<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:06:42
!startmeeting CentOS Hyperscale SIG
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:06:44
Meeting started at 2024-01-03 16:06:42 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:06:44
The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:06:57
!topic Roll call
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:07:03
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:07:04
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@rcolebaugh:matrix.org>
16:07:13
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:07:15
Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his
<@davdunc:fedora.im>
16:07:27
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:07:29
David Duncan (davdunc) - he / him / his
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:07:35
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:07:36
Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:08:02
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:08:03
No Fedora Accounts users have the @teknoraver:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:08:16
I need to add it then
<@jordanrome:matrix.org>
16:09:04
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:09:05
No Fedora Accounts users have the @jordanrome:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@anitazha:matrix.org>
16:09:08
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:09:09
No Fedora Accounts users have the @anitazha:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@renegadext:matrix.org>
16:09:14
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:09:15
Bill Schouten (ctlinux)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:09:42
I think a bunch of people need to add their MXIDs to FAS now :P
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:10:08
https://accounts.fedoraproject.org/ to fix that y'all :p
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:10:58
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:11:04
Matteo Croce (teknoraver)
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:11:08
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:11:08
Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:11:21
I feel dumb. KDE taskbar froze on me and the clock was stuck at 8:39 am lol
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:11:23
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:11:25
Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:11:46
lol. been there
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:12:06
Or forgot to change my time zone back after traveling
<@renegadext:matrix.org>
16:12:09
Is there a video meeting or something I need to join?
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:12:21
this is text only
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:12:27
we do have a monthly video meeting though
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:12:50
this one: https://www.centos.org/community/calendar/#hyperscale-sig-monthly-hangout
<@anitazha:matrix.org>
16:14:33
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:14:35
Anita Zhang (anitazha) - she / her / hers
<@jordanrome:matrix.org>
16:15:53
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:15:55
No Fedora Accounts users have the @jordanrome:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:16:31
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:16:36
Matteo Croce (teknoraver) - he / him / his
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:16:43
perfect
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:18:14
do you have a Fedora account with your matrix ID attached?
<@jordanrome:matrix.org>
16:18:27
Let's try one more time :)
<@jordanrome:matrix.org>
16:18:31
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:18:33
Jordan Rome (jordalgo) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:18:39
there ya go!
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:19:09
okay, I think that's everyone, so...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:19:24
!topic Follow-ups
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:19:34
Anyone have anything to follow-up from the previous meeting?
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:19:56
sorry I'm late
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:19:58
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:19:59
Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:21:32
I mentioned a `linux-firmware` update. It's still blocked on getting rdfind in EPEL
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:21:58
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2255771
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:22:23
!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2255771
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:23:10
given it's the holiday season I figured I'll extend the grace period before pinging / needinfo but I should do that later this week
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:23:29
has anyone... gone through stalled EPEL request with this maintainer? Not sure how they would react
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:23:49
uhhh
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:24:01
Maybe Carl George?
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:24:27
there's always "ask for rdfind in git.centos.org" as a nuclear option but that seems silly
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:24:47
but yeah I don't want getting this into EPEL to jeopardize chances of getting linux-firmware PRs reviewed and merged
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:25:33
i think a gentle nudge (i.e., no needinfo) would be fine, since as you said, it was during the holidays it was sent. could've been missed or accidentally forgotten about
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:25:54
oh yeah. in general this would be fine
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:27:04
needinfo is nicer because now bugzilla surfaces it in the dashboard though. but yeah I would wait until ... actually let's give it until next Monday so it's 2 weeks+1 instead of the required 1 week
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:32:36
anyone else?
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:33:15
my follow up is I didn't get a chance to work on anaconda over break.. but it's on my list for this week :)
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:34:37
my productivity is being hampered by Fedora 39 and bluetooth headphones not getting along :(
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:35:03
haven't had any issues fwiw
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:35:42
yeah it seems to be a.... me issue :) though - good point, let me see if these have some firmware update that is pending... thanks! lol
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:35:46
yeah my bluetooth headphones work fine in Fedora 39
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:35:53
(Bose)
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:36:08
i use a usb dongle (cheapo amazon one) and skullcandy crusher evo 2 or some crap
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:36:32
my sony's give me a weird connect message basically saying the ad2p sink isn't available
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:37:00
it's an intel bt chip, which appears to be the common thread in all the stuff I find online
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:37:13
anyways, didn't mean to derail lol
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:37:28
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08M1VJHVD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:39:01
probably got one of them spy chips in it! /s
<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>
16:39:01
i don't have any direct experience with the stalled process and this maintainer. i'd say just follow the process and not worry about it. if anyone is still unhappy about that policy they can propose further adjustments to it.
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:39:37
good thing we mainly do open source work :)
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:39:50
tru tru
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:39:52
though now we have to deal with LLM copyright violations :P
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:40:07
and--apparently--LLM HackerOne reports
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:40:14
(https://hackerone.com/reports/2298307)
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:40:26
Ok sorry to break order of things here but I'm about to have to run. Guess it hasn't impacted anyone (or maybe it has) but I patched https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/577 upstream earlier and will get it PRd to stream later today.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:40:38
thanks jonathanspw !
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:40:57
Can be kind of nasty depending on workflow and how you interface/build libvirt configs. In my particular case it broke live migrations, new VM builds, and VM rebuilds :D
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:41:18
ouch.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:41:41
ooof
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:42:10
Bug was introduced in libvirt <= 9.3 so it's an issue in cent stream for >6 months and in EL 9.3.
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:42:17
Bug was introduced in libvirt >= 9.3 so it's an issue in cent stream for >6 months and in EL 9.3.
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:42:31
as well as fedora (will also be PRing there)
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:42:35
good catch, thank you
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:42:44
I'll bubble this up to our virt folks internally
<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>
16:42:49
ok y'all, gotta run. Hope everyone had a good holiday!
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:42:52
thanks for this!
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:43:46
so anything from anyone else?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:44:55
guess not, so let's move on to...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:45:07
!topic Announcements
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:45:15
anyone got anything to announce?
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:46:19
I forgot if I mentioned it the last time, but we (Meta) are working on getting the sched_ext userspace packaged in Fedora in preparation for the kernel side getting (hopefully) merged upstream
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:46:51
once that's sorted out we'll get it branched in EPEL, and likely integrate the kernel bits in the Hyperscale kernel so folks can actually use it
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:47:19
if it's not usable with the stock CentOS kernel, can we have that in EPEL?
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:47:29
if you have no idea what this is: https://github.com/sched-ext/scx/blob/main/OVERVIEW.md
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:47:44
(we can always get it in HS first, just wondering)
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:48:06
we have various userspace for hardware stuff that's not in the stock centos kernel branched in EPEL, so I think it's fine?
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:48:37
I would say as long as it doesn't have any negative consequences on the system, I don't see a reason not to branch it
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:49:59
yeah, fair. as long as some of the tools does /something/ I think it should be fine anyway
<@jordanrome:matrix.org>
16:51:13
There are some good blog posts and tutorials on writing your own schedulers in the main readme.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:52:20
if the tools gracefully fail and there's a reasonable path to it being available in RHEL, I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be in EPEL
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:55:54
anyway, is there anything else?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:56:10
if not, we can move onto...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:56:18
!Tickets
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:56:24
blech
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:56:28
!topic Tickets
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:56:54
Nothing changed ticket-wise since the last meeting, so let's just move onto...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:56:58
!topic Membership
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:57:41
we still have https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/158 for Matteo Croce who is actually here today :)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:58:13
Yup!
<@michel:one.ems.host>
16:58:18
intro time :)
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
16:59:18
🥳
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:59:21
hi there!
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
16:59:33
I'm Matteo Croce, working for Meta from Italy
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
17:00:14
I use Fedora (and RHEL/CentOS) since something like 5 years
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:00:51
jeez
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:04:11
Matteo Croce: what are you interested in for Hyperscale?
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
17:05:24
I'm not very expert in large scale systems, I'm still learning
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
17:05:44
I was working on the Linux kernel before, mostly networking, wifi and ebpf
<@davide:cavalca.name>
17:06:32
Matteo will likely end up taking over RPM CoW, and hopefully getting it past the finish line
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:07:16
That would be fantastic!
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
17:07:55
yeah, I'm trying to get familiar with the codebase, with simpler tasks like this one:
<@teknoraver:matrix.org>
17:07:56
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2664
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:08:58
Well, I'm happy to see new contributors in the rpm stack, and especially a familiar face like yours :)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:09:09
Anyone object to Matteo Croce joining the SIG?
<@michel:one.ems.host>
17:09:48
no objection here
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
17:09:52
no objection
<@rcolebaugh:matrix.org>
17:09:56
No objections on my end :)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:11:35
then let's do this!
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:12:22
!agreed Matteo Croce is accepted as a member of the CentOS Hyperscale SIG. Davide Cavalca will do the process to add him to the SIG.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:12:49
And with that, we're done with this, so onto...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:12:57
!topic Miscellaneous
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:13:06
Is there anything else anyone wants to bring up?
<@renegadext:matrix.org>
17:13:51
Not from me, but this was insightful
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:14:14
Cool!
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
17:14:20
the inner workings of madness!
<@michel:one.ems.host>
17:14:37
madness... or genius?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:14:43
I do have one thing for Davide Cavalca though... you still need to get that backlog of meeting minutes+logs on the site :)
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
17:14:54
half of one, six dozen of the other
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:14:55
and sort to reverse chronological order
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
17:15:01
or.. something ;)
<@davide:cavalca.name>
17:15:12
I know, will try to get it done either this week or the next
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:15:22
sounds great
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:15:31
and with that... I think it's time to END IT ALL
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:15:38
💣️
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:15:42
!endmeeting