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<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:00:51
!startmeeting ELN SIG 06 Feb 2025
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
20:00:52
Meeting started at 2025-02-06 20:00:51 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
20:00:52
The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 06 Feb 2025'
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:01:02
!meetingname eln
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
20:01:03
The Meeting Name is now eln
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:01:10
!topic Init process
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:01:58
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
20:01:59
Troy Dawson (tdawson)
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
20:03:06
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
20:03:07
Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:03:26
hi Troy Dawson Neil Hanlon
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:04:34
Davide Cavalca Michel Lind 🎩 UTC-6 Conan Kudo are you around?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:04:46
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
20:04:56
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:05:16
great timing 😁
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:05:57
I guess we'll get started and hopefully the others will join us
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:06:15
!topic New business
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:07:07
!info f42 branched on Tuesday, all ELN-related activities around that were completed, with the possible exception of resigning of packages with the new key
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:07:30
!info composes are currently accepting both f42 and f43 sigs in the meantime
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:07:51
resigning should be also all done. ;) should change pungi config to new key at your leasure.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:08:24
thanks nirik
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:09:05
!action yselkowitz to update pungi config to use only the f43 signature key
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:09:39
!info mass rebuild cleanup is continuing, still work to be done
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:10:02
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:10:29
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:10:43
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:11:05
any questions or discussion on that?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:12:16
It's looking much better than I expected.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:12:47
There's still some GCC 15 fallout to deal with, but progress is being made.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:14:27
one ELN-specific failure I wanted to call out: https://pagure.io/fedpkg/issue/589
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:16:18
anything further on any of this?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:17:51
If I wanted to resubmit a build, how are we doing it nowdays?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:18:07
resubmit a build to ELN or rawhide?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:18:11
ELN
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:18:43
Let's say I see that fedpkg scratch builds are now building, would I just submit the build to the ELN build target? Is that ok?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:19:22
for a one-off build that doesn't need the whole bootstrapping that EBS does, that's fine (e.g. `fedpkg --release eln build`)
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:20:13
if it's a bunch of packages or you do need everything that EBS provides, we have a way to re-trigger packages in EBS, but it's behind the firewall
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:20:47
OK
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:21:20
any other new issues that anyone wants to raise today?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:21:28
None from me
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:22:27
in that case...
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:22:33
!topic Old business
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:23:26
going forward, I would like to spend some time reviewing existing tickets on our tracker, in the hope that we can start making some progress on (some of) them
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:23:39
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
20:24:45
another note, I wasn't aware or forgot, but eln cloud images should be available now for your cloud eln needs. Sorry we didn't note it when it was setup.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:25:22
Very nice
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:25:34
!info ELN cloud images are now available for testing in AWS and Azure
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:26:00
the issue for that was closed accordingly, but thanks for reminding me to note it
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:28:41
back to #30, what's left here is to add the running of dist-git tests on ELN for rawhide PRs (ELN scratch builds are already being done)
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:30:27
I'm not sure how exactly that would be implemented, unfortunately there is no link pointing as to how the scratch builds were enabled
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:31:12
I'm not even sure what dist-git tests are. Miro seemed to know.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:31:39
Are they seperate tests that reside in dist-git?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:32:05
let me find an example
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:32:45
e.g. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/util-linux/pull-request/20
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:33:45
Oh, all those Zuul tests being done there.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:34:03
not every package has this, but those that enable Zuul CI, it runs various tests which can be defined in the repo (STI/FMF, although iiuc STI is deprecated?)
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:34:22
along with running scratch builds, which is now does for eln alongside rawhide
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:34:37
Are those these tests - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/util-linux/blob/rawhide/f/tests
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:34:40
so the remaining request is to run those FMF tests on eln as well
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:34:52
ok, understood.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:36:02
Thats something I currently don't know how to implement.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:36:49
me neither
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:37:13
anybody else?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:38:03
moving along then
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:38:52
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:39:41
Oh, I didn't put my prototype background up there.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:40:14
so right now, we don't have any background wallpaper in ELN
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:40:27
there are a few possible options listed there
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:41:31
Troy, you said you were going to work on this, and I think you we're making artwork just for ELN?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:41:45
(aka option 3)?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:42:11
Yep, though it's possible people won't like it.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:42:38
If people don't like it, I'd like going with Fedora's generic wallpaper.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:42:58
But having our own, would make it very obvious that it isn't Fedora.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:45:08
I also think having our own logos would be good, but I consider that secondary.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:45:43
But, since we have our own logo ... it might be easier.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:45:55
!idea we open up for submissions and vote in a couple weeks
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:46:13
thoughts?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:46:58
I like the idea, but I think I'll need 3 weeks to get the packages/backdrop/logos is respectable shape ... how about Feb 27 meeting.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:47:26
anybody else want to get in on this?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:50:05
moved: submissions for ELN-specific artwork are now open at https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192 with voting three weeks hence (27 Feb)
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:50:28
let's vote!
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:51:23
Sorry ... I thought the voting was in 3 weeks.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:51:40
But I'm +1 for the idea of doing it then.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:51:56
I'm asking for a vote on the submission window and timing
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:52:19
anybody else still with us?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:52:20
Ah, OK. Then sure, +1 from me.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
20:54:10
+1
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
20:55:23
+1
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:56:01
#agreed submissions for ELN-specific artwork are now open at https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192 with voting three weeks hence (27 Feb)
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:57:02
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:57:30
I'm noticing a bit of a trend on the Issues you are choosing.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:57:54
I'm choosing things that I think we can discuss with who is here today, not picking on you specifically
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:58:20
e.g. I skipped some things because Davide and Michel aren't here
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:58:22
This one I'd like to put off until next week.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:59:02
Partly because we only have 2 minutes
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:59:19
oops lost track of time
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
20:59:26
!topic Open Floor
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
20:59:38
Partly because I've been doing a writup for #194, and would like to have people have a week to digest / discuss what I wrote / asked.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
21:00:37
After this meeting, I'll put up what I wrote ... I'm almost done, but didn't get it done before this meeting.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
21:01:05
thanks Troy
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
21:01:12
anyone else have anything today?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
21:02:08
Nothing from me
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
21:03:09
in that case, thank you all for coming. meetings are weekly now, and of course there's always #eln:fedoraproject.org in the meantime
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
21:03:13
!endmeeting