2025-05-08 19:30:17 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !startmeeting ELN SIG 08 May '25
2025-05-08 19:30:18 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-05-08 19:30:17 UTC
2025-05-08 19:30:18 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 08 May '25'
2025-05-08 19:30:46 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !meetingname eln
2025-05-08 19:30:46 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now eln
2025-05-08 19:30:52 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Init process
2025-05-08 19:31:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-08 19:31:50 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Troy Dawson (tdawson)
2025-05-08 19:32:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-08 19:32:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2025-05-08 19:32:28 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2025-05-08 19:32:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2025-05-08 19:32:55 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2025-05-08 19:32:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2025-05-08 19:33:57 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> hello all, we got a late start today, so let's get into it
2025-05-08 19:34:04 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic New business
2025-05-08 19:34:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/246
2025-05-08 19:34:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh interesting
2025-05-08 19:34:42 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> The inactive packagers removal process orphaned a bunch of RHEL packages, looks like some have already been taken
2025-05-08 19:35:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I did forward the announcement internally so that RHEL maintainers would take a look (hopefully)
2025-05-08 19:36:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-05-08 19:36:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-05-08 19:36:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's good, hopefully people pop up out of the woodwork
2025-05-08 19:38:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> it's happened before that an ELN package got retired due to lack of maintainer, so we want to prevent that from happening again, probably something we (RH) just need to be on top of
2025-05-08 19:38:47 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Old business
2025-05-08 19:38:56 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/222
2025-05-08 19:39:25 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Troy Dawson: I merged the pungi config change after releng added the "package", so now we just wait for the next ELN compose?
2025-05-08 19:39:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya!!!
2025-05-08 19:40:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Should know if it works in a couple hours ... or tomorrow, whichever comes first. :)
2025-05-08 19:40:18 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> there should be one more compose later today
2025-05-08 19:40:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I think we got everything correct, but you never quite know until it goes all the way through.
2025-05-08 19:40:31 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> yep
2025-05-08 19:41:00 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192
2025-05-08 19:41:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> more good news, this is done
2025-05-08 19:41:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya!!!
2025-05-08 19:41:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> the ELN background now appears OOTB with GUI installs
2025-05-08 19:41:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> beefy ELN
2025-05-08 19:41:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info the ELN background now appears out of the box with GUI installs
2025-05-08 19:42:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> No, beefy was gobbled up, we're left with just the condiments.
2025-05-08 19:42:44 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> it did turn out though that we don't have any openqa on GUI, since nothing broke as a result
2025-05-08 19:43:21 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So ... no breakages. ... always a plus.
2025-05-08 19:43:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> "dnf install beefy-miracle-backgrounds\*" For those that want their backgrounds with beef.
2025-05-08 19:44:04 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> not sure I'd call not having tests a "plus" 🤷‍♂️
2025-05-08 19:44:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/202
2025-05-08 19:44:57 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: I think grpc is yours?  https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grpc/pull-request/38 is one of the last dependents on openssl-devel-engine in ELN Extras
2025-05-08 19:46:24 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca Michel Lind UTC-6 and you were going to check on fsverity-utils if it's still needed?
2025-05-08 19:48:36 <@davide:cavalca.name> Michel Lind UTC-6: did you have an update on that one? I haven't had a chance to followup on it myself yet
2025-05-08 19:50:18 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> did we lose everybody?
2025-05-08 19:51:00 <@salimma:fedora.im> hi! one sec
2025-05-08 19:51:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> no, I have not followed up on fsverity either
2025-05-08 19:51:31 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> grpc is mine, yes.. i need to find time for it 😕 will try and get that merged though
2025-05-08 19:51:37 <@salimma:fedora.im> too many things going on, sorry, things will probably be crazy until after RH summit
2025-05-08 19:52:25 <@salimma:fedora.im> we move to having an internal repo for our workloads precisely so we can annotate why things are added... but this predates that
2025-05-08 19:53:00 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok
2025-05-08 19:53:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-qrcode/pull-request/9
2025-05-08 19:53:20 <@salimma:fedora.im> where is fsverity-utils in extras, actually? hmm
2025-05-08 19:53:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh in eln_extras_hyperscale
2025-05-08 19:54:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Michel Lind UTC-6: qrcode your's too, it's a bit of a hack, Miro's a bit worried the flit metadata will get out of date but I don't think there's much there that changes frequently
2025-05-08 19:54:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> argh,it's part of the initial commit of the file.. in 2022.
2025-05-08 19:54:51 <@salimma:fedora.im> will take a look
2025-05-08 19:55:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> you know where to find me 😁
2025-05-08 19:55:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> it's gated to RHEL only so I guess it's fine
2025-05-08 19:55:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> where did Miro raise his concern? he normally comments on the PRs
2025-05-08 19:56:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> internal chat
2025-05-08 19:56:04 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah
2025-05-08 19:56:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> which releases do you want this to be built on? I'm landing now
2025-05-08 19:57:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> I guess every release that's on par with Rawhide should be updated
2025-05-08 19:57:24 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I just need rawhide
2025-05-08 19:57:51 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> you can fast-forward it later if/when you otherwise need to, but no reason to build just for that
2025-05-08 19:58:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> well it adds missing extras, I think that's worthwhile. looks like it's only f42
2025-05-08 19:58:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> f41 is on qrcode 7
2025-05-08 19:58:48 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> oh right, forgot about that part
2025-05-08 19:58:54 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> yeah f42 would benefit from that
2025-05-08 19:59:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> building now.. let's move on :). thanks for the ping
2025-05-08 19:59:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Next meeting
2025-05-08 19:59:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> any conflicts for next week?
2025-05-08 20:00:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> me
2025-05-08 20:00:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> travel day - let's see if I'll be in the air or at the lounge in which case it's fine
2025-05-08 20:00:29 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'll also be traveling
2025-05-08 20:00:39 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anyone else?
2025-05-08 20:00:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I have no conflict
2025-05-08 20:01:02 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> /me will be here
2025-05-08 20:01:37 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info next meeting will be Thursday 15 May 15:00 ET per regular schedule
2025-05-08 20:01:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2025-05-08 20:01:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> plane departs at 1 local so one houjr before the meeting, and lands ... 4:13 Eastern so not long after the meeting is over
2025-05-08 20:02:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> so I might be able to join at least the beginning, providing wifi holds
2025-05-08 20:02:28 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> whatever works for you
2025-05-08 20:02:46 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anybody have anything else to bring up?
2025-05-08 20:02:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Nothing from me
2025-05-08 20:03:14 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nor I
2025-05-08 20:05:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !endmeeting
2025-05-08 20:05:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> seeing none, thank you all for joining today, and we'll see you around in channel(s)