<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:00:45
!startmeeting fedora-server
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:46
Meeting started at 2024-06-05 17:00:45 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:46
The Meeting name is 'fedora-server'
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:01:00
!topic Welcome / roll call
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:01:24
We wait some mins for people to show up.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:01:51
Hello, all
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:02:07
Welcome eseyman!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:05:26
Seem to be a small line-up today.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:05:54
Indeed
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:06
We don't even reach the quorum
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:06:40
Let's wait another 5 mins.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:06:53
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:06:55
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:07:09
Hi Neal!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:12:49
Well, I don't think it makes sense today. We depend on John and on Tomas for the important things.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:02
We should aim to have an out-of-order meeting next week.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:12
And discuss and prepare it on mailing list.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:13:38
I will send private emails to the usual suspects to tell them about the meeting
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:13:54
OK, good idea!
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:14:24
humm... Not sure next week works for me
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:14:31
I'll try
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:14:51
Peter Boy: I will reply tonight to your email re Flock
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:15:09
Yeah,thanks.
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:15:31
Hello. element was giving me trouble logging in
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:15:32
I think, we close for now? OK with that?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:16:36
Oh, hi! And I thought the Elements / login issue is resolved.
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:17:12
For some reason 2fa takes 3 tries
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:18:51
so to speak, 3fa :-)
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:19:34
true
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:20:53
Well, how do we want to proceed? Close now or e.g. deal with the last 2 topics, goals and open floor?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:22:13
Let's do something, at least...
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:22:56
OK, lets start with the goals topic, we postpone that for weeks now.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:24
!topic Fedora Server goal(s) and "story" for F41 / F42
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:37
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/134
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:23:49
!link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/CYBDCSRVIIBDEL3ZQ2GY7XWWB2KIN63P/
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:25:25
E sounds like a good story that could be done for F41
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:25:51
Yeah, the file server,
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:25:59
D sounds like a nice one for F42
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:26:29
agree with E for F41.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:27:30
Yes, E is a good item. We have some work done regarding NFS and Ansible Assisteince (John worked on that).
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:28:43
I would be interested in a (Fedora on VPS and rented hardware), not as a story, but a goal.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:29:47
What wold be the goals in case of E (file server)?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:30:46
I think, we dump the idea of a Cockpit module for now, or keep with the existing provisorium. We should concentrate on a working and proper Ansible support.
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:32:19
so Ansible to install NFS and/or Samba??
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:32:44
cooltshirtguy: yes, bothj I guess.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:32:48
well, the installation is part of it
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:33:38
I would advocate sharing media/data
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:34:28
my NFS servers exports TV Shows, Movies, Music and Audiobooks so that I can get at them from whatever PC I'm on
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:35:11
Not sure if anyone has NFS-mounted homedirs but that sounds like something I'ld like to read about
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:35:14
I share cifs/NFs from my Synology but could do it from another computer
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:35:44
use automount for that. we did it at my last job
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:36:45
@eseyman good idea sharing media. That could also be part of out homelab server / ARM SBC goal and story, that we couldn't finisch for f39/40.
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:38:01
that's an interesting idea. setup NFS server then setup automount for home dirs. it wold take some time to figure it out
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:38:11
I export movies and tv shows so that my Vim3L (hooked up to the TV) can read them
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:40:41
Oh yeah, the Vim :-)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:41:34
My misfortune in the last few days.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:41:42
On the ansible side, I should note that I've started using somebody else's code
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:43:04
Yeah, I think, that's OK in OSS. And of course we honor in other's work.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:43:15
Robert de Bock has written 200+ roles in Ansible that support Fedora and I've started using these instead of rolling my own
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:43:26
https://robertdebock.nl/ansible.html
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:43:41
i didnt know that. now I'm going digging
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:44:01
and I'll provides patches and bug reports when I find something that doesn't work on Fedora
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:45:54
OK, I propose I draft an issue for that, specifying the goals and the current status how we want to achieve that. Then we can start to finetune it and hopefully add results soon :-)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:46:43
Any objections?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:46:55
sounds good to me
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:46:59
nope
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:47:51
!agreed pboy will write a draft issue for the goal "file server" as a base for further finetuning and detailed specification.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:08
!action pboy will write a draft issue for the goal "file server" as a base for further finetuning and detailed specification.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:45
Goals are 1. to support specific VMs for the VPS of different providers, and 2. to get Fedora Server as one of the standard offerings on rented hardware (e.g. Hetzner).
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:48:45
Shortly about the other proposal. Regarding Item a. (VPS), my proposal is not focused on a specific release, but on a long-term task.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:49:23
and ofcourse others, e.g. OVS (UK)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:50:27
OVS -> OVH
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:52:06
The latter is basically testing and writing documentation, and nagging the provider :-)
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:52:48
well, providers!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:53:27
Any comments?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:54:26
I would OVH to support Fedora. Count me in on the nagging part
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:55:06
OVH?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:55:18
Of course! very much!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:56:25
OVH is a UK based company which lends root server
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:56:58
The same as Hetzner in Germany wich is operating international, spec. in US, too
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:57:11
ahh ok.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:57:16
OK, so
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:57:42
!agreed WG's goal is to improve the use of Fedora Server in a VPS infrastructure and to promote it as a standard offering.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:57:43
OVH is the largest hosting provider in Europe
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:08
Oh, OK. I thought Hetzner would be the largest.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:58:23
Anyway, we need them all.
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
17:58:51
didn't know that about OVH.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
17:58:52
agreed
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:16
Thanks.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:51
Our time is up.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
17:59:53
It was a good meeting! Despite our small numbers.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:16
small number of members, I mean.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:00:27
are we still on for a meeting in a week
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:00:29
?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:40
I would suggest!!!!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:01:16
Please, write a mail as proposed. So we can make it fix.
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
18:01:23
I'm on vacation next week. life has been busy lately
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:01:36
Will do
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:01:55
What I pitty. cooltshirtguy are you OK, if we meet anyway?
<@cooltshirtguy:fedora.im>
18:02:08
that's fine
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:02:28
OK. So I think, we close now.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:02:42
Many thanks und bye bye.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:03:04
!endmeeting