12:02:21 <kshlm> #startmeeting Weekly Community Meeting 2016-11-30
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12:02:32 <kshlm> Hi all!
12:02:42 <post-factum> hi
12:02:44 <kshlm> #topic Rollcall
12:02:57 <kshlm> I'll wait a couple of minutes more for people to show up.
12:03:03 <kshlm> Hey post-factum!
12:03:17 * post-factum _o/ \o_ -o- ~o~
12:03:45 <kshlm> We actually just have 1 topic of discussion this week, one I added last week.
12:03:56 <kshlm> Is there nothing to discuss?
12:04:19 <post-factum> dunno. i just lurking
12:04:27 <kshlm> post-factum, Nice moves :D
12:04:41 <post-factum> thx ^_^
12:06:14 <kshlm> post-factum, Looks like it's just the 2 of us.
12:06:26 <post-factum> kshlm, meh :/
12:06:43 <post-factum> teamwork--
12:06:50 <jdarcy> :-P
12:07:06 <kshlm> Oh. jdarcy is here.
12:07:13 <kshlm> But that makes it just 3 of us.
12:07:25 <kshlm> Shall we wait longer?
12:08:32 <kshlm> We'll wait for a little while longer. About 10 minutes.
12:08:43 * ankitraj here also
12:09:13 <kshlm> ankitraj, Just lurking?
12:09:35 <ankitraj> kshlm,nope
12:10:15 <kshlm> Okay. That's cool! It'll be even cooler if you've got anything to discuss.
12:11:26 <partner> (ups, late)
12:12:57 <kshlm> partner, We haven't started yet. Still waiting for more people to show up.
12:17:34 <partner> noticed :)
12:17:50 <partner> not that i have much to contribute but trying to keep in the loop anyways
12:18:01 <kshlm> Okay. The 10 minutes are up.
12:18:28 <kshlm> We have 5 people here, and 1 topic of discussion.
12:18:50 <kshlm> Should we continue with the meeting?
12:19:16 <kshlm> The agenda is at https://bit.ly/gluster-community-meetings
12:19:35 <kshlm> The only topic up for discussion right now is 'Feedback on hackmd'
12:20:10 <jdarcy> It's kind of growing on me.
12:20:33 <kshlm> jdarcy, Good. That's one feedback.
12:21:01 <partner> oh, i recall hearing that was being changed, unfortunately i have no experience with hackmd yet
12:21:06 <kshlm> Anyone else have a feedback?
12:21:09 <jdarcy> How well does it work for transporting contents to the wiki?
12:21:30 <kshlm> partner, Just take a look at the agenda, and let us know what you feel.
12:21:45 <kshlm> jdarcy, Yup.
12:22:13 <kshlm> The content is formatted with markdown only. Makes it very easy to archive it in the wiki.
12:22:21 <partner> i'm confused about the content or perhaps the order of it
12:22:25 <kshlm> It's a simple copy-paste.
12:22:38 <ankitraj> ya, it looks good for markdown things
12:22:43 <jdarcy> OK, wasn't sure if the markup was that compatible.
12:23:07 <partner> it took me quite a bit of effort to actually find that "1 topic"
12:23:08 <kshlm> partner, The order was changed recently. We've moved away from having weekly updates in this meeting.
12:23:34 <kshlm> It's just all open-floor now.
12:23:35 <partner> host instructions should be way down somewhere
12:23:52 <kshlm> partner, Noted.
12:24:00 <kshlm> I'll change that.
12:24:54 <jdarcy> I wonder why attendance is so low today.  Nothing crazy special about this week, is there?
12:26:10 <partner> this is a very tiny comment but seeing the agenda it seems getting the name of the next weeks host is the most important thing..
12:26:24 <partner> i just feel adding anything extra before _real_ agenda confuses
12:26:32 <kkeithley> _o/
12:26:43 <partner> other than that it looks pretty clean and simple
12:26:46 <kshlm> jdarcy, I wonder that too.
12:27:03 <kshlm> partner, It's first only because we used to forget to do that.
12:27:15 <kshlm> Hey kkeithley!
12:27:18 <partner> quite a few times for the meeting... i would think anybody interested in gluster just might be able to figure out how to convert some UTC/GMT :)
12:27:27 <partner> kshlm: i can accept that :)
12:28:12 <kshlm> kkeithley, We're discussing feedback on hackmd. Do you have any.
12:28:34 * kkeithley googles hackmd to see what it is
12:29:03 <partner> https://bit.ly/gluster-community-meetings
12:29:05 <kkeithley> oh,
12:29:25 <kshlm> kkeithley, It's our new etherpad alternative.
12:30:12 <partner> i do like the updates part and its nice to see some names there as well in case i would like to contact the core people of the release
12:30:14 <kkeithley> please tell me that isn't flash
12:30:24 <kshlm> HTML5 + JS
12:31:00 <partner> how about moving the notes from last week up to after the current agenda since the "updates" part is pretty static and "it will not be discussed in the meeting" ?
12:31:34 <kshlm> partner, There are no notes from last week.
12:31:44 <partner> my bad, action items
12:31:50 <kkeithley> btw, BST, CEST, EDT, and PDT (daylight savings) are over.  Use UTC/GMT, CET, EST, and PST.
12:31:54 <kshlm> They are updates on action items if any from last week.
12:32:12 <partner> yeah, but why are the after a section that is not discussed on the meeting?
12:32:46 <kshlm> They are not discussed either. They are updates.
12:33:18 <partner> ah, well they are less static anyways than releases.. :)
12:33:31 <jdarcy> Well, we *can* discuss them if there's anything unclear, but I don't think I've seen that happen yet.
12:34:07 <kshlm> Yup. The owners (or anyone else) can add them to the open-floor if required.
12:34:12 <partner> i just meant that anything that is even semi-active should be higher on the page. there are no weekly glusterfs updates so they rarely change
12:34:51 <kshlm> kkeithley, I don't want to change all that :/
12:35:00 <partner> note what kkeithley said about the timezones..
12:35:02 <partner> heh
12:35:16 <kshlm> I think we should just go with UTC.
12:35:36 <partner> there is only one time known by the computers.. :)
12:35:42 <jdarcy> UTC + conversion instructions (date -u)
12:35:51 <kshlm> The date command listed is good enough for everyone else.
12:36:00 <partner> at least my calendar is capable of handling daylight savings and such to keep me alerted of the meetings
12:36:02 <kshlm> jdarcy, Yup.
12:36:18 <partner> that saves loads of valuable space again
12:36:33 <partner> i think i've said enough, need to check how it feels next week
12:36:50 <jdarcy> I've yet to find a calendar program that can really deal with things properly when I move.
12:37:13 <jdarcy> Usually about half my appointments get converted and the other half don't.
12:37:53 <sankarshan> Calendars are remarkably prescient
12:38:06 <jdarcy> Also, my weather app won't stop showing me the weather in Berlin.
12:38:31 <kshlm> jdarcy, The trick would be to saveall appointments in UTC. Then just have the application display it in the current timezone.
12:38:33 <kkeithley> Maybe you left your buggy whip in Berlin?
12:39:01 <kshlm> partner, Thanks for the feedback!
12:39:07 <jdarcy> kshlm: I think often it's what the meeting organizer did that affects the outcome.
12:39:21 <kkeithley> For inter-timezone meetings I use the Iceland TZ. It's UTC and doesn't have BST nonsense
12:39:40 <kshlm> Hmm. I've always used the google calender, which saves stuff in UTC by default.
12:40:00 <kkeithley> not my google calendar.
12:40:05 <kshlm> And all the invites I get have also been in UTC.
12:40:25 <jdarcy> Anyway, for current purposes, UTC + "date -u" should work for everyone.
12:40:39 <kshlm> Cool. I'm changing the time instructions then.
12:42:19 <kshlm> Anything else we need to discuss about hackmd?
12:42:26 <kshlm> Or anything else really.
12:43:23 <jdarcy> Nothing here.
12:44:11 <post-factum> no
12:45:14 <kshlm> Okay. I'll end the meeting then.
12:45:23 <kshlm> Thanks for attending everyone!
12:45:29 <kshlm> See you all next week.
12:45:43 <kshlm> #endmeeting