Meeting started at 2025-01-24 17:01:57 UTC

The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 24 Jan'

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The Meeting Name is now eln

Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

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Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his

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Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

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Troy Dawson (tdawson)

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Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

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Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

looks like we have a nice crowd, let's get started

results are in, looks like we have a few options that will work for most of the group:

2. Thursdays 1pm ET

3. Thursdays 3pm ET

1. Tuesdays 1pm ET

any preferences between these?

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Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his

option 3

options 1 and 2 collide with other meetings for me

I'm good with any of them, but I prefer it on Tuesday, but again, any are good.

option 1 is the same timeslot as fesco

so definitely not for me

sorry I didn't see a response from you Conan Kudo

yeah that's because I missed all this while being sick most of this month

sorry to hear that

probably best to avoid fesco though

I have a preference for Tue as well but I can probably make these all work

of the three options, option 3 is the only one I can reasonably make

a "second place" option was Tuesday 3pm but one of you declined that

let me check between 2 and 3 then

yeah conflicting with Fesco is absolute no go

2pm was worse

Tue 3pm is better than Thu 3pm for me; 2pm would be even better (3pm is noon here, so I'd probably end up multitasking with lunch)

3pm ET Thu is right after centos promo, so that works. 1pm et means right after FPC so that's fine too, though that means I have a very late lunch

I'm hearing an overall preference for tuesdays

i can make nay work, tues works though

3pm ET Thu is right after CentOA Alt Images, so it works for me

any, even

3pm ET Thu is right after CentOS Alt Images, so it works for me

given the various conflicts, it seems 3pm Tuesdays would be best in that case

but Thursdays are still possible

wait, i thought 3pm tuesday is not one of the three options

so, tradeoffs to be made

i have not checked my tuesday availability... let me check

my tuesday availability is partly shot because I have a meeting at that time sometimes

it's not weekly, but it is regular

I would be fine with tue 3pm or thu 3pm

I might have a preexisting appointment once that I don't want to move, but I can avoid it in the future

are we tracking US/Canada time with this or UTC?

I can probably make tuesday 3pm work, it's just I'd be splitting it with a video call every few weeks

oh ... ET, so it's easy to pin for me anyway

I was planning on tracking US/Canada Eastern

whichever way

pegged to US/ET works great

Oh, that was something I was going to ask. Are we going to weekly, or keeping it by-weekly.

weekly

It doesn't change my availability, just curious. OK.

do we have enough consensus to make a proposal?

I am a +1 for options 1, 2, 3 or 4 (tuesday a 3pm) ... so I'll leave it up to the rest of you to decide.

I'm going to scratch option 1 as it conflicts with fesco

so:

3. Thursdays 3pm ET

4. (added) Tuesdays 3pm ET

2. Thursdays 1pm ET

could everyone put their preferences in order please

3,4,2

3,4,2

4,3,2

(my slight preference for 3 is I don't really want to have other meetings *after* FESCo)

Stephen Gallagher: your preferences?

or I might as well write off the day for doing non-meeting work

yselkowitz: I told you previously not to block on me, but 2,4. I can't do 3.

Or rather, I can't do 3 for the next month; probably can once we get to March

I can't do 2 at all

I think we're ready for a proposal

so 4 is the only option then

Stephen said not to block on him

yselkowitz: looks like the instructions was a bit ambiguous, probably tell people explicitly the choices do not have to be exhausted :)

Michel Lind 🎩 UTC-6: "Don't block on me", I said.

true. I meant that Neal said he can't do 2 but it's on the list

anyone want to propose?

3 looks like the best option, so I'm fine with missing the meeting for a while until my daughter's ski lessons are finished :)

I might be able to semi-attend by cellphone app.

ready to vote?

yselkowitz: Which day?

🤦‍♂️

3pm Friday is _great_ :P

let's vote!

+1

+1

+1

A few times a year, this will probably coincide with the Go/No-Go meeting, but that's probably workable.

Davide Cavalca Michel Lind 🎩 UTC-6 ?

+1

+1

sorry Neil Hanlon I missed you

maybe we lost him?

ope, sorry. i'm legit good with anything :)

the F42 mass rebuild was merged on Tuesday, the ELN mass rebuild went pretty quickly after that

but there have been a lot of compose-breaking issues over the last few weeks, mostly due to the bin-sbin merge and sysusers changes which landed just before the mass rebuild

the worst of those have been cleaned up and we finally got a post-mass-rebuild commit late last night

but there are various issues to still clean up, including quite a number of (mostly F42) FTBFS, largely due to GCC 15

individual maintainers have been working their way through the first and second lists on their own (since those are Fedora failures), and I've been looking at the third list

I'm fixing some of them this week

great news!

oh boy util-linux failing

haven't looked into util-linux yet

fixing the composes took most of my last couple days

any other questions/comments on the mass rebuild?

none from me

none from me. oh -- some of us won't be around next week

FOSDEM

well, second day of the CentOS Connect fringe event pre-FOSDEM

how many people are going to FOSDEM and won't make next Thursday?

Me

anyone else?

Me, Davide

Neal too

anyone to propose to cancel next week due to FOSDEM?

I propose we cancel next weeks meeting.

me, too

sure

i second

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oh, there is no command for proposing is there

there is no action for moving a motion

I move that we cancel next week's ELN meeting due to CentOS Connect and FOSDEM

there, that sounds more complete for the logs

+1

Michel Lind 🎩 UTC-6 moves seconded by Neil Hanlon that the meeting for Thursday 30 January be canceled due to FOSDEM

let's vote!

+1

+1

+1

Davide Cavalca Conan Kudo ?

+1

just a few minutes left, anyone have anything to bring to the group?

Nothing from me

nope

nope

nothing

thank you all for your patience today with the rescheduling, enjoy FOSDEM for those who are attending, and next time we'll be able to start working through tickets. in the meantime, see you in channel

big same.

Thank you yselkowitz

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