2024-03-14 14:04:27 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting
2024-03-14 14:04:28 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-14 14:04:27 UTC
2024-03-14 14:04:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_cloud_meeting'
2024-03-14 14:04:49 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic roll call
2024-03-14 14:05:27 <@jcline:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-14 14:05:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jeremy Cline (jcline) - he / him / his
2024-03-14 14:06:16 <@davdunc:fedora.im> hey Jeremy
2024-03-14 14:06:28 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I was just telling Sandeep how much help you have been already. 
2024-03-14 14:06:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I can't wait until Noah is over there with you. 
2024-03-14 14:07:23 <@jcline:fedora.im> Oh nice. Yeah, it should be good!
2024-03-14 14:07:56 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. 
2024-03-14 14:08:15 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic Action items from last meeting
2024-03-14 14:08:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-03-14 14:08:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-03-14 14:08:37 <@davdunc:fedora.im> 👋 Hey Conan Kudo 
2024-03-14 14:08:56 <@davdunc:fedora.im> ACTION: @davdunc and Jeremy Cline to work on #399 Upload Images to Azure Marketplace
2024-03-14 14:09:46 <@davdunc:fedora.im> so... I got stuck this week dealing with _emergency_ manager requirements (for someone's definition of emergency level metrics requirements) 
2024-03-14 14:10:07 <@davdunc:fedora.im> but I am super willing to dedicate Friday to this effort and get it done. 
2024-03-14 14:10:28 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-03-14 14:10:31 <@jcline:fedora.im> I'm available all day Friday so whenever works for you works for me
2024-03-14 14:10:31 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> morning folks
2024-03-14 14:10:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-03-14 14:10:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I also promised Sandeep a blog on Monday. 
2024-03-14 14:10:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon! 👋
2024-03-14 14:10:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Mmm, I need to close out all our tickets around the image building stuff
2024-03-14 14:10:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> so ... it has to be done. 
2024-03-14 14:11:00 <@jcline:fedora.im> I did notice this morning that the little playbook in https://gist.github.com/jeremycline/15dd5ae6d476f8ce886e6788d228eea8 doesn't account for architecture and that's missing in the azure ansible collection, so I'll submit a PR for that shortly
2024-03-14 14:11:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks Jeremy Cline ! 
2024-03-14 14:11:32 <@davdunc:fedora.im> appreciate you working on that. 
2024-03-14 14:12:30 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> is this the same Sandeep I meet with monthly? from the community gallery team?
2024-03-14 14:12:39 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: yes. 
2024-03-14 14:12:41 <@davdunc:fedora.im> same one. 
2024-03-14 14:12:43 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nice :D 
2024-03-14 14:13:01 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i'm happy to review/edit/etc your blog
2024-03-14 14:13:16 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: expect to get it on Monday or before. 
2024-03-14 14:14:07 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll post it out for general review. I need to coordinate with Brian Stinson on the Centos side too. 
2024-03-14 14:14:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> pretend like Centos is an abbreviation for Centos-Stream. 
2024-03-14 14:15:23 <@davdunc:fedora.im> on Building a test plan for images. Any progress there Neil? 
2024-03-14 14:15:37 <@davdunc:fedora.im> or do you need me to give you an image . . :) 
2024-03-14 14:16:07 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> :D I've made some progress on the xcp-ng image stuff for that piece, have started on a draft for the test plan, too
2024-03-14 14:16:15 <@davdunc:fedora.im> awesome. 
2024-03-14 14:16:21 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am going to reaction us both. 
2024-03-14 14:16:44 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action @davdunc and Jeremy Cline to work on #399 Upload Images to Azure Marketplace
2024-03-14 14:17:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/399
2024-03-14 14:17:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action Neil Hanlon to provide details for building the test plan for images.
2024-03-14 14:17:43 <@davdunc:fedora.im> oka. 
2024-03-14 14:17:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> ...y
2024-03-14 14:17:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic kiwi support for image builds 
2024-03-14 14:18:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's all done now
2024-03-14 14:18:31 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Conan Kudo++ wow! so much work you did this week with nirik and adamw 
2024-03-14 14:18:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> davdunc has already given cookies to ngompa during the F39 timeframe
2024-03-14 14:18:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> there are some quirks we will probably need to address, but it's otherwise done
2024-03-14 14:18:40 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thank you all for the effort. 
2024-03-14 14:18:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> nirik++
2024-03-14 14:18:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> davdunc gave a cookie to kevin. They now have 655 cookies, 18 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-14 14:18:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I've already discovered a few problems that we need to followup on
2024-03-14 14:18:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> adamw++
2024-03-14 14:18:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> davdunc gave a cookie to adamwill. They now have 239 cookies, 10 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-14 14:19:03 <@davdunc:fedora.im> awesome. 
2024-03-14 14:20:13 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am truly grateful for all of the effort you put into this Conan Kudo and we wouldn't be killing imagefactory (the oooold project) in our work if it wasn't for all that hard work. 
2024-03-14 14:20:20 <@davdunc:fedora.im> so thank you! 
2024-03-14 14:20:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes, now we have a method where anyone can build images anywhere
2024-03-14 14:20:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> reliably
2024-03-14 14:20:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and our own work to evolve our images will be _far_ less painful
2024-03-14 14:20:57 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yeah thanks for working on it, conan
2024-03-14 14:20:59 <@davdunc:fedora.im> and schaefi's work on the s390x too. 
2024-03-14 14:21:14 <@davdunc:fedora.im> that was awesome. 
2024-03-14 14:21:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> neil has already given cookies to ngompa during the F39 timeframe
2024-03-14 14:21:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the scope of the changes also means that we will be able to decommission ImageFactory completely at the end of the F41 cycle
2024-03-14 14:21:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> since F39 EOLs a month after F41 GA
2024-03-14 14:21:52 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I mean! How great is that!? 
2024-03-14 14:22:28 <@davdunc:fedora.im> only Kevin knows probably. :) 
2024-03-14 14:22:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the next step is to prepare communications to all the remaining users of ImageFactory in the community and give them their options for migration: Lorax, KIWI, or OSBuild
2024-03-14 14:22:59 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. 
2024-03-14 14:23:11 <@davdunc:fedora.im> That's definitely what we need to do. 
2024-03-14 14:23:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> because we _are_ pulling the plug in F41
2024-03-14 14:23:35 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to add ELN definition and upload for the ELN team. 
2024-03-14 14:23:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I need to make that happen asap as well. 
2024-03-14 14:24:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> making an ELN image in kiwi shouldn't be too difficult
2024-03-14 14:24:26 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I don't think so at all. 
2024-03-14 14:24:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> in fact, it should just automatically work with the existing rawhide definitions once we get some options plumbed into the koji plugin
2024-03-14 14:24:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> perfect. 
2024-03-14 14:25:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we'll need to add an image definition that does not use btrfs because the ELN kernel does not include it at this time
2024-03-14 14:25:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but that should be pretty simple to do
2024-03-14 14:25:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> right.
2024-03-14 14:26:14 <@davdunc:fedora.im> For sure do not want to deviate from the expectations of the ELN group because I think that parity with the downstream is critical. 
2024-03-14 14:26:45 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't think there's too much in terms of deviation
2024-03-14 14:26:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but it should be straightforward to handle...
2024-03-14 14:27:16 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I just don't want to make them have to ask for changes. 
2024-03-14 14:27:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll get you to help me make the definitions Conan Kudo, but I don't want it to be a responsibility for you. 
2024-03-14 14:28:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> sounds good
2024-03-14 14:28:07 <@davdunc:fedora.im> you have enough things to complete. 
2024-03-14 14:29:03 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KiwiBuiltCloudImages
2024-03-14 14:29:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I did close out a chunk of tickets that were completed with this change
2024-03-14 14:29:29 <@davdunc:fedora.im> what else do we need to do broad stroke for this to be completed? 
2024-03-14 14:29:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> testing and validation of the new images
2024-03-14 14:30:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and probably working with adamw to update all the random things to know about the new images
2024-03-14 14:30:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> because most of them have slightly different names now
2024-03-14 14:30:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and the releng stuff for the container images needs updating too
2024-03-14 14:30:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so really, I would like some of the folks here to work with adamw and nirik to finish that stuff
2024-03-14 14:31:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> got it. 
2024-03-14 14:31:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I've been in high-energy mode for two weeks on this and I'm now at SCaLE 😅
2024-03-14 14:31:34 <@davdunc:fedora.im>  if anyone has time to give to these efforts, we would appreciate it. 
2024-03-14 14:31:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so I can't really dedicate too much time right now
2024-03-14 14:31:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Also, Conan Kudo can't scale while he's at SCaLE
2024-03-14 14:32:01 <@davdunc:fedora.im> unless we help. 
2024-03-14 14:32:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yup 😆
2024-03-14 14:32:30 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Glad you are attending! 
2024-03-14 14:32:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'll write up a ticket with the leftover bits that I need people to help do
2024-03-14 14:33:02 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks Conan Kudo 
2024-03-14 14:33:03 <@jcline:fedora.im> Super, I can likely dedicate some time to it
2024-03-14 14:33:26 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> also, I'm going to transfer the WSL ticket to Jeremy Cline and write up what is actually needed for it
2024-03-14 14:33:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I just am not going to be able to work on it anymore
2024-03-14 14:33:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> stretched too much
2024-03-14 14:33:50 <@jcline:fedora.im> 👍️
2024-03-14 14:33:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> that's reasonable. Jeremy Cline if you need anything on that, let me know. 
2024-03-14 14:33:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the "hard" parts are done anywya
2024-03-14 14:34:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> *anyway
2024-03-14 14:34:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and I'm happy to review things, of course :)
2024-03-14 14:34:22 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am so excited! 
2024-03-14 14:34:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I will also note we now will have AArch64 images for _all_ clouds we support.
2024-03-14 14:35:34 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> And we have learned this cycle that Fedora Cloud produces POWER and Z cloud images
2024-03-14 14:35:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so uhh... yeah
2024-03-14 14:35:59 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info for F40 we will have aarch64 images for all clouds we support
2024-03-14 14:36:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info don't forget that we produce POWER and Z cloud images in the future. 
2024-03-14 14:36:54 <@davdunc:fedora.im> alright. 
2024-03-14 14:37:05 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !info Fedora Cloud now owns Fedora Container base images.
2024-03-14 14:37:21 <@davdunc:fedora.im> that is such great news. 
2024-03-14 14:37:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> niiice
2024-03-14 14:37:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !info Fedora Cloud now owns the Fedora Toolbox image.
2024-03-14 14:38:07 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. We are going to have to jump on another really important topic. 
2024-03-14 14:38:26 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic building proper documentation for the Cloud Edition and related projects
2024-03-14 14:38:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Yes.
2024-03-14 14:38:39 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we need an owner for documentation. 
2024-03-14 14:38:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> This is part of the promise for the kiwi change, we have committed to having our artifacts fully documented.
2024-03-14 14:39:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> And I need a lesson in building documentation. 
2024-03-14 14:39:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I haven't just jumped in here because I am not sure where/how to build it. 
2024-03-14 14:40:27 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I know it's going to be something super simple when I get into it, but I don't have time to experiment. I just need an injection. 
2024-03-14 14:40:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> do we have an existing docs site?
2024-03-14 14:41:05 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> huh, we don't
2024-03-14 14:41:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> okay that needs fixing
2024-03-14 14:41:09 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we have a wiki. 
2024-03-14 14:41:14 <@davdunc:fedora.im> exactly. 
2024-03-14 14:41:17 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> there's a doc for that! https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-docs/contributing-docs/contrib-new-documentation/#_publish_a_new_documentation_module
2024-03-14 14:41:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> well ... wunderbar. 
2024-03-14 14:41:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Fedora KDE and Fedora Asahi have both done it recently, so you can ask travier or Davide Cavalca about it
2024-03-14 14:42:03 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I am not sure if I have access to make a project in the Fedora namespace, but I could attempt the bootstrapping task
2024-03-14 14:42:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: we'll figure out how to make sure you have access. 
2024-03-14 14:42:33 <@davdunc:fedora.im> that part can't be too difficult either. 
2024-03-14 14:42:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> perfect. 
2024-03-14 14:43:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we have the fedora-cloud pagure group that we can put it under as well
2024-03-14 14:43:01 <@davdunc:fedora.im> when Davide wakes up ... :) 
2024-03-14 14:43:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yes. 
2024-03-14 14:43:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> he's here at SCaLE too :)
2024-03-14 14:43:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I wish I had made that a priority this year. 
2024-03-14 14:43:49 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I was supposed to go, but life got in the way
2024-03-14 14:44:01 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yea. it will do that. Adulting is hard. 
2024-03-14 14:44:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. So we kind of have a plan here, I think. 
2024-03-14 14:44:43 <@davide:cavalca.name> Yeah that doc is what I followed 
2024-03-14 14:44:55 <@davide:cavalca.name> You can host it anywhere, it doesn't have to be on gitlab
2024-03-14 14:45:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon I would prefer that we host it in pagure for now. 
2024-03-14 14:45:30 <@davide:cavalca.name> https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/docs-fp-o/-/merge_requests/15 is an example to get it added
2024-03-14 14:45:30 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 👍️ ack
2024-03-14 14:45:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I can initialize an empty repo
2024-03-14 14:45:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> along with everything else. It's just easier for us as a group. 
2024-03-14 14:45:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: perfect! 
2024-03-14 14:46:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I can fork an empty repo! ;) 
2024-03-14 14:46:23 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> :D 
2024-03-14 14:47:12 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I think that there was a session in the Content Creator Summit on the documentation as well. 
2024-03-14 14:47:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> https://pagure.io/fedora-cloud/docs-site
2024-03-14 14:47:31 <@davdunc:fedora.im> And there have been some "introductory tools" workshops as of late as well. 
2024-03-14 14:47:41 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I think that Justin W. Flory (he/him) was helping with them. 
2024-03-14 14:47:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> here's something to start from if you want example structure: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/docs-site
2024-03-14 14:47:51 <@davdunc:fedora.im> perfect. 
2024-03-14 14:48:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ah, for the Docs Team?
2024-03-14 14:48:44 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we're talking about documentation for Cloud yes. 
2024-03-14 14:49:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yea you were working with others on a workshop for the docs team, right Justin W. Flory (he/him) ? 
2024-03-14 14:49:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> https://peertube.linuxrocks.online/w/eyokDvgq8BwjHSo27etsWK
2024-03-14 14:49:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yay! 
2024-03-14 14:49:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The Docs Team does monthly workshops on different topics.
2024-03-14 14:49:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I did the last one in February on a CLI-based workflow for docs.
2024-03-14 14:49:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is going up to the Fedora YouTube as well soon.
2024-03-14 14:49:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> well now. we will have to invite ourselves to the show. 
2024-03-14 14:49:50 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> what do we want the 'slug' to be for docs.fp.o, when we get there? just "cloud" ?

it seems there is a mix of 'fedora-<project>' and just '<project>'
2024-03-14 14:50:08 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> is there a standard Justin W. Flory (he/him) ?
2024-03-14 14:50:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think Hank and Peter Boy are always looking for new volunteers for workshops :) #docs:fedoraproject.org is the best place to reach the both of them.
2024-03-14 14:50:33 <@davdunc:fedora.im> gotcha. 
2024-03-14 14:50:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> A bit of a standard format, but not a standard way of delivering the topics. It depends on the speaker.
2024-03-14 14:51:01 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we'll invite them into the cloud channel and get there help. 
2024-03-14 14:51:07 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> oh, sorry. i meant a standard for naming the docs when they're on docs.fp.o
2024-03-14 14:51:12 <@davdunc:fedora.im> their*
2024-03-14 14:51:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh! Not really, I guess. docs.fp.o/cloud seems fine to me :)
2024-03-14 14:51:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks for the bootstrap Justin W. Flory (he/him) !
2024-03-14 14:51:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yep 💪
2024-03-14 14:51:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> neil gave a cookie to jflory7. They now have 341 cookies, 17 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-14 14:51:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Nom nom nom 😋
2024-03-14 14:52:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> davdunc gave a cookie to jflory7. They now have 342 cookies, 18 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-14 14:52:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jcline gave a cookie to jflory7. They now have 343 cookies, 19 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-14 14:52:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> davdunc has already given cookies to neil during the F39 timeframe
2024-03-14 14:52:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. that came together fast! 
2024-03-14 14:52:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am so happy right now. 
2024-03-14 14:53:03 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we are on a roll. 
2024-03-14 14:53:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ngompa gave a cookie to jflory7. They now have 344 cookies, 20 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-14 14:53:21 <@davdunc:fedora.im> These are the two big topics we have for this week. 
2024-03-14 14:53:31 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic open floor
2024-03-14 14:54:05 <@davdunc:fedora.im> anyone want to discuss anything additional? 
2024-03-14 14:54:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> or did we forget anything? 
2024-03-14 14:54:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Oracle Cloud and KubeVirt :)
2024-03-14 14:54:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> The OpenShift people asked us for a KubeVirt image ages ago
2024-03-14 14:54:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> well. . . is there anything stopping us from creating the images? 
2024-03-14 14:54:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> nope
2024-03-14 14:55:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we just need to know what it needs to look like
2024-03-14 14:55:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. 
2024-03-14 14:55:19 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll work on that definition for kiwi. 
2024-03-14 14:55:45 <@davdunc:fedora.im> for the kubevirt and get some help from dustymabe since I am sure he is building an FCOS for them 
2024-03-14 14:56:20 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to build kiwi definition for kubevirt image
2024-03-14 14:56:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/381
2024-03-14 14:56:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to build kiwi definition for Oracle image
2024-03-14 14:56:46 <@davdunc:fedora.im> aha. 
2024-03-14 14:56:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we already have an Oracle image :)
2024-03-14 14:56:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the Generic image is sufficient for now
2024-03-14 14:56:59 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !revert
2024-03-14 14:57:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we just need to be able to upload it to OCI
2024-03-14 14:57:24 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> there are some intricacies with oracle cloud shapes fwiw
2024-03-14 14:57:41 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> specifically to have an image that works on baremetal _and_ virtual machines
2024-03-14 14:57:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so like AWS
2024-03-14 14:57:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> well now. . . Neil Hanlon I will definitely ask you for help there then. 
2024-03-14 14:58:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> though admittedly we didn't address AWS Metal this cycle
2024-03-14 14:58:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it is something we need to look at
2024-03-14 14:58:19 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i'm definitely open to a better way to do it, because I ripped off how oracle linux does it and... yeah
2024-03-14 14:58:43 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> https://git.resf.org/sig_core/kickstarts/src/branch/r9/Rocky-9-OCP-Base.ks#L341-L359
2024-03-14 14:58:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> there's a dummy Oracle definition that just invokes the Generic definition already
2024-03-14 14:58:48 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 🙊
2024-03-14 14:58:56 <@davdunc:fedora.im> haha. 
2024-03-14 14:59:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> oh oof
2024-03-14 14:59:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we can do better than that, I hope
2024-03-14 14:59:23 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we are friends. Come on! 
2024-03-14 14:59:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> it was a quick hack, so.. yeah, for sure :D 
2024-03-14 14:59:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I mean we don't have the kickstart restrictions anymore
2024-03-14 14:59:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> if we can, then we better make a PR for the folks at Rocky. :) 
2024-03-14 14:59:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Neil will do that for us. 
2024-03-14 15:00:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> most likely the portable fix is to package it up as RPMs
2024-03-14 15:00:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> then any image build tool can include it easily
2024-03-14 15:00:18 <@davdunc:fedora.im> awesome, so Neil, you can help me write the uploader? 
2024-03-14 15:00:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to write the ansible uploader for the oracle images and register. 
2024-03-14 15:01:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> before I forget, we are probably going to need to talk to kiwi upstream to add support for kubevirt container disks
2024-03-14 15:01:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that subformat doesn't exist yet
2024-03-14 15:01:14 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> there are also some packages that might be helpful .. same as aws w/ agents, basically.
2024-03-14 15:01:43 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action work with the kiwi community to include a definition for kubevirt. 
2024-03-14 15:01:45 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i began looking at this a while ago here https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/neil/oci-utils/
2024-03-14 15:01:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> perfect! 
2024-03-14 15:02:05 <@davdunc:fedora.im> probably need that for the ansible. 
2024-03-14 15:02:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. 
2024-03-14 15:02:40 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we are over time. 
2024-03-14 15:02:49 <@davdunc:fedora.im> final thoughts? 
2024-03-14 15:03:06 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/neil/oci-utils/
2024-03-14 15:03:19 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Thanks everyone for being here and participating. 
2024-03-14 15:03:25 <@davdunc:fedora.im> This has been a great meeting. 
2024-03-14 15:03:31 <@jcline:fedora.im> Thanks for running things!
2024-03-14 15:03:35 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Indeed! Great to speak to y'all.
2024-03-14 15:03:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> have a good time at SCaLE Conan Kudo, Davide Cavalca , others :) 
2024-03-14 15:03:58 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !endmeeting