fedora-coreos-meeting
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<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:34:16
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:34:19
Meeting started at 2024-03-13 16:34:16 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:34:19
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:34:21
!topic roll call
<@jmarrero:matrix.org>
16:34:59
.hi
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:35:03
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:35:04
None (jlebon)
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:35:10
!hi aaradhak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:35:12
Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:35:18
!hi gursewak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:35:20
Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
<@jmarrero:matrix.org>
16:35:23
.hello jmarrero
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:35:26
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:35:28
Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
<@jmarrero:matrix.org>
16:35:44
!hello jmarrero
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:35:45
Joseph Marrero (jmarrero)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:36:14
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:36:15
Michael Armijo (marmijo)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:36:16
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:36:18
Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
<@ravanelli:matrix.org>
16:36:36
.hi
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:37:16
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:37:17
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<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:37:36
!hi jbtrystram
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:37:38
Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:38:09
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:38:18
Looking for the previous meeting notes
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:38:37
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:38:51
fifofonix to bring up a 1.28 cluster with zswap
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:39:03
fifofonix: Any updates on that item?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:38
ok, let's re-action it and we'll see later
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:40:44
!action fifofonix to bring up a 1.28 cluster with zswap
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:41:35
From https://github.com/coreos/fcos-meeting-action/issues/75, we have a lot of topics today. Which ones are most important?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:42:26
ahh nice. lots of choices :)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:42:46
maybe the test week one first since that one has a timeline to it?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:00
!topic F40 FCOS Test Week on March 25
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:10
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:44:44
We have to make a change in the Fedora test week after a discussion last week. The test week is now scheduled to happen in the week of March 25
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:45:18
The podman test week is scheduled to happen around the week of March 18. FCOS will overlap on Podman5 and Podman desktop. To avoid any regression related issue, we decided to move the test week to March 25.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:45:54
Do we already have podman 5 in next?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:46:28
We have decided to make a change in the Fedora test week after a discussion last week. The test week is now scheduled to happen in the week of March 25
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:13
Do folks organizing the test week feel ready?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:51
(if they could assign themselves to the issue that would be great for tracking)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:47:52
Fedora 40 Beta was No-Go last week. Pushing out the earliest beta target to March 19. There's another meeting tomorrow to determine if F40 beta will be Go/No-Go for that date
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:47:58
I added some bits in the docs regarding iSCSI so it's ready to be tested :)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:49:45
ash: hmm, the text in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1686 doesn't look like the latest version?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:49:55
We have to find volunteers for the test week especially to carry the tests on different platforms. That is a task in hand
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:50:48
travier: next is still on f39. podman v5 is in branched, so it'll be in next once we rebase it to f40
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:51:12
Its in the hackmd that we have noted down so far : https://hackmd.io/nhLcXDbZTcWTzkvQAcUwtA
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:41
Hackmd are always temporary and should be synced back to issues as much as possible
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:52:15
ash: sorry if i didn't make that clear
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:53:34
no, its just that I thought of adding the contents from hackmd to the TO-DO list list later. I ll add it right away
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:48
Can we let you three ash apiaseck jbtrystram handle the preparation for the test week?
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:54:02
works for me
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:54:08
I'm up for it.
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:54:21
Yes!it works with me.
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:54:25
sumantro has created new pages for the new test cases, but they might need tweaking
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:54:40
i wouldn't worry about the "carried over" items in the todo list
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:55:11
Great, I'll assign the issue to you all. Anything else we should talk about for this topic?
<@aaradhak:matrix.org>
16:55:55
Nothing else from me
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:56:27
nothing here
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:56:41
alright, let's move to the next one.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:57:33
any priority?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:58:09
!topic Give coreos Fedora group co-maintainership of all CoreOS-related packages in Fedora
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:58:13
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:58:21
This one should be a short one
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:59:41
The idea is to centralize the access management to repos for packages that we maintain
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:00:15
Option A is to re-use the coreos group to grant commit access to everyone in the group and add folks doing package management be part of this group
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:00:37
Option B is to create another group for commit access only and grant members of the coreos group admin access
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:01:32
it feels a bit working around the "open source community" aspect of becoming a fedora packager
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:02:34
everyone still needs to go through the new packager flow
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:02:34
i.e. you have to contribute something, find someone willing to sponsor you .. rather than "i'm part of X team and that grants me things"
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:02:35
how so?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:02:47
this would just make it easier to manage our own packages
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:02:53
but it already works like that for the GH repos so that would be aligning stuff
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:03:30
We will still expect people to do pull request for changes and get reviews
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:04:18
You still have to be sponsored into the packager group
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:05:10
ah ok, I didn't realise that. ignore what I typed then !
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:05:43
Any preference for option A or B?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:05:55
option B makes sense to me
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:06:19
there's also *a lot* of Rust packages we technically currently own as they are deps of some of our Rust-based upstream projects
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:06:30
currently, i'm the admin for all of them (inherited from Benjamin)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:06:39
so spreading that better would be good indeed
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:07:19
yeah, this is mostly my concern around having a single person have the admin permissions and then we have troubles when we need to fix things
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:07:33
managing groups can happen independently
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:08:49
I think also the current coreos group is just used for calendar perms, which is to say, not much
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:08:51
Any concerns regarding option B? I'll make a proposed
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:10:06
proposed: We well create a coreos-packager group with commit access to packages maintained by the group and use the coreos group for admin access to those same packages.
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
17:10:48
+1
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:11:10
+1 but "we will" :)
<@jmarrero:matrix.org>
17:11:11
Option B +
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:11:16
ack
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:11:48
proposed: We will create a coreos-packager group with commit access to packages maintained by the group and use the coreos group for admin access to those same packages.
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
17:11:59
+1
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:12:43
!agreed We will create a coreos-packager group with commit access to packages maintained by the group and use the coreos group for admin access to those same packages
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:13:15
Do we have time for another one? Not sure
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:13:44
would be good to have Dusty too for the others anyway
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:14:07
maybe just open floor?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:14:18
OK, so let's move to open discussion
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:14:29
!topic Open Floor
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:15:41
I've updated the dates for the upcoming meetings in https://hackmd.io/OSVZR5vETkmKuA9A_KAzUg I've subscribed folks that already ran previous meeting to run upcoming ones again. Feel free to adjust. We also appreciate having new volunteers running meeting!
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:16:05
Don't be like me! Mark your next meeting in your calendar so that you don't forget 😅
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:16:44
could we pin this doc at the top of the CoreOS matrix room ?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:17:23
i didn't even know Matrix supported that. cool
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:17:41
I'm not an admin there so I'll have to ask Dusty or ask to be made admin
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
17:18:10
Jonathan Lebon: i am not sure it does. Just asking
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:18:35
it does. you have to click on the channel name at the top and then "Pinned" (at least in the web UI)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:21:39
it looks like change proposals for f41 are open. travier should we work together on submitting something for the scriptlet thing?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:22:53
That would be good yes
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:26:18
travier: i think we can close this?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:26:34
yes, if there is nothing else, let's close this meeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:26:47
!endmeeting