17:15:48 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> +1
2025-05-27 17:15:50 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> if reverting works due to symlink -> directory or whatever replacement not working in dnf, then sure ...
2025-05-27 17:15:58 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> nirik: Can today be that day? Please?
2025-05-27 17:16:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, if we just say 'sorry wine users, do something else' it could be?
2025-05-27 17:16:36 <@fale:fale.io> :D
2025-05-27 17:16:44 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> there's an open PR to enable "new WoW64 mode" in wine
2025-05-27 17:16:53 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> which is basically the only blocker that I know ofd
2025-05-27 17:16:57 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> which is basically the only blocker that I know of
2025-05-27 17:17:11 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> nirik: At this point in history, I suspect that a plurality of wine users are using Flatpaks
2025-05-27 17:17:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'm sure it will affect some people, but... things move on.
2025-05-27 17:17:38 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Well, there's also the question of using Fedora as a 32-bit development environment. I do this, FWIW.
2025-05-27 17:17:39 <@fale:fale.io> Stephen Gallagher: would wine in flatpak work without i686 in the base os?
2025-05-27 17:17:50 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> it does
2025-05-27 17:17:51 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Fale: As I understand it, yes.
2025-05-27 17:18:10 <@jspaleta:fedora.im> sidebar... can we get metrics on that right now from package downlod metrics?
2025-05-27 17:18:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no
2025-05-27 17:18:31 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Oh, wow, new FPL.
2025-05-27 17:18:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I would doubt this.
2025-05-27 17:18:47 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> I don't think so - systems only identify by host architecture, and i686 packages are only used on x86_64 hosts 
2025-05-27 17:18:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> It's either native RPM, CrossOver RPM, or Steam
2025-05-27 17:18:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and Hi Jef Spaleta! :)
2025-05-27 17:19:07 <@fale:fale.io> Conan Kudo: even if they are not, it can be suggested as work around, if we go that route
2025-05-27 17:19:17 <@fale:fale.io> hi Jef Spaleta :)
2025-05-27 17:19:18 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Hi Jef Spaleta
2025-05-27 17:19:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> There is no "wine flatpak"
2025-05-27 17:19:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> oh hey there is
2025-05-27 17:19:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we can't get stats for packages. We just give users mirrorlists and they download from mirrors. So, not too much way to tell currently
2025-05-27 17:19:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> nevermind
2025-05-27 17:20:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it ships winetricks as a flatpak wrapping wine itself
2025-05-27 17:20:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> steam was the other holdout... but there I do think lots of people have moved to the flatpak
2025-05-27 17:20:17 <@jspaleta:fedora.im> 👋 didnt mean to derail.. first meeting i could lurk in, with all the onboarding firehose over the last couple of weeks
2025-05-27 17:20:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that said, Wine is supposed to be working on a reverse thunking thing for 64-bit POSIX to 32-bit Windows
2025-05-27 17:20:29 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> HGL uses Wine-GE, Steam uses its own Proton stuff ... 
2025-05-27 17:20:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Steam itself is 32-bit POSIX
2025-05-27 17:20:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, this is kind of a derail?
2025-05-27 17:20:43 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> yes, that's what I referred to by "new WoW64 mode" :)
2025-05-27 17:20:53 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Yeah, my fault. Sorry about that.
2025-05-27 17:20:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and the RPM outstrips the Flatpak because of usability issues with Flatpak
2025-05-27 17:21:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (the wine pr has a comment from the maintainer that they would merge it if it was reworked for the current version... 3 months ago)
2025-05-27 17:22:27 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it looks like some wow stuff was added in 10? https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/wine/c/11b57cc76c536a899a830c883c400e44e298f384?branch=rawhide
2025-05-27 17:22:29 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> for reference: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/wine/pull-request/19
2025-05-27 17:22:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (and it's been open over a year)
2025-05-27 17:23:00 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Let's get back on track?
2025-05-27 17:23:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> +1
2025-05-27 17:23:17 <@salimma:fedora.im> oops, sorry, missed the past few mins
2025-05-27 17:23:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, +1 to the revert, it seems like the way for now even though it's not ideal
2025-05-27 17:23:31 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Michel Lind UTC-6: Good timing for those minutes
2025-05-27 17:24:00 <@fale:fale.io> +1 on the revert for now 
2025-05-27 17:24:12 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> +1 for the revert
2025-05-27 17:24:34 <@humaton:fedora.im> should they do change proposal?
2025-05-27 17:24:51 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> for a change on F42? I hope not
2025-05-27 17:24:53 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> No, because it's for F42.
2025-05-27 17:25:14 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> jednorozec: For most practical purposes, this is a late, partial invocation of the contingency plan
2025-05-27 17:25:38 <@humaton:fedora.im> Oh sorry, my confusion was that it was a change for f42 should we somehow document it for f43 that its not the case anymore?
2025-05-27 17:26:15 <@salimma:fedora.im> hmm yeah, if it's a late revert that means the release notes are wrong... maybe we need a concept of erratas
2025-05-27 17:26:16 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> I think a note should be added on the Change page.
2025-05-27 17:26:20 <@humaton:fedora.im> Because I as a user expect changes that ocured in 42 to be in 43
2025-05-27 17:26:31 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Let's be pragmatic about htis.
2025-05-27 17:26:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> I am fine with any docs on this.
2025-05-27 17:27:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> Note is just fine, but something...
2025-05-27 17:27:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think a note on the change is probibly good...
2025-05-27 17:27:27 <@humaton:fedora.im> Oh and I am +1 for the revert
2025-05-27 17:28:24 <@jspaleta:fedora.im> its interesting this conflict wasnt caught.. which suggests the 32bit packages weren't being tested by anyone in the run up when the contingency should have fired?
2025-05-27 17:28:38 <@fale:fale.io> So far I have Michel Lind UTC-6 , nirik, Fale, dcantrell, jednorozec +1. Is this correct?
2025-05-27 17:28:49 <@fale:fale.io> Jef Spaleta: I think 32bit is a niche today
2025-05-27 17:29:02 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> +1 too
2025-05-27 17:29:05 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Almost as if 32-bit is a shambling corpse, ready to be laid to rest permanently... :)
2025-05-27 17:29:17 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Fale: I was +2 also
2025-05-27 17:29:18 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Fale: I voted +1 above.
2025-05-27 17:29:33 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Fale: I was +1 also
2025-05-27 17:30:15 <@fale:fale.io> Neal Gompa (Fedora): ?
2025-05-27 17:30:17 <@jspaleta:fedora.im> that may be generally true, but this feature seems to be bound up around the use case of 686 enablement...unless im misunderstanding the feature
2025-05-27 17:31:02 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Yes, but also upgrades of existing systems and such.
2025-05-27 17:32:02 <@fale:fale.io> yeah, I doubt we can drop i686 in F43
2025-05-27 17:32:33 <@fale:fale.io> !agreed APPROVED (8,0,-0)
2025-05-27 17:32:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1
2025-05-27 17:32:41 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> definitely not F42 but F43? we can hope
2025-05-27 17:32:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> probably not F43 either
2025-05-27 17:32:56 <@fale:fale.io> !agreen APPROVED (9, 0, -0)
2025-05-27 17:33:12 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> typo :)
2025-05-27 17:33:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 32-bit is basically not niche as long as it's a hard dependency for video games
2025-05-27 17:33:30 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> We greenlighted the proposal, hence 'agreen'.
2025-05-27 17:33:37 <@fale:fale.io> !agreed APPROVED (9, 0, -0)
2025-05-27 17:34:08 <@fale:fale.io> it kind of it, if there is a real workaround, imho
2025-05-27 17:34:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> no
2025-05-27 17:34:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's not how "niche" works
2025-05-27 17:34:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if it was niche, we could turn it off in the kernel by default
2025-05-27 17:34:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we know it's not niche, so we aren't doing that
2025-05-27 17:35:18 <@fale:fale.io> I think we do not have the data to say if it really niche or not
2025-05-27 17:35:41 <@smooge:fedora.im> 'niche' is like what is an Indy band.. depending on the question and the time... everyone has a different definition
2025-05-27 17:35:57 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> next topic?
2025-05-27 17:36:02 <@fale:fale.io> !topic Next week's chair
2025-05-27 17:36:06 <@fale:fale.io> any takers?
2025-05-27 17:36:16 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> I thought we wanted to skip next week?
2025-05-27 17:36:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I will be on a plane next week at this time
2025-05-27 17:36:36 <@fale:fale.io> yes, the week after that :D
2025-05-27 17:36:39 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> I'll be running to catch a train around that time next week. 
2025-05-27 17:36:47 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Yeah, we decided last week to skip the next meeting
2025-05-27 17:36:48 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> the week after that will have new fesco members :)
2025-05-27 17:37:01 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> I can do it.
2025-05-27 17:37:36 <@fale:fale.io> !action zbyszek will chain the week after next meeting (10/06)
2025-05-27 17:38:00 <@fale:fale.io> !topic Open Floor
2025-05-27 17:38:19 <@humaton:fedora.im> I have one for open floor
2025-05-27 17:38:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> fale has already given cookies to zbyszek during the F42 timeframe
2025-05-27 17:39:10 <@humaton:fedora.im> So we are making forgejo rpm for fedora.
2025-05-27 17:39:59 <@humaton:fedora.im> We are struggling with compiling assets for the web app. Is there a way to ship upstream compiled assets?
2025-05-27 17:40:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> Should we ask for exception from fesco or someone else?
2025-05-27 17:40:37 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> have you asked the Go SIG? I don't remember seeing this question in the #golang:fedoraproject.org channel
2025-05-27 17:40:44 <@humaton:fedora.im> yup
2025-05-27 17:40:55 <@humaton:fedora.im> SOme people also commented on the review
2025-05-27 17:40:58 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> Didn't we pass an general exception?
2025-05-27 17:40:59 <@humaton:fedora.im> let me find the link
2025-05-27 17:41:33 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> "compiled assets" being ... what? minified JS / CSS?
2025-05-27 17:41:35 <@humaton:fedora.im> I thought so but was unable to filter it in the tracker
2025-05-27 17:41:53 <@humaton:fedora.im> yes its "compiled"
2025-05-27 17:42:10 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> yeah I think we passed an exception for those 
2025-05-27 17:42:13 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Yes, we did
2025-05-27 17:42:17 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Let me find the ticket.
2025-05-27 17:43:06 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3269 is the CSS one
2025-05-27 17:43:37 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3177 for JavaScript
2025-05-27 17:43:53 <@humaton:fedora.im> thank you Stephen Gallagher 
2025-05-27 17:44:07 <@humaton:fedora.im> we might get forgejo rpm for flock ;)
2025-05-27 17:44:08 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> jednorozec: Basically, it should be regenerated if it reasonably can be
2025-05-27 17:44:23 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> But not doing so is not blocking
2025-05-27 17:44:46 <@zbyszek:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/c/82155a1
2025-05-27 17:45:57 <@humaton:fedora.im> That is all I have. Thanks!
2025-05-27 17:46:06 <@jspaleta:fedora.im> is that am upstream discussion opportunity? to see if working upstream to provide pre-compiled assets as code is something that can be worked on?
2025-05-27 17:46:46 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Jef Spaleta: What do you mean?
2025-05-27 17:47:15 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> There's nothing inherently wrong with them providing the pre-compiled assets
2025-05-27 17:47:31 <@jspaleta:fedora.im> sorry misread the problem statement
2025-05-27 17:48:05 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> cockpit and a few other things already do this
2025-05-27 17:48:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so it's been "allowed" for a while when it is infeasible to rebuild the assets
2025-05-27 17:49:05 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> (there is probably a topic in itself about what constitutes reasonable infeasibility)
2025-05-27 17:51:37 <@fale:fale.io> I'd like to share with everyone https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/5365 . There are issues in ostree-rpm land with users. No decisions to be made from FESCo side, but simply an FYI.
2025-05-27 17:51:52 <@fale:fale.io> are there other things in the open floor?
2025-05-27 17:53:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing here
2025-05-27 17:53:53 <@fale:fale.io> I guess we can close if in 1 mintue there is no taker :)
2025-05-27 17:54:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> nothing from me
2025-05-27 17:55:00 <@fale:fale.io> !endmeeting