2023-11-22 16:35:23 <@siosm:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2023-11-22 16:35:25 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2023-11-22 16:35:23 UTC
2023-11-22 16:35:25 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2023-11-22 16:35:38 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2023-11-22 16:35:47 <@fifofonix:matrix.org> hi
2023-11-22 16:37:01 <@siosm:matrix.org> !user hello siosm
2023-11-22 16:37:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
2023-11-22 16:37:34 <@fifofonix:matrix.org> !user hello fifofonix
2023-11-22 16:37:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fifo Phonics (fifofonix)
2023-11-22 16:37:59 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !user hello ydesouza
2023-11-22 16:38:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Yasmin Valim de Souza (ydesouza)
2023-11-22 16:39:06 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !user hello gurssing
2023-11-22 16:39:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sorry, but Fedora Accounts user 'gurssing' does not exist
2023-11-22 16:39:11 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !user hello jlebon
2023-11-22 16:39:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon)
2023-11-22 16:39:36 <@jlebon:fedora.im> sweet, I'm still None
2023-11-22 16:40:57 <@copperi:fedora.im> !user hello copperi
2023-11-22 16:40:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jan Kuparinen (copperi)
2023-11-22 16:42:02 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !user hello gursewak
2023-11-22 16:42:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
2023-11-22 16:42:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> Let's start!
2023-11-22 16:43:11 <@siosm:matrix.org> !chair fifofonix Yasmin Valim de Souza gursewak 
2023-11-22 16:43:32 <@siosm:matrix.org> hum, not sure if this one works :/
2023-11-22 16:43:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting
2023-11-22 16:44:34 <@jlebon:fedora.im> there are no chairs in the matrix
2023-11-22 16:45:08 <@siosm:matrix.org> I'm looking for the logs from the last meeting...
2023-11-22 16:45:58 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2023-11-15/95974
2023-11-22 16:46:10 <@jlebon:fedora.im> according to https://github.com/coreos/fcos-meeting-action/issues/43, there are no action items
2023-11-22 16:46:33 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> travier last meeting I did really know to set the action items, but basically Jonathan proposed to us releasing afterburn and ignition.  And then I volunteer to do the ignition release and Mike the afterburn one.
2023-11-22 16:47:25 <@siosm:matrix.org> I had two actions from https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2023-11-08/95448
2023-11-22 16:47:27 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2023-11-08/95448
2023-11-22 16:47:44 <@siosm:matrix.org> !action  travier to create a change proposal for F40 for switching away from nss-altfiles for OSTree based systems
2023-11-22 16:47:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> !action travier to schedule meeting with Assisted installer team to understand the use case around https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1595
2023-11-22 16:48:11 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> travier last meeting I did really not know to set the action items, but basically Jonathan proposed to us releasing afterburn and ignition.  And then I volunteer to do the ignition release and Mike the afterburn one.
2023-11-22 16:48:17 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ahhh yes. i guess we hadn't carried it over into the meeting after that
2023-11-22 16:48:27 <@siosm:matrix.org> ok, let's move on
2023-11-22 16:48:35 <@siosm:matrix.org> looks like the old logs are 404/gone
2023-11-22 16:49:04 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i think the link might be a bit off. i use https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_coreos_meeting/ which still seems ok
2023-11-22 16:49:25 <@siosm:matrix.org> hum, found: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-11-15/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-11-15-16.30.html
2023-11-22 16:49:52 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> !user hello c4rt0
2023-11-22 16:49:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
2023-11-22 16:49:57 <@siosm:matrix.org> your link doesn't load for me Jonathan
2023-11-22 16:50:05 <@siosm:matrix.org> let's investigate that after the meeting
2023-11-22 16:50:39 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Use Matrix for community meetings
2023-11-22 16:50:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1616
2023-11-22 16:50:55 <@siosm:matrix.org> So, this is a bit meta :)
2023-11-22 16:51:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> We're kind of doing it :)
2023-11-22 16:51:35 <@siosm:matrix.org> I'll make PRs to update the docs. Anything else that we should do?
2023-11-22 16:51:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> The fcos meeting action might need some love as wel
2023-11-22 16:51:54 <@siosm:matrix.org> The fcos meeting action might need some love as well
2023-11-22 16:52:00 <@jlebon:fedora.im> nice, SGTM!
2023-11-22 16:52:07 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i think that's the main thing
2023-11-22 16:52:19 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i don't think there's anything else needed
2023-11-22 16:53:14 <@siosm:matrix.org> We'll see how good the notes are / if this works at the end
2023-11-22 16:53:30 <@siosm:matrix.org> moving to next topic
2023-11-22 16:53:44 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic linux-firmware does not pull amd-ucode-firmware subpackage
2023-11-22 16:53:50 <@siosm:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1618
2023-11-22 16:54:47 <@siosm:matrix.org> An update to the linux-firmware is dropping the amd-ucode subpackage due to a packaging issue
2023-11-22 16:55:02 <@siosm:matrix.org> The package will be moving to recommends in the future and we don't pull recommends
2023-11-22 16:55:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> so we need an action
2023-11-22 16:55:38 <@siosm:matrix.org> I've made a PR already but not sure if that's exactly what we want
2023-11-22 16:56:30 <@siosm:matrix.org> oh, I've just realized that we also explicitly include intel microcode so I guess this should be ok
2023-11-22 16:56:55 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i think similarly to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1575, short-term we should make sure it stays, regardless of what we decide longer term. but even longer term shouldn't we ship this?
2023-11-22 16:57:23 <@jlebon:fedora.im> is the intel one being broken out too?
2023-11-22 16:57:45 <@siosm:matrix.org> yes, I agree it should stay in the image as it's for the CPU so a "core" thing :)
2023-11-22 16:58:46 <@siosm:matrix.org> interestingly, linux-firmware does not recommend microcode_ctl (for the intel ucode)
2023-11-22 16:59:39 <@jlebon:fedora.im> hmm, that's interesting. so for intel the microcodes are shipped in microcode_ctl, but for amd they're in linux-firmware
2023-11-22 17:00:01 <@siosm:matrix.org> yeah, this had me confused initially
2023-11-22 17:00:13 <@siosm:matrix.org> yeah, this confused me initially
2023-11-22 17:00:22 <@jlebon:fedora.im> likely history there. but anyway, +1 to continuing to ship it
2023-11-22 17:01:06 <@siosm:matrix.org> !proposed We'll keep include amd-ucode-firmware in FCOS
2023-11-22 17:01:27 <@siosm:matrix.org> We can now vote with emoji!
2023-11-22 17:01:45 <@jlebon:fedora.im> that's pretty neat
2023-11-22 17:03:16 <@siosm:matrix.org> !agreed We'll keep include amd-ucode-firmware in FCOS
2023-11-22 17:03:32 <@fifofonix:matrix.org> la vie en rose
2023-11-22 17:03:53 <@siosm:matrix.org> That's it for today
2023-11-22 17:03:59 <@siosm:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor
2023-11-22 17:04:23 <@siosm:matrix.org> We now have all streams on F39 🎉
2023-11-22 17:05:13 <@siosm:matrix.org> Great work on the releases and testing / fixing issues!
2023-11-22 17:05:15 <@jlebon:fedora.im> nice. thanks spresti for running the releases this week!
2023-11-22 17:05:37 <@spresti:fedora.im> Nooo problem :)
2023-11-22 17:05:59 <@spresti:fedora.im> So moving forward are we going to be using matrix for hosting the meeting?
2023-11-22 17:07:36 <@jlebon:fedora.im> yeah, that's the plan
2023-11-22 17:07:54 <@jlebon:fedora.im> we'll need to update the meeting github action
2023-11-22 17:07:59 <@spresti:fedora.im> Sweet, if thats the case there might be a few small changes for the fcos-action-checklist
2023-11-22 17:08:42 <@spresti:fedora.im> travier:  I might poke you about some details on it. 
2023-11-22 17:10:24 <@siosm:matrix.org> sure!
2023-11-22 17:12:04 <@siosm:matrix.org> If there is nothing else, I'll close in 5 min :)
2023-11-22 17:13:02 <@siosm:matrix.org> so far on F39, I only had one weird podman behavior change around default permissions for tmpfs mounts but I'm not 100% it's related to the f38->f39 rebase so I'll have to investigate
2023-11-22 17:16:21 <@siosm:matrix.org> Alright, will close the meeting
2023-11-22 17:16:30 <@siosm:matrix.org> !e,dmeeting
2023-11-22 17:16:36 <@siosm:matrix.org> !endmeeting
2023-11-22 17:16:51 <@siosm:matrix.org> !endmeeting