14:05:28 <KageSenshi> #startmeeting
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14:05:35 <KageSenshi> #meetingname fudcon kl 2012
14:05:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_kl_2012'
14:05:46 <KageSenshi> #topic roll call
14:05:47 <KageSenshi> :)
14:05:48 <kaio> .fas ?
14:05:54 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
14:05:55 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
14:05:55 <KageSenshi> yeah
14:06:05 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: can you walk people through the links to "how the subsidy process works" and decision making, and also the link to the budget spreadsheet
14:06:09 * rbergeron is here
14:06:10 <rbergeron> (after roll call)
14:06:11 <kaio> .fas kaio.net
14:06:12 <zodbot> kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' <me@kaio.net>
14:06:17 * rbergeron is adding tickets to the subsidy meeting queue
14:06:24 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
14:06:25 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
14:06:27 <adimania> .fas adimania
14:06:29 <FranciscoD> .fas FranciscoD
14:06:33 <zodbot> adimania: adimania 'Aditya Patawari' <adimania@gmail.com>
14:06:36 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> - franciscodubo 'Francisco Javier Dubó Ortíz' <f.dubo@hotmail.cl>
14:06:37 <MavJS> .fas MavJS
14:06:38 <praveenkumar> .fas kumarpraveen
14:06:41 <zodbot> MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' <mavjs01@gmail.com>
14:06:44 <zodbot> praveenkumar: kumarpraveen '' <kumarpraveen.nitdgp@gmail.com>
14:06:58 <soumyac> .fas soumya
14:07:01 <zodbot> soumyac: kernelhacker 'soumyadip das mahapatra' <kernelhacker@visualserver.org> - soumya 'Soumya Kanti Chakraborty' <soumya@dgplug.org> - soumyadip 'Soumyadip Saha' <block_ip@yahoo.com> - soumyakantig 'soumya kanti ghosh' <soumyakantig@yahoo.in>
14:07:13 <TYSSeries> .fas tysseries
14:07:14 <zodbot> TYSSeries: tysseries '' <tys1992@gmail.com>
14:07:15 <hanthana> .fas snavin
14:07:18 <zodbot> hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' <danishka@gmail.com>
14:07:40 <KageSenshi> ok :)
14:07:45 <KageSenshi> guess plenty are here
14:07:58 <KageSenshi> and i think all submitted the talks
14:08:14 <meng> .fas seatux
14:08:15 <zodbot> meng: seatux 'Meng Shen' <seatux86@gmail.com>
14:08:17 <maktrix> .fas mahayalamkhan@gmail.com
14:08:19 <zodbot> maktrix: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com>
14:08:30 <callkalpa> .fas callkalpa
14:08:32 <zodbot> callkalpa: callkalpa 'Kalpa Welivitigoda' <callkalpa@gmail.com>
14:08:41 <KageSenshi> #topic funding requests
14:08:56 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro@gmail.com
14:08:57 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
14:08:58 <KageSenshi> hi all, welcome to the subsidy request meeting :)
14:09:47 <KageSenshi> #link our budget is here : http://goo.gl/rRVyg
14:10:15 <rbergeron> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/13
14:10:21 <rbergeron> #info Subsidy requests are in the report above (yay)
14:10:38 <KageSenshi> at the moment, the budget we have for the event is 15k usd, rbergeron said we might get 20k , but not sure yet
14:10:38 <rbergeron> oh wait a second
14:10:44 <rbergeron> why didn't those update right, hrmmmm
14:10:54 <rbergeron> kage: yes, I am still trying to confirm that $$ :)
14:11:23 <KageSenshi> ok :)
14:12:33 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: can you just note the information about "how to request" and that we've asked people to describe what they want to accomplish
14:12:42 <rbergeron> so poepe here understand and readers of logs know? :)
14:12:59 <KageSenshi> so, based on current budget at least, we might not able to approve everyone, so i hope everyone understand
14:13:51 * rbergeron would also note we aren't (i hope) planning on allocating all of the funding today, since the deadline hasn't ended
14:13:59 <KageSenshi> yeah
14:14:26 * KageSenshi goes get a wiki link
14:15:11 <KageSenshi> #link selection criteria will be based on criterias noted here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees#Criteria
14:15:43 <le_termino> hi everyone
14:16:05 <KageSenshi> #info note: we aren't planning on allocating all of the funding today, since the deadline hasn't ended .. there will be another funding approval meeting again
14:16:06 <le_termino> is this the channel for approval of fudcon subsidies?
14:16:11 <KageSenshi> le_termino, yes
14:16:21 <le_termino> oh! thanls
14:16:23 <le_termino> thanks
14:16:55 <le_termino> so is there some questions i need to answer to support my claim for subsidy?
14:17:08 <FranciscoD> maybe le_termino , wait up until your ticket is reviewed :)
14:17:26 <KageSenshi> lets start with kaio i guess ..
14:17:27 <KageSenshi> :)
14:17:38 <KageSenshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/278
14:17:45 <kaio> wow
14:17:49 <KageSenshi> kaio, as i noted, its 800 usd
14:18:01 <KageSenshi> kaio, which airline is that again ?
14:18:16 <kaio> airasia
14:18:38 <KageSenshi> + luggage, i think thats about 900 i guess
14:18:45 <kaio> I forgot to write down the plane number.
14:18:47 * rbergeron notes she fixed the report list
14:19:09 <kaio> And as everyone knows prices keep changing.
14:19:33 <KageSenshi> kaio, can you briefly describe what you are planning do contribute & achieve in the event ?
14:19:46 * rbergeron wonders about the hotel costs; do we have a firm amount that we can just know for everyone, rather than having a different number for each person? :)
14:20:24 <kaio> KageSenshi: as famsco I am looking forward to see ambassadors in person
14:20:28 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, in the budget doc, i allocated 1 room for 5 nights and 4 rooms for 4 nights
14:20:51 <rbergeron> okay, so i gues i'm wondering what the actual hotel amount is here that we'd be looking at
14:21:06 <rbergeron> because kaio has $200+, but that's based on not sharing a room, etc
14:21:07 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, 1 room can fit 4 person .. though i'm wondering whether you are coming over as we'll need to allocate a room for women
14:21:22 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, total budget for room currently is about 2.2k usd
14:21:24 <kaio> and working out about swags & media production/distribution, funding workflow, and anything famsco can assist on event organisation.
14:21:43 <kaio> rbergeron: I am happy to share the room. You can half that $200.
14:21:50 <inode0> ?
14:22:01 <KageSenshi> inode0,
14:22:08 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: i would likely be in my own room, but at this point i am likely not coming, but i am looking for someone awesome to be in my place. it's right at release time, and there are a lot of press things to do at that point, esp as it's the first release i'll have been around, etc.
14:22:13 <rbergeron> but we can take up that point later.
14:22:16 <inode0> How much of the budget is allocated for travel subsidies and how much of that is being allocated in this meeting?
14:22:43 <kaio> And I prefer to share room with people so we may be able to start hack-party
14:24:39 <KageSenshi> inode0, from the original plan, about 7k usd .. and for this meeting i'm aiming to get maybe 3-6 person approved
14:25:14 <KageSenshi> depending on their relevancy , and also their possible contribution to the event
14:25:18 <KageSenshi> and also cost
14:26:13 <rbergeron> on this ticket - I think we should *not* be considering the "travel to another event as well" - that request needs to go through your regional approval process, we don't want to mix funds between fudcons and regional budget, as they are separate
14:26:43 <rbergeron> we can buy the ticket all at once, but i odn' twant to load costs into this budget that aren't relevant to the event
14:27:12 <KageSenshi> +1
14:27:47 <kaio> I can request from famsco trac for the extra mileages in parallel.
14:28:29 <kaio> roughly the ticket will be around $50 off if no extra mileages.
14:29:17 <KageSenshi> $50 less you mean ?
14:29:27 <rbergeron> is it $50 or $200?
14:29:32 <rbergeron> PS: The trip from KL to HK is worth to do because it costs extra $200 to meet the community in South China at once. Please kindly approve that also.
14:30:19 <kaio> I can confirm after the meeting.
14:30:49 <KageSenshi> ok
14:30:55 <rbergeron> okay, so let's assume for the moment it is $50 less, and if it is more less, adjust accordingly
14:31:33 <kaio> I think $200 was based on the flight Australia <-> KL, but since there is only 1 flight per week, extra nights in hotel may offset that badly.
14:31:50 <kaio> s/$200/$200 difference/
14:32:25 <kaio> if I transit to HK I can sleep free for 3 days
14:32:32 <KageSenshi> kaio, extra night as in, from what date to what date ? ..
14:33:06 <kaio> I leave Brisbane on SUN, so MON TUE WED.
14:33:17 * KageSenshi notes that we can also find someone in local community to offer couchsurfing :)
14:33:29 <maktrix> +1
14:33:30 <kaio> THU FRI SAT will be occupying hotel in KL.
14:34:31 <KageSenshi> ok
14:34:52 <KageSenshi> kaio, are you ok with couchsurfing?
14:35:01 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: we shoudl probably break up the amounts in the spreadsheet for $flightamount vs. hotel amount, since we have a lot of people assuming different hotel costs. and just give everyone the same hotel amount #.
14:35:16 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: couchsurfing in KL? or in HK?
14:35:42 <kaio> I will start requesting fund for the transit and see how it goes. I am okay for couchsurfing but if I can get funding $50 from famsco I will do it.
14:35:56 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, theres the hotel cost in row47
14:36:07 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, but yeah i guess i should note their days
14:36:09 <kaio> on hotel I have no preference
14:36:46 <KageSenshi> ok
14:36:58 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, couchsurfing in kl i mean
14:37:17 <kaio> in HK I have parents
14:37:48 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: let's just assume people are staying fo the full time, we don't need to go crazy as far as the exactness there
14:38:01 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, ok
14:38:08 <rbergeron> so the sponsorship amount is flight only in that column?
14:38:13 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, yeah
14:39:13 <KageSenshi> erm
14:39:25 * KageSenshi suggest postponing kaio evaluation to next meeting
14:39:50 <rbergeron> kaio: can you file the ticket with your regional folks and put the link to it in this one?
14:39:52 <KageSenshi> as he need to check on the famsco funding
14:39:54 <rbergeron> just so we can keep an eye on it
14:39:56 <kaio> KageSenshi: ok thx or can you approve the flight AU <-> KL?
14:40:10 <kaio> rbergeron: roger that
14:40:29 <KageSenshi> kaio, i want to go through everyone first before approving any .. so we'll get back at the end of meeting
14:40:52 <kaio> KageSenshi: no problem ;)
14:41:06 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, next person ?
14:41:31 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, or you have other questions?
14:41:32 * rbergeron looks at list
14:41:50 <KageSenshi> next person who is in this meeting is udinnet
14:42:01 <udinnet> yo
14:42:04 <udinnet> :)
14:42:46 <rbergeron> okay, go for it
14:42:54 <KageSenshi> #link udinnet request : https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/279
14:43:07 <KageSenshi> hi udinnet
14:43:12 <udinnet> Hi :)
14:43:54 <KageSenshi> udinnet, could you briefly describe whats your existing contributions, what you wish contribute and  achieve in fudcon ?
14:45:10 <udinnet> Well I have done few fedora events in sri lanka along the way and Planning to have more.
14:46:07 <udinnet> #link http://www.pageshack.com/computers/operating-systems/fedora-seminar-anuradhapura-2011
14:46:29 <udinnet> I really like to meet the APAC fedora people. And also I'm really like to discuss about swag distribution process, Improving contributor joining process, Training newbie contributors, training end users.. Also I'd like to participate those nice discussions stated in the wiki
14:47:17 <udinnet> Not only apac people, but also every f.pro contributor who participates the event :)
14:47:57 <udinnet> I'll be giving a talk regarding Linux security best practices with Fedora
14:48:34 * callkalpa have to leave now, will be back in 45 mins back. Hope it is ok to skip my position in the order and join at the end
14:48:42 <KageSenshi> callkalpa, ok
14:48:55 <KageSenshi> udinnet, any more to add ?
14:49:03 <udinnet> eof
14:49:05 <udinnet> :)
14:49:08 <KageSenshi> ok :)
14:49:09 <KageSenshi> thanks
14:49:42 <rbergeron> can we note how much the request is for? :)
14:50:17 * KageSenshi notes that the mentioned request was 150, but if we add the luggage+food, its about 210 ..
14:50:27 <udinnet> I think the travel cost will be around $200
14:50:35 <KageSenshi> yep
14:50:40 <udinnet> I have commented it on my ticket
14:51:04 <KageSenshi> ok :)
14:51:40 <udinnet> And I'll go with KageSenshi  's decision for hotel booking
14:51:42 <KageSenshi> udinnet, can we expect you to add some more topics if needed if you got approved?
14:51:56 <rbergeron> can I ask a question? what's with the luggage cost? is that even if you carry on?
14:52:04 <hanthana> KageSenshi, last time i did not spent extra free for luggage
14:52:18 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, for check-in luggage
14:52:29 <hanthana> i was using normal ticket given by Mozilla from CMB to KL
14:52:45 <hanthana> soumyac, i hope this will apply to udinnet as well
14:52:48 <rbergeron> i'd really like to see people carrying-on if they can - it's not a cost we generally cover for any other fudcons
14:52:49 <udinnet> KageSenshi:  Sure thing
14:52:57 <hanthana> so, i hope this will apply to udinnet as well
14:53:07 <rbergeron> unless htey are bringing 400 boxes of swag or something, which would be different, obviously
14:53:20 <rbergeron> and KageSenshi: food?
14:53:45 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, as its a low-cost airline, food is separate ..
14:53:55 <udinnet> Food it kinda cheap, it'll cost arround $8 for up and down
14:53:58 <soumyac> hantana : ?
14:54:28 <udinnet> KageSenshi:  Am I right?
14:54:53 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: I think generally we ask people to cover their own food en route - partially because "you're going to eat wherever you are" ... partially because trying to reimburse incredibly small amounts afterwards is very difficult.
14:54:54 <KageSenshi> udinnet, iirc its usd13, but yeah, about right
14:54:56 <hanthana> soumyac, misfire ;-)
14:55:06 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, it will be included into the flight cost
14:55:08 <rbergeron> i think if it's a "absolutely cannot afford it" type of thing that's something to consider, but...
14:55:20 <KageSenshi> single receipt
14:55:47 <rbergeron> is there a way for people to purchase fod directly on the flight or can it only be planned ahead?
14:55:50 <rbergeron> food
14:55:52 * soumyac apologizes for incorrect misfiring of your nick *hanthana*
14:56:06 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, if its bought ahead, it will be part of flight cost
14:56:16 <KageSenshi> they can also buy on-flight
14:56:28 <KageSenshi> though at a higher price
14:57:16 * FranciscoD notes that air asia food is 3$ a combo, not really expensive
14:57:26 <FranciscoD> (on prebook, not sure what the on-flight cost is)
14:57:55 * KageSenshi dont quite remember the difference, though should be about usd1-2 higher
14:58:13 <KageSenshi> (ah 13 was myr, not usd)
14:58:43 <rbergeron> and so the person organizing the flight is also going to have to check with the person about their food preferences and so forth?
14:59:29 <rbergeron> well, if it's $3, i guess that's not going to kill us, i just don't like setting the "all inclusive of every single cost" precedent
14:59:53 <KageSenshi> ok
15:00:01 <udinnet> :)
15:01:06 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, so i guess, only include the base price?
15:01:08 <udinnet> I have no idea about room costs
15:01:24 * inode0 thinks we need a more efficient process here than 2 tickets per hour but doesn't know what to suggest at this point
15:01:35 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: you can set an upper limit to miscellaneous flight tickets maybe (stuff other than base price)?
15:01:50 <le_termino> inode0: +1
15:01:56 <KageSenshi> inode0, yeah :(
15:02:10 <FranciscoD> "miscellaneous prices in the flight tickets", I meant
15:03:06 <rbergeron> let's just do the base price, i guess, unless people feel really strongly about covering extra food
15:03:15 <KageSenshi> +1
15:03:29 <rbergeron> it's just one more thing for the person purchasing plane tickets to have to deal with, figuring out food preferences, etc.
15:04:04 <udinnet> I don't know how much of time will it take to last the promo prices, after that ticket costs will be higher from around $30-50
15:04:35 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, btw, usually in apac, harish asked for us to buy it ourselves first, and claim from him
15:05:09 <adimania> KageSenshi, the reimbursements took a lot of time for us.
15:05:34 <rbergeron> well, i will sort that out with harish, it's always been easier for me to buy the ticket directly, than to worry aobut how to wire money to another country
15:05:40 <rbergeron> which adds additional costs
15:05:46 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, ok
15:05:50 <rbergeron> and requires me going over to the bank and so forth
15:05:56 <adimania> Plus if an elected person is booking then we might get some sort of group discount.
15:06:16 <rbergeron> yeah, i'm not going to be trying to get a group discount
15:06:23 <KageSenshi> adimania, btw, keep nagging him for reimbursement, he himself said that in fudcon pune :)
15:06:38 <udinnet> :D
15:06:38 <adimania> KageSenshi, I remember that clearly :D
15:06:48 <maktrix> :)
15:06:50 <rbergeron> i can either book tikets or i can try and get a group discount but i can't spend endless amounts of time on both :)
15:06:54 <KageSenshi> adimania, mine got cleared in about a month
15:07:07 <rbergeron> okay, can we move on with making a decision here
15:07:10 <KageSenshi> ok
15:07:13 <KageSenshi> next person~!
15:07:15 <rbergeron> before we get to one per hour :)
15:07:18 <rbergeron> did we approve this?
15:07:41 * rbergeron didn't see any yays/nays
15:07:49 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, i'm planning to go through everyone first , and vote at the end
15:07:58 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, or you want to approve early ?
15:08:06 <udinnet> it is KageSenshi  's desiccation :)
15:08:15 <hanthana> rbergeron, KageSenshi in Sri Lanka the USD rate is going up, so it would be better to buy it from out side of Sri Lanka
15:08:19 <udinnet> sorry decision
15:08:22 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: the whole entire list? or just a first grouping?
15:08:30 <udinnet> +1 hanthana
15:08:38 <KageSenshi> as i think its more fair to go through those who attended here .. before approving
15:08:49 <KageSenshi> coz some have a rather high cost
15:09:06 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, just those who attended tonight
15:09:12 <rbergeron> how much are we wanting to spend in this meeting?
15:09:33 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, 3-6 person .. (didnt quite give thought on amount)
15:10:05 <KageSenshi> #link maktrix's request : https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/280
15:10:12 <maktrix> :)
15:10:14 <rbergeron> i mean it's hard to ... say we want to go through and decide on the tickets in this meeting without having... an idea of what to balance that against, I guess
15:10:27 <rbergeron> in other words: there is no reason to say no, if we just got to our 3-6 people :)
15:10:35 <rbergeron> not that we want to say no to everyone but i think you understand what i mean
15:10:57 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, ok, lets make that to 3k :)
15:11:10 <KageSenshi> around 40% of the amount we can allocate
15:11:43 <KageSenshi> yep understood
15:11:54 <inode0> as an observer I'm really confused by what is going on, I don't know which tickets we are going to consider, not all the ones in the queue now?
15:12:24 <adimania> KageSenshi, rbergeron can I go next? my office is about to be closed and I'll have to move out in some time.
15:12:42 <KageSenshi> maktrix, could you give adimania first?
15:12:56 <KageSenshi> inode0, i was planning to go through those who attended, but i guess bad decision there :(
15:12:58 <maktrix> :) I'm starving
15:13:02 <maktrix> will go adimania
15:13:04 <maktrix> ok
15:13:12 <maktrix> +1 for adimania
15:13:21 <KageSenshi> adimania, quickly , describe what you can contribute / wish to achieve :)
15:13:25 * adimania thanks maktrix :)
15:13:36 <adimania> I have been a fedora contributor and ambassador since last 2-3 years. I have done several events in a few universities and have given talks and organized hackfedsts in FUDCon, Pune, FOSS.in and GNUnify.
15:13:36 <adimania> I was a Fedora summer coding student back in my college. I have also worked a bit on packaging. I also wrote the spec to split a couple of large rpms for kde. I have also worked for fedora-infra team as an apprentice.
15:13:36 <adimania> For FUDCon KL, I have planned a talk on Puppet with some tips on its usage in cloud environment. I am open to have a hands-on on puppet should there be interested participants.
15:14:20 <adimania> I am interested in infra related topics, so I would look out for contributors in that direction.
15:14:32 * KageSenshi notes the travel is approximately $600
15:14:36 <adimania> nope.
15:14:50 <KageSenshi> adimania, what would be the cost pls?
15:14:55 <adimania> Travel from Bangalore is about $310
15:15:03 <KageSenshi> ok
15:15:09 <adimania> I have added that updated cost in comment.
15:15:19 <KageSenshi> ah right
15:15:44 <adimania> My travel plans are similar, if not same, to FranciscoD and praveenkumar.
15:15:50 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, any questions for him? .. else we'll go next
15:16:15 <KageSenshi> (/me thinks most travel related questions have been answered earlier)
15:17:41 <rbergeron> nope, i think they're fine
15:17:44 <KageSenshi> ok
15:17:52 <KageSenshi> maktrix, yours?
15:19:33 <KageSenshi> ah pto
15:20:43 <KageSenshi> hanthana, you there?
15:20:49 <hanthana> KageSenshi, yep
15:20:53 <KageSenshi> ok :)
15:21:17 <KageSenshi> #link hanthana request https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/281
15:21:38 <KageSenshi> hanthana, could you briefly describe your request?
15:21:48 <adimania> #link adimania request https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/289
15:22:06 * adimania apology for pasting in between :(
15:22:07 <hanthana> KageSenshi, sure
15:22:08 <hanthana> I have been contributing to Fedora since 2007 and take a part in marketing, localization, etc. I do maintain successfull fedora remix 'Hanthana Linux (hanthana.org)'
15:22:09 <hanthana> For the FUDcon KL 2012:
15:22:09 <hanthana> I will give two talks on "Fedora in your school" and "Friends" as listed in the wiki.
15:22:09 <hanthana> First talk is about how we can use Fedora for all generic requirements of a school/college. Such as, ICT Dev, Educational Tools, Adminstration, etc. And the second one is about contributing to other major FOSS projects shiping with Fedora. Such as Mozilla Firefox, Gnome, LibreOffice, etc.
15:22:11 <hanthana> More over I expecting to organize an open discussion on future of Fedora APAC, specially about 2012 plans.
15:22:14 <hanthana> In addiction to above mention activities I could share my experience on remixing Fedora for the workshop of "Fun with LiveCD" as I am maintaining Hanthana Linux, which is successfully released its continues 5th release and running in several schools. And thats listed in distrowatch and linux distribution time line as well.
15:22:18 <hanthana> In addition to that you can count me in as a volunteer on spot.
15:22:34 <rbergeron> okay
15:22:36 <KageSenshi> hanthana, how about cost, whats the latest cost pls ?
15:23:48 <hanthana> 200USD for travel but i recommend to buy my ticket by any of you as we have to pay extra amount since the USD Vs LKR rate is highly increasing
15:24:11 <hanthana> KageSenshi, i would like to share the room
15:24:11 <KageSenshi> ok
15:24:17 <KageSenshi> thanks
15:24:38 <KageSenshi> maktrix, still there ?
15:24:44 <maktrix> yeap
15:25:08 <KageSenshi> maktrix, just briefly describe
15:25:18 <maktrix> I've asked 600 for travel and 200 for accomodation
15:25:34 <maktrix> I'll be doing 2 sessins jointly with rtnpro
15:25:38 <KageSenshi> maktrix, is that the cheapest around?
15:25:45 <maktrix> I'm okay with partial subsidy
15:25:58 <maktrix> no AirAsia flight to and from my country
15:26:05 <KageSenshi> ok
15:26:24 <KageSenshi> thanks :)
15:26:29 <KageSenshi> praveenkumar, you there?
15:26:29 <maktrix> rbergeron: do you want me to preach something about my contributions?
15:27:13 <maktrix> I want rbergeron or KageSenshi to buy my tickets, reimbursment is pain for me. Still waiting for Pune Reimbursment
15:28:10 <KageSenshi> ok
15:28:33 <KageSenshi> maktrix, can i expect some more sessions from you later? :)
15:28:46 <maktrix> yes, ofcourse
15:28:52 <maktrix> if you allow me to do so.
15:29:13 <maktrix> as I've learnt from you; how to arrange on on spot
15:29:14 <maktrix> :)
15:29:18 <KageSenshi> ok :)
15:29:38 <maktrix> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mak
15:29:46 <maktrix> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseParty_F9_Dhaka
15:29:53 <maktrix> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-February/013719.html
15:30:00 <maktrix> http://maktrix.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/asian-university-dhaka-fedora-12-release-party/
15:30:05 <maktrix> http://maktrix.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/fedora-14-talk-and-media-distribution/
15:30:41 <maktrix> planning: http://www.facebook.com/events/354354537938854/
15:30:47 <KageSenshi> cool :)
15:30:50 * callkalpa I'm back
15:31:02 <KageSenshi> maktrix, any more info you would like to add?
15:31:14 <maktrix> and I'm the Bengali l10n project lead on Transifex
15:31:26 <maktrix> have been doing localization for several years for Redhat and Fedora
15:31:35 <maktrix> that's all
15:31:39 <KageSenshi> ok thanks
15:32:05 <maktrix> ***it's dinner time, want to eat
15:32:19 * KageSenshi checks who else are here
15:32:27 <KageSenshi> praveenkumar, you there?
15:32:32 <praveenkumar> KageSenshi: hi :)
15:33:11 <KageSenshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/286
15:33:17 <KageSenshi> #undo
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15:33:25 <KageSenshi> #link praveenkumar request: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/286
15:33:29 <KageSenshi> hi praveenkumar
15:33:35 <praveenkumar> hello KageSenshi
15:33:51 <KageSenshi> could you briefly describe what you wish to contribute and achieve when in fudconkl ?
15:34:20 <praveenkumar> I am contributing to fedora since 2009 as a packager, we orginized many fedora event in our college.
15:34:27 <praveenkumar> I am planning to give a talk on RPM packaging for beginner and also a hack-fest for rpm packaging so that participant can get a exposure on rpm.
15:34:39 <praveenkumar> Currently I am maintaing couple of packages and also working on rename django packages as per guideline, working on fedora tour along with FranciscoD
15:35:02 <praveenkumar> Also have to meet/conversation with fedora-contributors and fedora-Ambassadors and get to know more about feodora community.
15:35:15 <praveenkumar> Attend some interesting talks.
15:35:17 <praveenkumar> eof
15:35:20 <KageSenshi> ok
15:35:33 * rtnpro wonders if we missed https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/284
15:35:57 <KageSenshi> i can see you submitted 2 talks there :) .. you think there can be possibility of more sessions coming from you?
15:36:14 <KageSenshi> rtnpro, sorry, apparently yes, we'll go to you and callkalpa afterwards :)
15:36:24 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, :)
15:36:26 <maktrix> rtnpro: is my co-speaker
15:36:27 <callkalpa> that's fine no prob
15:37:21 <KageSenshi> praveenkumar, i can see you submitted 2 talks there :) .. you think there can be possibility of more sessions coming from you?
15:37:22 <praveenkumar> KageSenshi: well let me think upon it, will update about that
15:37:26 <KageSenshi> praveenkumar, ok
15:37:32 <KageSenshi> next person i guess :)
15:37:54 <KageSenshi> callkalpa,
15:37:59 <callkalpa> hi
15:38:09 <callkalpa> yeah I will be short and sweet :-)
15:38:26 <KageSenshi> #link callkalpa request: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/283
15:38:26 <callkalpa> I am an ambassador for fedora and a packager
15:39:00 <callkalpa> I have contributed in localizing many projects including gnome, kde, suage openoffice, mozilla etc
15:39:14 <callkalpa> This is going to be my first fudcon experince
15:39:34 <callkalpa> I am doing a joint talk with hanthana on "Fedora in your school"
15:39:58 <callkalpa> a discussion on "Friends" - with the collaboration of hanthana
15:40:22 <callkalpa> Apart from that sharing my experience in packaging sugar activities for fedora
15:40:37 <callkalpa> and about SoaS - sugar on a stick
15:40:50 <KageSenshi> callkalpa, ok
15:41:08 <callkalpa> Meeting other fedora contributors in person is another objective
15:41:16 <KageSenshi> callkalpa, whats the current flight prices for you at the moment ?
15:41:19 <callkalpa> I would like to share room
15:41:38 <callkalpa> it's 200USD, i guess
15:41:46 <callkalpa> airasia.com is not loading for me :-(
15:41:53 <KageSenshi> ok
15:42:05 <hanthana> KageSenshi, for all of us udinnet , myself and callkalpa have the same rate ;-)
15:42:09 <callkalpa> but since USD value varies for us a lot these days, I would like someone else to buy me the ticket
15:42:21 <KageSenshi> got it
15:42:51 <KageSenshi> ok
15:42:52 <callkalpa> I would love to talk more on Sugar and SoaS specially
15:42:53 <callkalpa> eof
15:43:03 <KageSenshi> callkalpa, cool :)
15:43:17 <KageSenshi> rtnpro, you're next :)
15:43:26 <rtnpro> Hi all
15:43:47 <KageSenshi> #link rtnpro request https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/284
15:43:59 <rtnpro> I am Ratnadeep Debnath and I contribute to Fedora as an Ambassador, Packager and Developer
15:44:27 <rtnpro> I also contribute to Askbot, Dorrie, Ankur Bangla and Transifex
15:44:40 <rtnpro> well, I also happen to work at Transifex
15:45:46 <rtnpro> I and maktrix are going to take sessions on "l10n  and its importance, challenges, and how Fedora does it using Transifex the cool way"
15:46:16 <KageSenshi> ok
15:46:41 <KageSenshi> rtnpro, usd500 is the current flight cost?
15:46:49 <rtnpro> also, we'll conduct a hackfest on l10n and i18n mainly to show people how to i18n theirs software and how to crowdsource l10n of their software
15:47:04 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, I think less
15:47:23 <KageSenshi> ok
15:47:26 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, I just updated the price details today in my trac ticket
15:48:14 <KageSenshi> 375 ?
15:48:26 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, or 410 USD
15:48:42 <KageSenshi> rtnpro, i noticed that you mention about visa cost
15:48:54 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, I can get it myself ;)
15:49:38 <rtnpro> if required
15:49:45 <KageSenshi> eh wait, sorry, i got confused a bit :) .. the point i was trying to raise was about invitation letter
15:49:48 <KageSenshi> nvm :)
15:49:57 <KageSenshi> rtnpro, so its 410
15:49:58 <KageSenshi> ok
15:50:05 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, yeah
15:50:25 <KageSenshi> india citizen -> you can get 30 days access in a non-referral visa
15:50:44 <KageSenshi> without invitation letter, unless you are applying for business visa, or more than 30 days ..
15:50:51 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, that's great :)
15:51:22 <KageSenshi> rtnpro, ok thanks
15:51:30 <KageSenshi> next person to be interviewed, FranciscoD
15:51:38 <rtnpro> KageSenshi, welcome :)
15:51:47 <FranciscoD> We've revived the fedora-tour project and are working on it steadily. We've held regular meetings and hope to have a release (a tiny one at least) with F17
15:51:54 <FranciscoD> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-tour/wiki/meeting-logs
15:52:12 <FranciscoD> This is top priority on my agenda, to meet ambassadors/users/devs face to face and show them what we've come up with. I intend to collect more contributors at the FUDCon and attempt a hackfest. praveenkumar is a part of the team too.
15:52:27 <FranciscoD> The second topic I'd like to take the the FUDCon is the videos initiative I'm part of. We're a small team currently, and it would be great to have more folks in. A session/lightening talk is the least I intend. If folks there are interested enough, I'd sit with them and make a few new videos too. Obviously, this is different than the FUDCon video :)
15:52:46 <FranciscoD> These two are the current tasks I'm involved in and intend to take to the FUDCon. I'm now pretty active in APAC and would like to sit down with the other APAC ambassadors and work on how to better APAC. We have a page put up here that Tuanta set up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta/FUDCon_KL_2012_BoF_discussion
15:53:07 <FranciscoD> I also intend to take a session on 'troubleshooting your fedora install'. It's just going to be a bunch of tips and tricks that I've learnt by hanging around in #fedora (for quite a few years now)
15:53:24 <FranciscoD> On my past contributions: I've been a contributor for almost 5 years. I recently stepped up to try and help out APAC in its efforts towards improvements. I maintain my packages, help out as a moderator for askfedora and help folks in #fedora with troubleshooting.
15:53:37 <FranciscoD> I will help out KageSenshi and the team where I can. I'm getting there a day early according to the tickets. I worked with some of the folks at FUDCon Pune too, so I know them better than someone I've only talked to over the irc :)
15:53:54 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, i remembered that in fudcon pune you were talking about virtualization and related.. could i get some virt talks from you too ?
15:53:59 <FranciscoD> I travel with praveenkumar , can sleep anywhere you give me place
15:54:10 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: was that me? I don't think so ;)
15:54:23 <KageSenshi> (oh , wrong person XD)
15:54:27 * FranciscoD only knows how to use virt-manager, not internals :P
15:54:29 <KageSenshi> ah
15:54:31 <KageSenshi> that part
15:54:46 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, some virt-manager related talks would be cool too :)
15:55:01 <adimania> KageSenshi, that was amit saha
15:55:27 <KageSenshi> adimania, ah ok, thanks :)
15:56:18 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD_, how about some virt-manager talks?
15:57:27 <KageSenshi> bad connection it seems >.<
15:57:30 <Francisc1D_> sorry, network decides to die at the right time
15:57:40 <Francisc1D_> it was okay till my turn came up :'(
15:57:53 <KageSenshi> Francisc1D_, anyway, can i expect more talks? :)
15:58:08 <Francisc1D_> KageSenshi: I'll be happy to talk about whatever I know :)
15:58:14 <KageSenshi> ok cool :)
15:58:19 <KageSenshi> next person i guess
15:58:24 <KageSenshi> le_termino, still there?
15:58:25 <Francisc1D_> about the visa: I'll like a reference letter if that makes processing faster
15:58:28 <Francisc1D_> eof
15:58:53 <KageSenshi> Francisc1D_, india doesnt need referral letter for less than 30 days entrance
15:59:02 <hanthana> KageSenshi, ping
15:59:12 <KageSenshi> hanthana, pong
15:59:14 <Francisc1D_> KageSenshi: alright, I'll try heading to the concerned office and getting details
15:59:43 <KageSenshi> next person .. le_termino
15:59:51 <hanthana> KageSenshi, please be kind to send an invitation letter to people who visit from  Sri Lanka
15:59:51 <adimania> FranciscoD, i'll accompany you to the office :)
16:00:02 <udinnet> hanthana: +1
16:00:10 <le_termino> hi
16:00:13 * KageSenshi checks the sri lanka requirement
16:00:13 <FranciscoD> adimania: if praveenkumar isn't already :P the bike only takes 2 people ;)
16:00:23 <le_termino> my revised ticket is #292
16:00:25 <le_termino> :)
16:00:51 * FranciscoD heads to cook dinner
16:01:02 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: please ping me anytime if you need additional info
16:01:04 <KageSenshi> udinnet, hanthana : http://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/requirement-for-foreigner?p_p_id=infovisarequirementforeigner_WAR_infovisarequirementforeigner5231&p_p_lifecycle=0&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_infovisarequirementforeigner_WAR_infovisarequirementforeigner5231_struts_action=%2Finfovisarequirementforeigner%2Fvisarequirementforeigner_action&_infovisarequirementforeigner_WAR_infovisarequirementforeigner5231_recId=454&_infovisarequiremen
16:01:05 <KageSenshi> tforeigner_WAR_infovisarequirementforeigner5231_CMD=detail
16:01:11 <KageSenshi> erk thats a long url
16:01:39 <KageSenshi> adimania, hanthana , http://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/requirement-for-foreigner from this site, sri lanka also does not need reference if its less than 30 days
16:01:52 <KageSenshi> le_termino, /me opens ticket
16:02:07 <le_termino> KageSenshi: thanks
16:02:22 <adimania> KageSenshi, I am from India :) udinnet, please check the link above.
16:02:41 <KageSenshi> le_termino, can i know what you would like to contribute & achieve in fudconkl ?
16:02:43 <udinnet> sure let me check
16:02:53 <callkalpa> callkalpa, checking
16:03:14 <KageSenshi> le_termino, also, can you check out airasia and see if you can get cheaper price?
16:03:15 <le_termino> Well,i am a python programmer and a university student
16:03:50 <udinnet> http://www.kln.gov.my/web/lka_colombo/requirement_foreigner
16:03:59 <le_termino> being a fedora user since the last year,i have been inpired by the FOSS community to develop tools using the language i best know : python
16:04:14 <le_termino> so,Kaushal Dasś python talk is of special interest to me
16:04:14 <udinnet> KageSenshi: please check that link
16:04:44 <le_termino> The hackfests mentioned in the wiki are too good to be not attended :)
16:05:20 <udinnet> KageSenshi: According to that link, I think we Sri lankans, need visa
16:05:22 * hanthana_ expecting an invitation letter as he not happy with most  embassies
16:05:33 <KageSenshi> le_termino, could i expect some sessions ran by you ?
16:05:33 <le_termino> i am also applying for Gsoc on behalf of my cg and i want to develop for fedora...so this conference will be a stepping stone to achieve that
16:05:54 <le_termino> Well, KageSenshi if its anything i can contribute in python-i will surely do
16:06:04 <le_termino> any python related stuff for fedora
16:06:45 <KageSenshi> hanthana_, ok .. i can see the requirement for letter there in the social visit part .. i'll get back to you on the letter in a few days maybe ..
16:06:54 <KageSenshi> le_termino, ok
16:07:14 <le_termino> i can also conduct hackfests in conjunction with others if they accept,as some of the topics are which i know
16:07:37 <KageSenshi> ok
16:07:44 <KageSenshi> le_termino, thanks
16:07:50 <le_termino> eof
16:07:53 <udinnet> KageSenshi: ping :)
16:08:03 <KageSenshi> next person who are here .. i guess its soumyac ?
16:08:12 <KageSenshi> final person i guess, then we can start voting
16:08:16 <le_termino> KageSenshi: just wanted an update
16:08:18 <KageSenshi> udinnet, pong
16:08:21 <soumyac> yes KageSenshi
16:08:26 <le_termino> i mean just wanted to give an update
16:08:44 <hanthana_> KageSenshi, thanks
16:08:52 <KageSenshi> le_termino, erm?
16:08:55 <udinnet> KageSenshi: According to this link, I think we Sri lankans, need visa http://www.kln.gov.my/web/lka_colombo/requirement_foreigner
16:09:11 <le_termino> i will be in chennai in may 18th ,so air asia flights are available at $210 approx
16:09:20 <callkalpa> udinnet, +1
16:09:22 <le_termino> s,ican very well take that flight
16:09:26 <KageSenshi> udinnet, yeah , i saw the requirement for letter for social visit
16:09:33 <KageSenshi> le_termino, cool
16:09:41 <soumyac> KageSenshi: regarding what I think or aim to achieve and contribute
16:09:45 <le_termino> plus i can share the room
16:10:00 <le_termino> :)
16:10:14 <soumyac> KageSenshi: Being a Fedora Ambassador and linked up with Fedora related activities from 2007 end
16:10:32 <soumyac> I would like to put on two sessions in Fudcon KL
16:11:37 <soumyac> one is the show or explain the usage of Fedora and localization to reach the maximum students studying local languages in school and are afraid to use computers in general
16:12:09 <le_termino> le_termino: thinks its really cool ;)
16:12:12 <soumyac> that will include on of the examples how we did successfully implement Fedora Core 8 and LTSP for setting up a rural school in my area
16:12:33 <soumyac> http://bijra.dgplug.org/
16:12:59 <soumyac> My next talk relates to my recent contributions to the Q/A platform Ask Fedora
16:13:42 <soumyac> and as bein a moderator just to have a session on how to use it, how to get benefited from it
16:14:03 <KageSenshi> ok
16:14:11 <KageSenshi> sounds cool
16:14:13 <KageSenshi> thanks!
16:14:14 * hanthana would like to meet soumyac in person to discuss about pros & cons of the LTSP deployment to use them in school.hanthana.org
16:14:19 <soumyac> the big part of this session is to attract new contributors towards helping each and every naive and experienced fedora users and developers
16:14:45 <KageSenshi> ok
16:14:47 <soumyac> and also to contribute on the upstream Askbot as rtnpro already is
16:15:01 <KageSenshi> soumyac, thanks :)
16:15:07 <rtnpro> soumyac, +1
16:15:19 * KageSenshi thinks thats all of those who attended tonight
16:15:21 <soumyac> rtnpro: :)
16:15:24 <soumyac> hanthana: sure
16:15:26 <KageSenshi> or is theres anyone else i missed?
16:15:50 <hanthana> soumyac, :)
16:15:51 * udinnet looking at the list
16:15:56 <le_termino> KageSenshi: is the voting over?
16:16:02 <KageSenshi> le_termino, voting is after this
16:16:07 <le_termino> ok
16:16:29 <KageSenshi> all of you provided interesting proposals, and this is going to be tough :)
16:17:06 <KageSenshi> at the moment, we will only be approving about 3k usd in total. and the rest will be at the next approval meeting
16:17:12 <soumyac> KageSenshi: This is a same line my manager uses always during appraisals :)
16:17:49 <KageSenshi> so if you didnt get in this one, there will be another evaluation round
16:17:56 <rbergeron> what's the total amount requested here?
16:18:15 * KageSenshi goes calculate
16:18:24 <soumyac> KageSenshi: I have not included hotel costs in my ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/297
16:18:46 <le_termino> KageSenshi: i havent updated the ticket as i was just saying,shd i do it now?
16:18:51 <KageSenshi> soumyac, i calculated hotel separately, so approvals would mean flight + 1 room
16:19:04 <KageSenshi> we have around 12 beds at the moment :)
16:19:46 <le_termino> KageSenshi: there?
16:19:58 <KageSenshi> yes i'm here, calculating cost a.t.m
16:20:07 <soumyac> KageSenshi: also another request I will travel with my wife so I need a separate room, willing to pay my wife's part of accomodation
16:20:19 <soumyac> incase required
16:20:23 <KageSenshi> ah
16:21:54 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, the current request is 4700
16:22:58 <rbergeron> including hotel or not including hotel?
16:23:01 <KageSenshi> soumyac, i will need to check back, but hotel cost -> ~65usd per night for 2 person room
16:23:03 <le_termino> KageSenshi: just a quick update: my cost is deducted by 300$
16:23:06 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, not including hotel
16:23:10 <inode0> may I ask what percentage of the existing tickets were covered here too?
16:23:32 <rbergeron> (how many tickets are left and what is the total $ left requested?)
16:24:15 <inode0> well, not that much detail
16:24:32 <inode0> there are X total tickets right now, we looked at Y today is enough
16:25:30 <KageSenshi> inode0, 18 ticket requested, 12 ticket being reviewed
16:25:42 <inode0> thanks
16:26:09 <KageSenshi> total requested is usd 7752
16:26:53 <KageSenshi> total being reviewed is usd 4702
16:27:12 <KageSenshi> 6 tickets left unreviewed
16:28:32 <rbergeron> plus we may have other tickets that come in before the request deadline
16:28:38 <KageSenshi> yeap
16:29:39 <KageSenshi> so, lets start voting?
16:29:56 <inode0> who is voting?
16:30:42 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, me, and i think inode0 should join in too
16:31:06 <KageSenshi> the rest here are applicants
16:31:18 <KageSenshi> or should i include applicants too?
16:31:22 * inode0 isn't going to vote, isn't familiar enough with the tickets or the people to feel competent to vote
16:31:53 <KageSenshi> ok
16:32:03 <KageSenshi> that left with me and rbergeron i guess
16:32:15 <rbergeron> and how many tickets are we wanting to approve here? or were we wanting to approve based on a $ amount?
16:32:30 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, approve based on $ amount as you suggested earlier
16:33:08 <KageSenshi> its 3k , which is appox 40% of the allocated plan for sponsoring
16:33:18 * rbergeron tries to find the amount, ah, thank you
16:33:23 * rbergeron was scrolling upwards
16:34:12 <KageSenshi> ok :)
16:34:28 <rbergeron> and the amount approving is including hotel or just plane fare
16:34:51 <KageSenshi> just plane fare, as we already separated allocation for hotel rooms into the main budget
16:34:52 <rbergeron> ie: does the "total requested" include pane fare or just hotel?
16:35:01 <rbergeron> okay
16:35:30 <rbergeron> can we highlight in the spreadsheet what requests we went through real quick?
16:35:31 <KageSenshi> though we have one special case on  soumyac, as he want to have a separate room with his wife
16:35:34 * rbergeron looks through list
16:36:10 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, embarrassed to mention this, i accidentally removed by access when i gave you access to the doc >.<
16:36:17 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, i pm'ed you about it yesterday
16:36:27 <rbergeron> ohhhh
16:36:32 <rbergeron> i didn't see that
16:36:36 <rbergeron> LOL
16:36:52 <KageSenshi> locked myself out :)
16:36:58 <rbergeron> it still says you can edit
16:37:04 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, the sheets are locked
16:37:08 <rbergeron> kagesenshi.87@gmail.com
16:37:09 <rbergeron> ohh
16:37:47 <rbergeron> okay, try now
16:38:09 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, thanks :)
16:39:33 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, those in yellow are those under review today
16:40:55 <KageSenshi> soumyac, can you tell me how many days you'll be here so that i can calculate the hotel cost ?
16:40:57 <rbergeron> yup
16:41:42 <soumyac> KageSenshi: 4 nights I guess
16:41:49 <KageSenshi> MavJS, for a 2 person room, whats the price again? .. 200myr ?
16:42:04 <soumyac> can be 3 too KageSenshi , will let you know by tomorrow
16:42:39 <MavJS> KageSenshi: 170 to 200 RM
16:42:47 <KageSenshi> MavJS, thanks
16:43:23 <soumyac> KageSenshi: I will leave from KL to India probably late than I have mentioned in the ticket, but will leave KL for meeting my friends there in Penang
16:43:35 <KageSenshi> ok
16:44:15 <KageSenshi> soumyac, the cost for room for 4 days is 264usd, and you will have to cover half of it ..
16:44:31 * rbergeron is looking through list
16:44:48 <KageSenshi> soumyac, so that mean your funding request is at 524 usd
16:45:10 <soumyac> okies KageSenshi.
16:45:30 <soumyac> but KageSenshi if I leave on 20th night out of KL
16:45:37 <soumyac> it will be 3 days or 4
16:45:45 <KageSenshi> soumyac, count the nights
16:45:48 <soumyac> 17th, 18th and 19th night
16:45:53 <KageSenshi> 3 nights then
16:45:59 <soumyac> ya 3 nights it may be I will inform you tomm KageSenshi
16:46:03 <soumyac> yup
16:46:16 <KageSenshi> ok
16:46:30 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, so , start voting?.. or are you checking out stuff first?
16:46:54 <rbergeron> so soumyac's hotel funding would be $132?
16:47:05 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, yeah
16:47:31 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, 100 if its 3 nights
16:48:22 <soumyac> KageSenshi: Flight tickets would be bought by you guys only ?
16:48:36 <soumyac> I guess that will be ok
16:49:18 <KageSenshi> soumyac, i'll need to check with harish, but i do want to get us buying the tickets, as reimbursement might be difficult for a number of people
16:49:34 <rbergeron> i will talk to harish
16:49:52 <soumyac> yes that is more proper I beleive
16:50:00 <rbergeron> what you guys did in apac last time was pretty different than how we've done all other fudcons and it was mostly because there was an army of red hat folks in pune that were able to help out
16:50:30 <KageSenshi> XD
16:50:50 <soumyac> yes rbergeron you are right and FudCon Pune reimbursements were also late to few people
16:50:50 <KageSenshi> (rh-my is only 6 person iirc)
16:50:53 <rbergeron> and i have to have a bit of sanity and know what is going on, since at the end of the day, if fudcon is fail, i'm the one responsible, not harish
16:50:56 <udinnet> rbergeron: +1
16:51:40 * KageSenshi nods
16:51:48 <rbergeron> anyway: yes, i'm looking through the tickets
16:52:48 <le_termino> oh well,is the spreadsheet available to view ?
16:52:54 <KageSenshi> le_termino, yes
16:53:02 <le_termino> can u give the link pls?
16:53:15 <udinnet> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkpfWYQJkQB1dHVFRGFyNzg0Vmc2Vnk0czg1c01ma1E#gid=0
16:53:16 <hanthana> le_termino, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkpfWYQJkQB1dHVFRGFyNzg0Vmc2Vnk0czg1c01ma1E#gid=0
16:53:21 <KageSenshi> http://goo.gl/rRVyg
16:53:23 <udinnet> oh!
16:53:27 <udinnet> XD
16:53:45 <rbergeron> do we just want to propose a list of things approved for today
16:53:49 <rbergeron> vs. going through one by one
16:53:59 <rbergeron> since "one by one" tends to result in "well, let's look at the other ones"
16:54:02 <rbergeron> ?
16:54:30 <adimania> rbergeron, KageSenshi amount against my name is incorrect
16:54:31 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, whichever you think best
16:54:53 <KageSenshi> adimania, oops, whats the correct amount again?
16:55:17 <adimania> flight cost as of today is 304 USD
16:55:25 <KageSenshi> adimania, ok thanks
16:55:34 <le_termino> KageSenshi: the amount in front of my name says $210,which meets its only for flight right?
16:55:36 <adimania> you can put it exactly same as FranciscoD and praveenkumar
16:55:42 <KageSenshi> le_termino, yes
16:56:16 <le_termino> KageSenshi: oh thanks
16:57:45 <udinnet> KageSenshi: !
16:57:54 <KageSenshi> udinnet, ?
16:58:17 <udinnet> KageSenshi: the amount in front of my name is 150$ but it should 200$ right?
16:58:23 <KageSenshi> oh yeah
16:58:24 <udinnet> as we discussed
16:58:28 <KageSenshi> latest price
16:58:38 <udinnet> KageSenshi: thanks
17:00:11 <soumyac> KageSenshi: just to drop a single line, if I travel on the coming weekend after the event ... the flight fares may rise by 70 odd dollars .. will that be a problem ?
17:00:57 <KageSenshi> any reason on the change?
17:00:59 <rbergeron> why would you need to travel on the coming weekend?
17:01:51 <soumyac> rbergeron: I told I will be going to Penang to meet my friends from KL, so I will be back on Saturday from Penang to KL and then back to India
17:02:00 <soumyac> in case of issues I am ready to pay the differences
17:02:45 <rbergeron> yeah, i think we'd not be willing to cover that, but if otheres feel differently, speak up
17:03:10 <rbergeron> just as we're not loading the trip for kaio into this budget
17:03:25 <rbergeron> to go to hong kong for that event, we need to keep that stuff separate
17:03:39 <KageSenshi> yeap, +1 on keeping it separate
17:04:27 <rbergeron> and of ourse it makes it a bit harder for us to actually figure out how to pay for it but i guess we can figure it out
17:04:41 <rbergeron> soumyac: so you are not sure if that is confirmed or not?
17:04:48 <soumyac> okies rbergeron, KageSenshi thats fine
17:04:50 <rbergeron> if you are still working out details i'd rather hold on that ticket until next time
17:05:02 <rbergeron> as it adds a bit of complication fto the payment plan
17:05:16 <soumyac> no as its seperate it doesn't matter
17:05:20 <rbergeron> ie: it's hard for me to pay for a portion of teh plane ticket and have you pay the rest
17:05:21 <soumyac> rbergeron: I am done
17:07:01 <soumyac> but rbergeron if I travel from KL late than on Monday the 21st may, how do you suggest me to handle the cost issues then
17:08:28 <rbergeron> i am not sure. which is why i'm suggesting that perhaps we hang on to this ticket for the next time for approval while we try and sort out what exactly is going on
17:08:48 <rbergeron> does the whole plane ticket have to be purchased at once?
17:08:53 <rbergeron> or is it two separate tickets altogether
17:09:11 <soumyac> two seperate tickets definitely rbergeron
17:09:36 <KageSenshi> yeah theres also the question on spouse's ticket
17:09:36 <soumyac> roundtrip doesn't offer any discounts as per my selection in Air Asia
17:09:44 <rbergeron> kagesenshi: spouse's ticket?
17:10:01 <soumyac> rbergeron, KageSenshi : Spouse ticket would be bought by me
17:10:11 <soumyac> that's not an issue
17:10:38 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, eh  .. sorry,  i just thought it will be confusing if they bought it separately, but anyway .. when i think again, its a non-issue
17:10:40 <rbergeron> so it's just that your return airfare would be another $70 USD than normal?
17:10:49 <rbergeron> than if you were travelling directly home
17:10:55 <soumyac> yes rbergeron
17:11:30 * KageSenshi agreeing to push this to next approval meeting due to the details involved ..
17:11:43 <soumyac> rbergeron: the case is I was planning to travel from KL to India on 21st , and Kl to India on 26th it causes 70 $ more
17:11:43 <KageSenshi> (meeting is already beyond 3 hrs)
17:12:11 <rbergeron> yeah. maybe we can figure out something else we can swap the cost on (perhaps he could pay for something onsite in person, etc but we'd need to sort that out, or he'd have to front the cost for travel himself, and then we'd have to sort out the differences, and have someone reimburse)
17:12:17 <rbergeron> kagesenshi: yeah
17:12:34 <maktrix> :)
17:13:28 <soumyac> rbergeron: I can pay the difference in person when I am there in KL in hand
17:13:34 <soumyac> to KageSenshi may be
17:14:30 <KageSenshi> ok, agreed to push this to next approval meeting i guess?
17:14:38 <rbergeron> soumyac: okay, can we figure it out between now and next meeting? and get your ticket updated with the relevant information?
17:14:56 <rbergeron> (ie: sharing a room with just wife instead of with 3 others, need to figure out the extended travel situation, etc)
17:15:10 <soumyac> okay rbergeron sure will do, sorry for keeping you people tossed with my issues for last 20 mins :)
17:15:25 <callkalpa> it's ok :-)
17:15:30 <rbergeron> becuase not all of that is in there and it's really hard for me or harish to figure out what the heck is going on without the detail *in the ticket*, we can't remember everything from meeting to meeting
17:15:32 <maktrix> it's ok :)
17:16:13 <rbergeron> kagesenshi: can you look at what i've got highlighted in the spreadsheet
17:16:33 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, looks good to me
17:17:53 <le_termino> is this a person by person voting?
17:18:10 <le_termino> i mean reviewing 1 person at a time?
17:18:13 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: i think eventually we'll be able to cover pretty much everyone
17:18:42 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, yeah ..
17:20:12 <KageSenshi> le_termino, erm, nope, we're reviewing based on the interview previously, and the budget we have allocated for approval for this meeting
17:20:37 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, so .. i guess thats the result of tonight's meeting?
17:20:47 * FranciscoD hands KageSenshi some hot coffee
17:20:51 <rbergeron> le_termino: aside from the "we need to go back to the drawing board" tickets (kaio and soumyac) i think yours was the only one out of folks present today that we didn't put in here; that said, i think you have a solid app and i'm hopeful we can cover yours in the next meeting, i think that a lot of what we did here was cover people who have very solid plans for presentations and so forth.
17:21:26 <rbergeron> that said, i think that being able to attend and learn is also very valuable, so don't feel like "I MUST BE WILLING TO PRESENT" - you may be inspired on-site, or it may be a good time for you to do gsoc things.
17:21:44 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: can you just hit up the list of what we picked from the list and make sure nobody has any big objections
17:21:52 <KageSenshi> ok
17:22:03 <KageSenshi> the approval list of tonight's meeting is:
17:22:07 <KageSenshi> udinnet
17:22:07 <rbergeron> le_termino: in other words, don't be discouraged, this is usually a multi-meeting long painful process :)
17:22:14 <KageSenshi> mak
17:22:17 <KageSenshi> snavin
17:22:20 <KageSenshi> calkalpa
17:22:23 <KageSenshi> rtnpro
17:22:29 <KageSenshi> kumarpraveen
17:22:31 <KageSenshi> ankur
17:22:40 <KageSenshi> and adimania
17:22:46 <KageSenshi> anybody against the decisions?
17:23:01 <le_termino> rbergeron: thanks,but can you suggest me some presentations that i can surely give,this is my first fedconf iand i really am willing to give presentaitons
17:23:07 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: me?
17:23:12 <FranciscoD> :(
17:23:14 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, ankur :)
17:23:21 <adimania> KageSenshi, from what I see you have allocated only one room with 5 nights capacity. I think all the folks traveling from Bangalore at least will be there for 5 nights.
17:23:25 <FranciscoD> there are two ankurs, aren't there?
17:23:30 <adimania> Am I right on this one FranciscoD ?
17:23:30 * FranciscoD thought so
17:24:06 <FranciscoD> adimania: praveenkumar and me need 5 nights, are you taking the same flight? Also depends on how many people fit in a room. I think KageSenshi said 4 per room?
17:24:16 <callkalpa> Thanks and hope all that were left will get the chance in the next meeting
17:24:28 <adimania> FranciscoD, I'll take the same flight dude.
17:24:30 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, thats you .. :)
17:24:34 <le_termino> can i get a reply pls?
17:24:49 <KageSenshi> adimania, room is for 4 person .. how many are all of you again who need 5 nights?
17:25:01 <FranciscoD> le_termino: it might be a good idea to go over the past few fudcons and look for topics :)
17:25:10 <FranciscoD> le_termino: all the info is on the wiki
17:25:19 <adimania> KageSenshi, I know three including me, FranciscoD, praveenkumar and me
17:25:22 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: oh, that's me? okay :)
17:25:26 <KageSenshi> adimania, that should fit :)
17:25:31 <udinnet> Thanks all of you guys. KageSenshi : specially you guys are doing a great job by organising this :)
17:25:39 <FranciscoD> I'm not used to being called Ankur in fedora related conversations ;)
17:25:41 <hanthana> KageSenshi, you can put udinnet callkalpa and hanthana to same room
17:25:52 <praveenkumar> FranciscoD: now you are :)
17:25:53 <le_termino> KageSenshi: so,can i confirm on a topic for talk and use that for the next review meeting?
17:25:53 <callkalpa> agreed
17:25:59 <KageSenshi> le_termino, yes
17:26:10 * KageSenshi tags info
17:26:14 <le_termino> when is the next meeting scheduled?
17:27:00 <KageSenshi> #info udinnet mak snavin calkalpa rtnpro kumarpraveen ankursinha and adimania approved in tonight's meeting
17:27:10 <KageSenshi> le_termino, thursday night , next week
17:27:31 <le_termino> ok,so for teh topic,shd i add to the list?
17:27:37 <le_termino> in the wiki?
17:27:40 * FranciscoD realizes: oops-> we're still in logging mode
17:27:54 <KageSenshi> le_termino, yes, reply to the ticket, and submit in in fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012 too
17:28:29 <KageSenshi> #info congratulations to those who gets the funding on tonight's meeting
17:28:42 <udinnet> KageSenshi: Thanks :)
17:28:45 <KageSenshi> #action KageSenshi and rbergeron to poke harish on the ticket buying process
17:28:58 <maktrix> +1
17:29:05 <rbergeron> yup. can you update the tickets with which ones were approved?
17:29:14 <KageSenshi> rbergeron, yeah
17:29:20 <rbergeron> thanks
17:29:26 <KageSenshi> i'll do it tomorrow, its 1:30am here now :)
17:29:36 <rbergeron> KageSenshi: totally understood :)
17:29:49 <KageSenshi> i tend to do mistakes when drowsy, like locking myself out from my own spreadsheet
17:29:50 <KageSenshi> XD
17:29:56 <KageSenshi> ok then
17:29:56 <callkalpa> KageSenshi, Thanks
17:30:01 <KageSenshi> #endmeeting