2025-03-12 16:31:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2025-03-12 16:31:57 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-03-12 16:31:54 UTC
2025-03-12 16:31:57 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2025-03-12 16:32:02 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2025-03-12 16:32:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> !hi
2025-03-12 16:32:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
2025-03-12 16:32:20 <@jdoss:beeper.com> !hi
2025-03-12 16:32:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Joe Doss (jdoss)
2025-03-12 16:32:32 <@hricky:fedora.im> hi!
2025-03-12 16:32:34 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> !hi ravanelli
2025-03-12 16:32:34 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> !hi
2025-03-12 16:32:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
2025-03-12 16:32:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli)
2025-03-12 16:32:54 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2025-03-12 16:32:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2025-03-12 16:33:11 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi
2025-03-12 16:33:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Armijo (marmijo)
2025-03-12 16:33:14 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !hi
2025-03-12 16:33:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon)
2025-03-12 16:33:54 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2025-03-12 16:33:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2025-03-12 16:34:38 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !hi
2025-03-12 16:34:40 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
2025-03-12 16:34:44 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I'm kind of here kind of not here
2025-03-12 16:35:27 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting
2025-03-12 16:35:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2025-03-05/146877
2025-03-12 16:36:14 <@siosm:matrix.org> ACTION: jbtrystram work to get new zincati that supports updates via OCI completed before shipping F42 beta (@marmijo:fedora.im, 16:39:09)
2025-03-12 16:36:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> I think this is well in progress. Do we need to re-action it? JB is actively working on it
2025-03-12 16:36:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> I think this is well in progress. Do we need to re-action it? jbtrystram  is actively working on it
2025-03-12 16:37:02 <@jlebon:fedora.im> yeah i don't think we need to re-action
2025-03-12 16:37:09 <@mnguyen:fedora.im> !hi mnguyen
2025-03-12 16:37:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Nguyen (mnguyen)
2025-03-12 16:37:33 <@siosm:matrix.org> The second action item (apiaseck to work to schedule and coordinate a test week for Fedora 42 with the help of Renata Ravanelli and Sumantro Mukherjee) has an entry in today's agenda so let move on
2025-03-12 16:37:44 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Review Fedora 42 Release Schedule
2025-03-12 16:37:50 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> yeah i hope it will be merged soon
2025-03-12 16:37:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-key-tasks.html
2025-03-12 16:38:43 <@siosm:matrix.org> We are getting close to the beta
2025-03-12 16:39:33 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> We still need to agree on the date for the test days. It was held at the previous meeting since we were unsure of the final date for our F2F. Since it is now confirmed that F2F takes place on the week of 24/25’th of March… we can decide on the date for test days.
2025-03-12 16:39:45 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Beta target date 1 is Tuesday. I'll be attending the Go/No-Go meeting tomorrow at 1700 UTC
2025-03-12 16:40:19 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> even before that we should probably stage some updates to `next-devel` and maybe even go ahead and re-enable it early 
2025-03-12 16:40:46 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> once it's `GO` its a bit of a race to get everything in line 
2025-03-12 16:41:37 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1851
2025-03-12 16:41:37 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Sounds good. I can start the next few steps to stage next-devel
2025-03-12 16:43:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> Sounds good then. Thanks marmijo 
2025-03-12 16:43:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> Let's move to the Test Week planning then
2025-03-12 16:44:05 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic tracker: F42 Test Week
2025-03-12 16:44:10 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1885
2025-03-12 16:45:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> So for the test week, we need the beta to be out, and ideally we do it before the final freeze
2025-03-12 16:46:32 <@siosm:matrix.org> Right now that means the week of the 24th-28th or 31rst-4th
2025-03-12 16:47:05 <@siosm:matrix.org> The CoreOS team will be busy meeting the first week, but the second week in KubeCon EU, so folks may be busy as well
2025-03-12 16:47:19 <@siosm:matrix.org> The CoreOS team will be busy meeting the first week, but the second week is KubeCon EU, so folks may be busy as well
2025-03-12 16:49:43 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I'm ok either way - we could do later in the week of the 24th or first of the following week
2025-03-12 16:50:48 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Wow, that's a lot going on for the team! I agree, or we can split it between the weeks
2025-03-12 16:51:35 <@siosm:matrix.org> Should we vote?
2025-03-12 16:51:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> or we pan for 24th-28th and we push back if the beta is pushed back?
2025-03-12 16:52:26 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> does anyone have a strong preference? 
2025-03-12 16:53:05 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> I’m also ok either way.
2025-03-12 16:53:28 <@siosm:matrix.org> Maybe the actual test day should be the 26th to not clash with meetings but we keep the whole week open as always
2025-03-12 16:53:38 <@siosm:matrix.org> (and folks can always test another day))
2025-03-12 16:53:43 <@siosm:matrix.org> (and folks can always test another day)
2025-03-12 16:55:28 <@siosm:matrix.org> !proposed: Setup the test week from 24th to 28th of March, the test day on the 26th of March. If the beta is pushed back, we will push back the test week as well.
2025-03-12 16:55:45 <@marmijo:fedora.im> +1
2025-03-12 16:56:14 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> +1
2025-03-12 16:58:07 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> sounds good. that also gives us a chance to spin another `next` if we want to work any more kinks out if there are kinks 
2025-03-12 16:58:17 <@siosm:matrix.org> (+1 from me). Are you good apiaseck for the next steps?
2025-03-12 17:00:21 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> Yes, I pinged Summantro already, awaiting he’s replyy
2025-03-12 17:01:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> !agreed: Setup the test week from 24th to 28th of March, the test day on the 26th of March. If the beta is pushed back, we will push back the test week as well.
2025-03-12 17:02:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> !agreed Setup the test week from 24th to 28th of March, the test day on the 26th of March. If the beta is pushed back, we will push back the test week as well.
2025-03-12 17:02:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> Does anyone has something else to bring up before we go to open floor?
2025-03-12 17:04:28 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> If you think of test cases for the OCI migration let me know ! 
2025-03-12 17:05:03 <@jdoss:beeper.com> Review my PR Dusty!
2025-03-12 17:05:14 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> let's make sure we test rolling back and then forward again (i.e. making sure the state machine doesn't get out of whack) 
2025-03-12 17:05:31 <@jdoss:beeper.com> sorry I thought were in open floor.
2025-03-12 17:05:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic OCI migration
2025-03-12 17:06:00 <@siosm:matrix.org> (you can link to your PR right after that :))
2025-03-12 17:06:14 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/zincati/pull/1273#issuecomment-2717716938
2025-03-12 17:06:24 <@siosm:matrix.org> jbtrystram is working on the migration to OCI
2025-03-12 17:06:40 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1823
2025-03-12 17:07:29 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> dustymabe: i will test that
2025-03-12 17:08:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> If folks think of corner cases to test, please send them his way :)
2025-03-12 17:08:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> for example if someone goes through the migration, but then rolls back.. should that system follow OCI updates or OSTree ?
2025-03-12 17:08:33 <@hricky:fedora.im> Is there already a description of how to test OCI migration?
2025-03-12 17:09:12 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> if you neuter the migration script, ostree, if not, it will try to migrate again I suppose. i will test
2025-03-12 17:10:03 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> currenlty it's quite involved but we will document everything and ship the tools with the F42 rebase 
2025-03-12 17:10:41 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> existing nodes won't migrate until a few releases after 
2025-03-12 17:12:07 <@siosm:matrix.org> If you can post a short summary (i.e. not the full commands) of what's needed to test, maybe some brave souls will give it a try :)
2025-03-12 17:13:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> Alright, let's move to open floor
2025-03-12 17:13:08 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> it will be easier to test after the next release :) 
2025-03-12 17:13:22 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> even if Beta doesn't ship next tuesday we're going to ship the updated zincati 
2025-03-12 17:13:30 <@jdoss:beeper.com> Review my PR Dusty https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/pull/1165
2025-03-12 17:13:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor
2025-03-12 17:14:04 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I've been planning on it, but have been busy with family stuff this week
2025-03-12 17:14:30 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Will do
2025-03-12 17:15:18 <@jdoss:beeper.com> All good. I don't know what it takes for Ignition and Afterburn releases and then for them to make into FCOS Next but I'd like these changes into Next so I can start using FCOS on proxmox without building a custom image.
2025-03-12 17:16:32 <@siosm:matrix.org> I can be fairly quick once the PR is merged. I haven't had the time to catch up on this topic either.
2025-03-12 17:18:00 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I can do a review of the PR while dusty is OOO, but I'd also like others to review it
2025-03-12 17:18:52 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> we need to review those changes carefully to adjust at some point
2025-03-12 17:18:52 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Jonathan Lebon: travier: FYI too. We've got a bit of a ticking time bomb in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/3376
2025-03-12 17:18:52 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 
2025-03-12 17:19:55 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ahh yes. thanks for bringing that up
2025-03-12 17:20:28 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i don't think the necessary changes are significant. just some renames happened
2025-03-12 17:20:44 <@jlebon:fedora.im> will take a look this week
2025-03-12 17:20:54 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 👍️
2025-03-12 17:20:57 <@jlebon:fedora.im> it'd be nice actually if the PR linked to the diff in gitlab
2025-03-12 17:21:12 <@siosm:matrix.org> It can be fairly quick once the PR is merged. I haven't had the time to catch up on this topic either.
2025-03-12 17:22:08 <@siosm:matrix.org> marmijo: If you can give it a try in a proxmox setup that would be great!
2025-03-12 17:22:22 <@siosm:matrix.org> Not sure what it would take for us to get / setup one for testing
2025-03-12 17:22:35 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I can definitely do that
2025-03-12 17:24:10 <@siosm:matrix.org> Will close this meeting at :25 if nothing else needs to be discussed
2025-03-12 17:24:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Renata Ravanelli: before the test day it would be great if we could get this PR merged: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-docs/pull/711
2025-03-12 17:24:41 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> or if anyone else is able to test on applehv
2025-03-12 17:25:31 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> I need to finish other stuff around to get this one. But I will try to
2025-03-12 17:28:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> Alright, closing
2025-03-12 17:28:59 <@siosm:matrix.org> !endmeeting