2024-03-13 16:34:16 <@siosm:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2024-03-13 16:34:19 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-13 16:34:16 UTC
2024-03-13 16:34:19 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2024-03-13 16:34:21 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2024-03-13 16:34:59 <@jmarrero:matrix.org> .hi
2024-03-13 16:35:03 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-13 16:35:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon)
2024-03-13 16:35:10 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> !hi aaradhak
2024-03-13 16:35:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
2024-03-13 16:35:18 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !hi gursewak
2024-03-13 16:35:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
2024-03-13 16:35:23 <@jmarrero:matrix.org> .hello jmarrero
2024-03-13 16:35:26 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> !hi
2024-03-13 16:35:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 16:35:44 <@jmarrero:matrix.org> !hello jmarrero
2024-03-13 16:35:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Joseph Marrero (jmarrero)
2024-03-13 16:36:14 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-13 16:36:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Armijo (marmijo)
2024-03-13 16:36:16 <@siosm:matrix.org> !hello
2024-03-13 16:36:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 16:36:36 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> .hi
2024-03-13 16:37:16 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
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2024-03-13 16:37:36 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi jbtrystram
2024-03-13 16:37:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 16:38:09 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting
2024-03-13 16:38:18 <@siosm:matrix.org> Looking for the previous meeting notes
2024-03-13 16:38:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2024-03-06/107271
2024-03-13 16:38:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> fifofonix to bring up a 1.28 cluster with zswap
2024-03-13 16:39:03 <@siosm:matrix.org> fifofonix: Any updates on that item?
2024-03-13 16:40:38 <@siosm:matrix.org> ok, let's re-action it and we'll see later
2024-03-13 16:40:44 <@siosm:matrix.org> !action fifofonix to bring up a 1.28 cluster with zswap
2024-03-13 16:41:35 <@siosm:matrix.org> From https://github.com/coreos/fcos-meeting-action/issues/75, we have a lot of topics today. Which ones are most important?
2024-03-13 16:42:26 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ahh nice. lots of choices :)
2024-03-13 16:42:46 <@jlebon:fedora.im> maybe the test week one first since that one has a timeline to it?
2024-03-13 16:43:00 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic F40 FCOS Test Week on March 25
2024-03-13 16:43:10 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1685

2024-03-13 16:44:44 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> We have to make a change in the Fedora test week after a discussion last week. The test week is now scheduled to happen in the week of March 25
2024-03-13 16:45:18 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> The podman test week is scheduled to happen around the week of March 18. FCOS will overlap on Podman5 and Podman desktop. To avoid any regression related issue, we decided to move the test week to March 25.
2024-03-13 16:45:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> Do we already have podman 5 in next?
2024-03-13 16:46:28 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> We have decided to make a change in the Fedora test week after a discussion last week. The test week is now scheduled to happen in the week of March 25
2024-03-13 16:47:13 <@siosm:matrix.org> Do folks organizing the test week feel ready?
2024-03-13 16:47:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> (if they could assign themselves to the issue that would be great for tracking)
2024-03-13 16:47:52 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Fedora 40 Beta was No-Go last week. Pushing out the earliest beta target to March 19. There's another meeting tomorrow to determine if F40 beta will be Go/No-Go for that date
2024-03-13 16:47:58 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> I added some bits in the docs regarding iSCSI so it's ready to be tested :) 
2024-03-13 16:49:45 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ash: hmm, the text in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1686 doesn't look like the latest version?
2024-03-13 16:49:55 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> We have to find volunteers for the test week especially to carry the tests on different platforms. That is a task in hand
2024-03-13 16:50:48 <@jlebon:fedora.im> travier: next is still on f39. podman v5 is in branched, so it'll be in next once we rebase it to f40
2024-03-13 16:51:12 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Its in the hackmd that we have noted down so far : https://hackmd.io/nhLcXDbZTcWTzkvQAcUwtA
2024-03-13 16:51:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> Hackmd are always temporary and should be synced back to issues as much as possible
2024-03-13 16:52:15 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ash: sorry if i didn't make that clear
2024-03-13 16:53:34 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> no, its just that I thought of adding the contents from hackmd to the TO-DO list list later. I ll add it right away
2024-03-13 16:53:48 <@siosm:matrix.org> Can we let you three ash apiaseck jbtrystram handle the preparation for the test week?
2024-03-13 16:54:02 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> works for me
2024-03-13 16:54:08 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> I'm up for it.
2024-03-13 16:54:21 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Yes!it works with me.
2024-03-13 16:54:25 <@jlebon:fedora.im> sumantro has created new pages for the new test cases, but they might need tweaking
2024-03-13 16:54:40 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i wouldn't worry about the "carried over" items in the todo list
2024-03-13 16:55:11 <@siosm:matrix.org> Great, I'll assign the issue to you all. Anything else we should talk about for this topic?
2024-03-13 16:55:55 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> Nothing else from me
2024-03-13 16:56:27 <@marmijo:fedora.im> nothing here
2024-03-13 16:56:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> alright, let's move to the next one.
2024-03-13 16:57:33 <@siosm:matrix.org> any priority?
2024-03-13 16:58:09 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Give coreos Fedora group co-maintainership of all CoreOS-related packages in Fedora
2024-03-13 16:58:13 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1631
2024-03-13 16:58:21 <@siosm:matrix.org> This one should be a short one
2024-03-13 16:59:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> The idea is to centralize the access management to repos for packages that we maintain
2024-03-13 17:00:15 <@siosm:matrix.org> Option A is to re-use the coreos group to grant commit access to everyone in the group and add folks doing package management be part of this group
2024-03-13 17:00:37 <@siosm:matrix.org> Option B is to create another group for commit access only and grant members of the coreos group admin access
2024-03-13 17:01:32 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> it feels a bit working around the "open source community" aspect of becoming a fedora packager 
2024-03-13 17:02:34 <@jlebon:fedora.im> everyone still needs to go through the new packager flow
2024-03-13 17:02:34 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> i.e. you have to contribute something, find someone willing to sponsor you .. rather than "i'm part of X team and that grants me things"
2024-03-13 17:02:35 <@siosm:matrix.org> how so?
2024-03-13 17:02:47 <@jlebon:fedora.im> this would just make it easier to manage our own packages
2024-03-13 17:02:53 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> but it already works like that for the GH repos so that would be aligning stuff 
2024-03-13 17:03:30 <@siosm:matrix.org> We will still expect people to do pull request for changes and get reviews
2024-03-13 17:04:18 <@siosm:matrix.org> You still have to be sponsored into the packager group
2024-03-13 17:05:10 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> ah ok, I didn't realise that. ignore what I typed then ! 
2024-03-13 17:05:43 <@siosm:matrix.org> Any preference for option A or B?
2024-03-13 17:05:55 <@jlebon:fedora.im> option B makes sense to me
2024-03-13 17:06:19 <@jlebon:fedora.im> there's also *a lot* of Rust packages we technically currently own as they are deps of some of our Rust-based upstream projects
2024-03-13 17:06:30 <@jlebon:fedora.im> currently, i'm the admin for all of them (inherited from Benjamin)
2024-03-13 17:06:39 <@jlebon:fedora.im> so spreading that better would be good indeed
2024-03-13 17:07:19 <@siosm:matrix.org> yeah, this is mostly my concern around having a single person have the admin permissions and then we have troubles when we need to fix things
2024-03-13 17:07:33 <@siosm:matrix.org> managing groups can happen independently
2024-03-13 17:08:49 <@jlebon:fedora.im> I think also the current coreos group is just used for calendar perms, which is to say, not much
2024-03-13 17:08:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> Any concerns regarding option B? I'll make a proposed
2024-03-13 17:10:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> proposed: We well create a coreos-packager group with commit access to packages maintained by the group and use the coreos group for admin access to those same packages.
2024-03-13 17:10:48 <@marmijo:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 17:11:10 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> +1 but "we will" :) 
2024-03-13 17:11:11 <@jmarrero:matrix.org> Option B +
2024-03-13 17:11:16 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ack
2024-03-13 17:11:48 <@siosm:matrix.org> proposed: We will create a coreos-packager group with commit access to packages maintained by the group and use the coreos group for admin access to those same packages.
2024-03-13 17:11:59 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> +1
2024-03-13 17:12:43 <@siosm:matrix.org> !agreed We will create a coreos-packager group with commit access to packages maintained by the group and use the coreos group for admin access to those same packages
2024-03-13 17:13:15 <@siosm:matrix.org> Do we have time for another one? Not sure
2024-03-13 17:13:44 <@jlebon:fedora.im> would be good to have Dusty too for the others anyway
2024-03-13 17:14:07 <@jlebon:fedora.im> maybe just open floor?
2024-03-13 17:14:18 <@siosm:matrix.org> OK, so let's move to open discussion
2024-03-13 17:14:29 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor
2024-03-13 17:15:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> I've updated the dates for the upcoming meetings in https://hackmd.io/OSVZR5vETkmKuA9A_KAzUg
I've subscribed folks that already ran previous meeting to run upcoming ones again. Feel free to adjust.
We also appreciate having new volunteers running meeting!
2024-03-13 17:16:05 <@siosm:matrix.org> Don't be like me! Mark your next meeting in your calendar so that you don't forget 😅
2024-03-13 17:16:44 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> could we pin this doc at the top of the CoreOS matrix room ?
2024-03-13 17:17:23 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i didn't even know Matrix supported that. cool
2024-03-13 17:17:41 <@siosm:matrix.org> I'm not an admin there so I'll have to ask Dusty or ask to be made admin
2024-03-13 17:18:10 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> Jonathan Lebon: i am not sure it does. Just asking 
2024-03-13 17:18:35 <@jlebon:fedora.im> it does. you have to click on the channel name at the top and then "Pinned" (at least in the web UI)
2024-03-13 17:21:39 <@jlebon:fedora.im> it looks like change proposals for f41 are open. travier should we work together on submitting something for the scriptlet thing?
2024-03-13 17:22:53 <@siosm:matrix.org> That would be good yes
2024-03-13 17:26:18 <@jlebon:fedora.im> travier: i think we can close this?
2024-03-13 17:26:34 <@siosm:matrix.org> yes, if there is nothing else, let's close this meeting
2024-03-13 17:26:47 <@siosm:matrix.org> !endmeeting