Meeting started at 2024-02-19 08:00:37 UTC

The Meeting name is 'i18n'

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Lets start today's meeting

As you know Fedora 40 mass branching has been finished last week.

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F40 daily composes are also now available for testing

Anyone tried?

have not had time yet, but will try later today for the GNOME 46 Beta test week, updated with dnf-systemupgrade on a laptop but have not really had time to use it yet, been sick and still are a bit sick

I have not tried as I was waiting for Silverblue compose which is now available, so will check it soon

There is Gnome testday going on this week. If anyone want to join, check this https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-02-19_Fedora_40_GNOME_46_Desktop_and_Core_Apps

after that another testday http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-02-22_Fedora_40_GNOME_46_Apps

and after that start of March the i18n test day

https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177

yeah but there is 1 week gap

yup

anything to discuss in this schedule topic?

if nothing then let's move to next topic

We got 2 Changes submitted this time

Both the changes are in Accepted state now :)

ibus beta is already built

Didn't check ibus-anthy

thanks for the update

anything to discuss here?

hi

I guess nothing then we move to next ticket

35 total bugs count today

this is usual reminder ticket to work on your bugs

check the bugs assigned to you and see if you can fix or move to later releases for fixing

moving to next ticket

We have setup our Fedora 40 i18n testweek now

you can find more information about it at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-05_I18N_Test_Day

Anyone got any questions here for this testing event?

It's still Test Week?

Okay you already said

GNOME test week is starting today, and the i18n one in two weeks

Maybe we can drop next time Test_Day word in test event wiki title page

so there will be no confusion

Ya, 2 in 1 🥲

let's move to next ticket

so are we still thinking to make ibus-chewing as default IME for Taiwan?

I think I fixed two issues in ibus-libzhuyin...

thanks for fixing those issues Peng

Welcome

Sorry but that doesn't really answer the question yet though 🙂

Maybe you can discuss with someone from Taiwan

Right

Okay let's check update on this by next meeting then

I guess one advantage of yours is the input suggestions?

Yes

Okay

let's move to next topic

Can talk briefly about langpacks for Atomic Desktops?

Sorry I don't have the link at hand right now - perhaps someone else?

would be interested in that as someone who work on a language (Swedish) :P

travier came to the suggestion that we should install some hunspell dictionaries by default

Thanks

I have a few more comments I didn't post yet... But good to cover it here too first

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Well actually I think it would mean pre-installing a selection of langpacks

And then re-enabling the auto installation for other langs

maybe let you choose in the installer, not used any Atomic desktops, or ask with a shell script or a popup or something after the install what languages you want?

We don't currently pre-select any packages generally, but yeah that would be ideal

The language gui I have been dreaming of comes to mind...

But I don't think there's time for F40 anyway

Actually I want to ask again what the main concern with layering langpacks is

(I kinda paused the discussion during the branching and LNY)

not had time to read and not really played with immutable distros yet

paragan and tagoh: what are your thoughts?

All 3 of us use SB :)

increase in size of media and installation is direct result if we include all langpacks packages

We can't include all I think

if we are okay with that then I think we can have langpacks as default installed for ostree

Okay so we need to choose subset from all the available langpacks packages?

Perhaps

At least I fixed glibc now

If we have hunspell installed, can flatpaks really use it?

I don't think so

It's a good point

Actually I would prefer to move it all to freedesk runtime!

Or equivalent

Something Fedora based

Yeah, that makes sense.

Though that's quite radical of course

Would actually be quite cool cos then can install fonts without a reboot

But we probably need some minimal system fonts? So it seems non-trivial

Maybe the new container boot is more appropriate

Anyway that's all long term

Guess I am more interested right now on the short term approach

Like what we do in F40

I think even langpacks-en is layered

Maybe we could just add for anyone who complains 😂

Any more thoughts?

Anyway I guess I will restart the discussion - but if you feel it's going wrong please speak up

What I get is that we don't want all langpacks installed

and we are okay with some langpacks installed

Yes seems a reasonable compromise to me

I don't love it but better than all or nothing I feel

so next question should be which langpacks packages should be installed default

Right

That's the harder part

Maybe a selection from main gnome list? 🤷🏻‍♂️

maybe

Maybe a subset from main gnome list? 🤷🏻‍♂️

also we are running out of meeting time

Okay

anything else to discuss on this langpacks topic?

Maybe we can continue in Fedora i18n

Needs some thought at least

Sure

yeah or during next meeting in two weeks? up to you i guess

(interesting can't edit last messages yet, maybe my connection)

Let's stop here then

Thank you all who joined this meeting