Meeting started at 2024-12-11 18:00:04 UTC

The Meeting name is 'fedora-server '

I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.

As usual, let's wait a moment for everybody to show up.

!hi

John Himpel (jwhimpel)

Hi John!

Peter Boy: I got connected to sisyphos this AM. Thanks for the help.

Yeah, it was a busy weekend and the last 2 days to get everything running again

We are still a bit 'understuffed'. I hope mowest is still commuting and will join us soon.

!hello

Steve Daley (mowest)

I will be in and out

OK, thanks, so let's start.

Let's start with this if there is no addition

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no new open actions.

Anything to add / announce here?

Obviously none.

Review of the current state

Unfortunately, due to several hardware failures last Friday, I was so busy the last few days that I couldn't deal with it. So, where we are?

Last week, I called it up for viewing. It looked okay to me. Since i was doing this before "Opening Date", I did not submit any data. Is JWF or anyone else able to give us usage data on a regular basis?

I don't know about the current status, unfortunately. mowest did you receive some infos from Justin?

And yes, as far as I know you can get info about the data while the poll is running. But I don't know the details how to get it.

But I think Justin will help us.

I submitted last Wednesday the newsletter article for comment, haven't received anything back. Was it okay? I think we just need to notify Fedora Magazine to publish the article and have marketing get the news out over social media after article goes live.

I read the article, but couldn't manage to review and reply. On a first sight it might be a bit short for FedMag. And before we publish we have to be sure the poll is uop and running.

Well, I can read the proposal again tomorrow. And maybe I have some ideas about what to add.

I believe the poll at the address in the article is up and running.

To me it looks the same as last week? Did you see any indication about the status?

Do you have the link at hand? It's burried here

My impression was that is the final status

No I don't have link handy on phone not at computer.

The link is https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/fedora-server-f41

OK, I think we should try to ask Justin, to be sure. And I'll respond on mailing list about the article. At the moment, we are stuck, I guess.

So, let's continue with next topic for now. Any objections?

Let's move on.

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We had a longer discussion on mailing list. Anything to add here?

All WG members who participated voted to keep the message. Any other ideas here?

I bellieve Martin Pitt has decided not to make the change (see his email from today)

Yes, nevertheless, we should make a decision here, formaly. It is our matter.

I would prefer it even more if the graphical user interface were explicitly emphasized.

Instead fo simple "Web console:" something like "Graphical Web console:"

Not that anyone will get the idea that it is simply a web based text terminal (which is also present, of course).

Nevertheless, I think there is no objection here. Therefore

proposed !agreed Regarding bug 1635200, WG agrees to keep the current Cockpit informational message.

Any objection?

3

I agree

2

1

next topic

It appears that f41's move from dnf to dnf5 has caused my ansible modules some heartburn. It appears it was not a 100% backward compatible upgrade. First indications also suggest that handling "changed when" and "failed when" might be somewhat different in f41. I am still researching those issues. Since sisyphos came back online very recently, I have been able to resume testing. May be able to commit changes to the repository later today. Certainly by tomorrow.

Yeah, I was bitten by some incompatibilities of dnf5, too.

I will send a message to the ML when the commit is completed.

But OK, let's have a look in the comming days. I'm in the process to prepare the information to make an Ansible playbook to set up an advanced mail service. I would like to use your work as a model or template.

OK, let's move on.

Maybe, we should skip this now. We miss a lot of our members today.

I wold like to have an open discussion about this and probably to check and collect, what each of us would like to work on. As an example, I would like to continue with Fedora Server in a virtualized environment and I would like to make a 'Home Server' spin specifically for SBC / Raspberry. And I hope others may have additional ideas.

Well, let's move on for now.

Nothing from me for Open Floor

OK, so let's close for today.

Many thanks for coming and bye bye!