<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:00:19
!startmeeting ELN SIG 26 May '26
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:20
Meeting started at 2026-05-26 16:00:19 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:20
The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 26 May '26'
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:00:26
!meetingname eln
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:27
The Meeting Name is now eln
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:00:33
!topic Init process
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
16:00:36
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:00:37
Stephen Gallagher: Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
16:01:01
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:02
Troy Dawson: Troy Dawson (tdawson)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:02:42
!hi
<@davide:cavalca.name>
16:02:44
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:02:47
Conan Kudo 😌: Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:02:49
Davide Cavalca: Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
<@jligon:matrix.org>
16:03:19
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:03:21
jligon: Jeff Ligon (jligon)
<@jakubsencak:fedora.im>
16:04:30
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:04:41
jsencak: Jakub Sencak (jakubsencak)
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:05:09
welcome everyone, let's get started
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:05:20
!topic bootc
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:05:23
!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/214
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:05:30
jligon ?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:08:15
any updates?
<@jligon:matrix.org>
16:08:20
great question
<@jligon:matrix.org>
16:08:38
i think we were looking for volunteers to be co-maintainers from last week
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:09:00
Stephen Gallagher iirc you were interested?
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
16:09:29
Yes, I need to find some time for a data dump
<@jligon:matrix.org>
16:09:30
and I'm still getting bootc help for the compose images MR, but it is moving along
<@jligon:matrix.org>
16:10:05
the last MR is still in progress, joel was busy last week, but it will move along today
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:12:34
sounds good
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:12:50
please shout if there's anything you end up needing help with
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:13:33
!topic image builder
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:13:41
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:13:43
Michel Lind ☘ UTC+1 📛: Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:13:51
sorry, running between meetings as usual
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:14:12
!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/502
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:14:22
Simon de Vlieger any updates on this?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:16:54
guess not
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:17:50
!topic s390x baseline
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:17:53
!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/520
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:18:14
working now on bumping s390x to z15/z16 for ELN in preparation for RHEL 11
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:18:38
it turns out this was *supposed* to happen for f44 as well, but looks like it didn't
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
16:18:45
The patches submitted all look fine to me. I think we are just waiting on a merge?
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:18:52
so working that out with the tools team
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:19:10
q: if something fails in ELN that passes in Fedora because of the lower baseline... we have instances where we can test with mock with ELN right?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:19:45
/etc/mock/fedora-eln-s390x.cfg exists at last
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
16:19:45
Kevin announced some available instances recently.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:19:53
/etc/mock/fedora-eln-s390x.cfg exists at least
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:20:07
Stephen Gallagher yes except that the missed f44 baseline bump means that we might want to fix that too for f45 while we're at it
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
16:20:46
Ah, I see.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:22:03
oh so rawhide / eln11 uses the same baseline? that will keep things simpler
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:22:24
well, they were *supposed* to, but looks like that got missed for f44
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:23:01
all fedora (and downstream) infra is compatible with at least z15, which is why we're proceeding with that now
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:27:15
moving along
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:27:46
!topic libappstream-glib
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:27:49
!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/486
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:28:35
seems like this needs to be brought up with FPC and/or submitted as a system wide change
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:28:40
we can't yet
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:28:41
I'd happily vote for it
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:28:49
fedora is still using the deprecated libappstream-glib for verifying and compiling appstream data, but the consumers (e.g. discover and gnome software) are all using the new appstream library
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:28:50
still have to work out the details of getting asgen to replace asbuilder
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:28:55
oh... is there any reason we can't validate with the new tooling?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:29:07
the result would be invalid for composing repodata
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:29:19
everything has to match for us to swap the validator
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:29:47
it's on my todo to work with the asgen developer on finalizing how to do the switch
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:29:50
want to put this in writing in the issue?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:29:54
sure
<@salimma:fedora.im>
16:30:01
I just assume anything mentioned in a meeting is lost
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:30:59
blech I have to fix the FTBFS for asgen too
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:33:54
obviously I would really like to see this happen this year, so if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know
<@supakeen:fedora.im>
16:35:34
At the gym, I’ll update when I get home in the main channel. Apologies.
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:35:40
np
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:35:50
!topic kernel gating
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:35:57
!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/503
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:36:17
adamw jforbes any update on kernel gating?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:36:31
waiting on anyone to review those PRs I sent, I guess
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:36:46
the bodhi PR?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
16:36:56
the ARK ones I assume
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:37:37
!link https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/6110
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:37:47
!link https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/ansible/pulls/3340
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:38:00
adamw who needs to review the bodhi pr?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:38:19
mattia verga is the maintainer atm
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
16:39:44
ark one was merged, but I suppose needs to be changed once the bodhi one is done
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:40:10
pinged mattia on the PR
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:40:43
not having any sort of gating for kernel updates is making me nervous, so really hope we can move this forward
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
16:41:00
I mean for years we didn't
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
16:41:20
We had 1 series of events in years
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:41:58
a lot more projects are relying on eln than back then
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
16:42:42
Sure, but even the whole time you were relying on rawhide gating, that had little relevance on the ELN kernel which is a completely different config
<@jforbes:fedora.im>
16:43:17
I am not saying that we don't want gating, I definitely do... Just saying your current level of risk is not really increased
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:44:47
!topic Next meeting
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:44:56
any conflicts next week?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
16:46:55
I might have a personal conflict next week, but I don't have a work releted conflict.
<@sgallagh:fedora.im>
16:47:19
I should be around.
<@jakubsencak:fedora.im>
16:49:23
I should be around
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:49:51
!info Next meeting is next Tuesday 02 June 12:00 EDT
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:49:56
!topic Open floor
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:54:23
ok we'll close it out then, give everyone a few minutes before fesco
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:54:34
thanks everyone!
<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>
16:54:36
!endmeeting