Meeting started at 2024-10-28 07:01:37 UTC

The Meeting name is 'i18n'

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The Meeting Name is now i18n

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Let's start today's meeting with our Agenda topics

As you know this time we got only 1 Change for Fedora 41, that Change has been implemented and tested successfully as well as part of our i18n test week

now this Change need to be documented as part of release-notes as well

the ticket is open already

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Anything I need to do as the change owner?

this ticket has the needed information https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/fedora-linux-documentation/release-notes/-/issues/131

Kan-Ru Chen: So either you can submit or docs team will take release notes contents from Change page

anything else to discuss for this ticket?

I assume nothing more to discuss here.

we still have some bugs open against Fedora 39 release

Today's count is 37 now

Last date to resolve them is 26th Nov

Are there any we should discuss?

well individual assignee can better access if they find it important to fix

well individual assignee can better assess if they find it important to fix

So does any assignee think they need more time to fix any of these bugs?

we still have one month time so try to triage them

Let's move to next ticket

Yeah thought we should discuss this

mfabian: around too?

Yes, I think we could add ibus-cangie.

Probably best to install both ibus-cangie and ibus-table.

I suppose an additional question is whether we should install by default - we don't really have hard criteria I think

Well not both by default anyway imo

I would prefer to choose one if possible

I think it would be nice if both were available when using a Live image.

Hmm

Why?

Currently there is none of them on the live image, of I remember correctly, because I made a mistake in comps.

Right earlier we didn't install by default

I think we have an open ticket about language criteria

Would it be OK to have only ibus-table on the live image and install ibus-cangie later when zh_HK is used?

Yes it would

Or vice versa

At least assuming it doesn't violate hypothetical criteria

Then I would prefer that, install ibus-cangie later and keep ibus-table the default.

But ibus-cangjie asking for it

But ibus-cangjie people asking for it

I think we need to compare perhaps

We removed ibus-cangie from the default because it was crashing, I fixed the crash but upstream appeared dead when I submitted my fix. Maybe upstream has raised from the dead and is active again?

Seems so

That could be part of the conversation

If it is active, and most users prefer it, I would not mind making it the default.

I think we can respond in Bugzilla - I should probably post the issue there too

Anyway should really be done as a Fedora Change

I think we can respond in Bugzilla - should probably post the issue there too

Yes.

Any other thoughts?

fujiwara pwu: ?

I know the ibus-cangjie crash issue but anyone didn't report it and I assumed there aren't many users.

There's a new version in fedora

It would be another issue.

I think it need a Fedora Change and discussion.

fujiwara: I mean the crash is old, but I get your point

Maybe some polling in Fedora Discussion first.

Obviously if it is still buggy we won't change

It would be good to keep the current status until users report any issues. I don't think it's the important issue.

I also wondered if there are many users because nobody seemed to complain when it was crashing.

I think we can take a similar approach to how we handle ibus-chewing

I think we can take a similar approach to how we handled ibus-chewing

Hmm

So maybe it's not such a priority to install by default

Well a discussion would be good - I agree with pwu

There are no objective comparison even in bugzilla. they should mention what/why ibus-cangjie is better than ibus-table.

Right we need to ask

If ibus-table has some shortcomings, I would like to know what exactly and improve it.

Okay let's start the conversation

thanks for having this discussion

let's move to next topic

Fedora 41 is getting released tomorrow

so tomorrow our Fedora 41 development will be complete

Fortunately ibus 1.5.31 RC1 is now in the stable repo.

let's move to next topic

anything else to discuss here?

if nothing more to discuss, let's stop here.

Thank you for joining this meeting