fedora-coreos-meeting
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<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:30:44
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:30:50
Meeting started at 2026-07-01 15:30:44 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:30:50
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:31:03
!topic roll call
<@rapneset:matrix.org>
15:31:16
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:31:19
rapneset: Rolv Apneseth (rapneset)
<@hricky:fedora.im>
15:31:31
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:31:32
Hristo Marinov: Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:31:35
!hi
<@nimbinatus:matrix.org>
15:31:36
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:31:38
marmijo: Michael Armijo (marmijo)
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:31:41
nimbinatus: Laura Santamaria (nimbinatus) - she / her / hers
<@cadejacobson:matrix.org>
15:32:58
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:33:01
Cade: Cade Jacobson (cadejacobson)
<@peytonrobertson:matrix.org>
15:33:36
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:33:37
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<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:34:56
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:35:13
!info there are no action items from the last meeting.
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:36:36
!topic Review Fedora 45 Release Schedule
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:36:48
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:36:49
spresti: Steven Presti (spresti)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:37:10
!hi
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:37:10
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:37:35
We don't have anything in the schedule to discuss today. The next topic is "Change Checkpoint: Major Toolchain Updates/Changes have landed in Rawhide deadline", which takes place the 13th of July.
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:37:56
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:38:45
Yesterday was the deadline for "Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)"
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:39:05
Yesterday was the deadline for "Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild / System Wide Changes)"
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:39:47
I think we have a couple changes in work for the self-contained changes deadline
<@jcapitao:matrix.org>
15:40:24
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:40:32
jcapitao: Joel Capitao (jcapitao) - he / him / his
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:41:00
Great, if there is nothing to discuss further about this, then we can move onto the tracker issues.
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:41:54
!topic tracker: Fedora 45 changes considerations
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:42:02
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:42:18
I think this one is by marmijo
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:43:36
There's not much to discuss here this week. We have three new change considerations. Another GoLang update similar to F44 (116), so I'll open a tracker issue for that one specifically.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:43:46
We also have another RPM version bump.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:43:58
115
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:44:00
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:46:03
That will also require some additional investigation on our end, so I'll open a ticket so we can do that
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:46:45
The last one, 117, doesn't look like it'll affect FCOS
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:46:47
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:48:14
Pretty straight-forward week for changes. We've done GoLang and RPM bumps in previous releases, so I'll take a look at those and get some issues opened and linked
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:48:19
Interesting effort.
<@siosm:fedora.im>
15:49:13
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:49:14
Timothée Ravier: Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:49:31
Sounds good! In that case, we can move onto the second and last tracker issue for today.
<@siosm:fedora.im>
15:49:44
for RPM 6.1 there is bugzilla for work on nss-altfiles
<@siosm:fedora.im>
15:50:20
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2476417
<@siosm:fedora.im>
15:50:39
(not stopping you from moving on, I'll past that in the tracker issue)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
15:51:42
Thanks Timothée Ravier!
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
15:51:48
I have to drop. will read scrollback later.
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:51:55
!topic Allow passing in Butane configs directly to instances
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:52:03
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:52:13
I think this one is by spresti
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:53:28
Yeah, I added a meeting topic, today because I started writing up the proposal. Timothée Ravier and I were talking about the packaging going forward.
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:54:06
!info currently I have made some assumptions in the packaging seen here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IgnitionNativeButaneSupport
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:55:38
Not fully on topic - but I think that one of the two links in the last comment in the issue may not be right spresti ?
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:55:52
(there are two links in the comment, but they're both the same)
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:56:31
Whoops yes
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:57:16
Updated
<@rapneset:matrix.org>
15:57:24
Any downsides to merging into a single spec file?
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
15:57:36
Thanks! Sorry for the nit pick, was trying to make sure I got the full context :)
<@spresti:fedora.im>
15:59:08
Im not sure that someone would always want ignition if they were just wanting to validate butane configs
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:00:12
What do you mean? The binaries would still be in distinct sub packages
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:00:47
That was a wrong assumption on my part then. sorry
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:01:59
I was thinking of merging everything into a single specfile in Fedora (the ignition one), but still produce all the independent packages that we have right now
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:02:08
(with the same names)
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:02:23
Hmm, so question
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:02:31
we can have the ignition specfile produce the butane package without issue AFAIK
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:02:34
would we be releasing butane separately ever?
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:04:15
If we do that this does indeed mean that everytime we need to touch one or the other only, we need to rebuild both
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:05:03
Hopefully we automate that with packit so that it's not too much work?
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:05:33
Packit downstream? last I checked its not a great story due to jira integration
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:05:40
Fedora sure
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:05:45
also we need signing
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:06:07
That, last I checked is not somthing we have access to and rely on relang team
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:07:47
yes
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:08:04
this one is unfortunately very manual :/
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:09:14
Would that make that much more releases? I don't think we release that often right now and we would likely combine the Ignition & Butane work into a single release for spec updates?
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:11:54
4th time in progress this year for butane, ignition is at 2
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:12:35
OCP is a guarantee butane release
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:12:42
Just to clarify, I'm OK keeping things split if there are advantages but I could not really find any so far
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:13:29
We will have to do "dual" releases for new ignition specs and that would mean double tickets for signing
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:14:43
Yeah I dont think there is a benifit. Just talking about the dual releases makes me sad, but regarding our actual talking point.. I agree.
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:14:54
Unless there are other thoughts?
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:16:16
!proposed: combine ignition and butane specs having butane be a subpackage of ignition archiving butane spec
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:17:39
+1
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:17:43
+1
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:17:54
+1
<@rapneset:matrix.org>
16:18:06
+1
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:19:44
!agreed: combine ignition and butane specs having butane be a subpackage of ignition archiving butane spec
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:21:17
Great, we can move on to the last topic of the day, the open floor. We have about 10m left.
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:21:21
!topic Open floor
<@spresti:fedora.im>
16:22:17
Whoops, I think we need a agreed without the ":"
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:22:36
!agreed combine ignition and butane specs having butane be a subpackage of ignition archiving butane spec
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:22:49
Thanks for that
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:24:44
podman 6.0 is in Rawhide for the advanturous ones :)
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:24:57
lots of changes
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:25:22
!info https://github.com/podman-container-tools/podman/releases/tag/v6.0.0
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:25:38
!info podman 6.0 is ready for testing in Rawhide
<@siosm:fedora.im>
16:26:04
https://blog.podman.io/2026/06/podman-6-configuration-file-changes/
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:27:22
onward and upwards! podman 6.0
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:30:25
Ok! We have reached the end of the meeting, thank you very much everyone for attending
<@angelcr:matrix.org>
16:30:29
!endmeeting