18:15:02 <igorps> #startmeeting 18:15:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Feb 11 18:15:02 2011 UTC. The chair is igorps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:15:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:15:20 <igorps> #chair jsmith tatica aeperezt 18:15:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt igorps jsmith tatica 18:15:37 <igorps> #meetingname fudcon_latam 18:15:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_latam' 18:15:58 <igorps> Ok, today's agenda is here: 18:16:04 <igorps> https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/12 18:16:16 <igorps> first topic: 18:16:37 <igorps> #topic Create FuCon Panama prospectus 18:16:50 <igorps> aeperezt: is this one all done? 18:17:17 <jsmith> This should be pretty easy to copy the majority from the FUDCon Tempe prospectus 18:17:23 <jsmith> (and translate it, of course) 18:17:40 <jsmith> We use the prospectus to help sponsors know what FUDCon is about and how they can help 18:17:47 <jsmith> (paying for meals, travel subsidies, etc.) 18:18:14 <igorps> It looks like there are a lot of things already done :) 18:18:15 <aeperezt> look at that page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Panama_2011_prospectus 18:18:45 <igorps> aeperezt: Do you need any additional information? 18:19:11 <aeperezt> igorps, maybe the focus may change a bit but the other is ok 18:19:26 <jsmith> Looks pretty good to me 18:20:08 <aeperezt> igorps, the Attendance for FUDCon Chile 2010 not sure if that is right 18:20:25 <igorps> I can help updating the focus and the we'll be good to close the task 18:20:34 <aeperezt> ok 18:20:40 <igorps> aeperezt: I think it was a few more 18:20:58 <igorps> I'll check for more accurate information 18:21:22 <igorps> #action igorps to check FUDCon Chile attendance 18:21:24 <aeperezt> igorps, I could not find that information 18:21:47 <tatica> in fact, Chile attendance was much less of what was expected 18:21:49 <tatica> afaik 18:22:07 <tatica> jsmith, do you remember how many people attend to FUDcon Chile? 18:22:19 <igorps> tatica: I don't think it was less then 100 18:22:23 <aeperezt> on that matter we may add Tempe info now 18:22:54 <igorps> I'll contact asalles for the proper information 18:22:55 <tatica> yes I know 18:23:03 <tatica> but at the wiki says (since forever) +1500 18:23:04 <tatica> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY11_Q2_.28June_2010_-_August_2010.29_2 18:23:14 <tatica> which I believe confuses people 18:23:26 <tatica> they may expect a bigger event 18:23:35 <igorps> tatica: for sure it's not that either 18:23:39 <tatica> :) 18:24:18 <igorps> I'll update the page with Tempe information as well 18:24:40 <tatica> thx 18:25:08 <igorps> #action igorps to update the prospectus page with Tempe attendance and improve focus section 18:25:24 <igorps> after that we can close this task 18:25:52 <igorps> aeperezt: any thing else for this topic? 18:26:03 <aeperezt> nop 18:26:10 <igorps> ok, moving on 18:26:31 <igorps> #topic Get confirmation for additional rooms 18:27:10 <igorps> last meeting aeperezt mentioned that might be possible to get additional rooms in a nearby university 18:27:21 <jsmith> tatica: I seem to remember the number was around 120 people or so 18:27:36 <igorps> which I think would be great for hackfests 18:28:16 <igorps> jsmith: I believe so 18:28:34 <igorps> aeperezt: any news on the additional rooms? 18:28:42 <aeperezt> igorps, rewarding that we formally requested this university the area but they have not anwser yeat 18:29:06 <aeperezt> igorps, so we have to wait a bit more 18:29:33 <igorps> aeperezt: do they estipulate a time for giving an answer? 18:30:56 <aeperezt> igorps, I guest one more week this is a government school so they are slow 18:31:10 <igorps> #info Formal request done by aeperezt 18:31:22 <igorps> #info waiting for confirmation 18:31:43 <igorps> aeperezt: I know how it is. Same issue here in Brazil! ;) 18:32:13 <igorps> so next topic 18:32:37 <igorps> #topic Create content survey to find out local community expectations 18:33:03 <igorps> tatica already put some ideas together here: 18:33:12 <igorps> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Panama_2011/es/Survey1 18:33:47 <igorps> tatica: anything you would like to share? 18:34:37 <tatica> well, the mockup is there 18:34:44 <igorps> I thing that rbergeron suggestion is a good way to go 18:34:59 <tatica> diana should be working on that and next week the poll will be set 18:35:08 <tatica> so next week we can start with the survey/popll 18:35:09 <tatica> poll 18:35:14 <tatica> yup 18:35:23 <tatica> I will be asking more opinions this weekend 18:35:57 <igorps> Having a comprehensive gradation between less and most wanted is good 18:36:30 <tatica> yup 18:37:35 <igorps> I would like to know what people thing about a translation/documentation hackfest for instance 18:37:52 <jsmith> I think it's a great idea 18:37:59 <jsmith> I could certainly help with the documentation side 18:38:06 <gomix> me too 18:38:35 <igorps> jsmith, gomix: that would be really helpful 18:38:40 <tatica> the idea is to know what people expect 18:38:54 <tatica> and provide what they really want to learn and help with 18:39:29 <gomix> my only question is ... what people? actual users and developers? or generla potential attendees? (escuse my ignorance) 18:39:38 <tatica> all people 18:39:39 <igorps> tatica: the hackfets could be just a suggestion as a nice to have thing 18:39:48 <tatica> because we will have all kind of people at fudcon 18:39:52 <aeperezt> tatica that is a great idea to see what would be better to have 18:39:52 <igorps> so we can know what they think about 18:40:40 <gomix> tatica: fine for me, i just want to know its a open poll ... (we can miss the point of a fudcon, but can become popular) 18:40:50 <tatica> so rbergeron suggestion was to collapse the questions for teams 18:41:11 <tatica> I will probably use http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join 18:41:20 <igorps> tatica: +1 18:41:50 <igorps> This is good because once at a FUDCon people will have to prioritize some subjects 18:42:08 <igorps> since they can't be everywhere 18:42:19 <tatica> yup, and that will help to take the decitions about the proposal (and also help people to know what to propose) 18:42:37 <tatica> and we can focus on do, instead "wonder if people will be interested on..." 18:44:11 <igorps> This is a fair approach but I would not exclude suggestions for interesting subjects as well 18:45:24 <igorps> So, next week we will have a better idea on how the survey will look like 18:45:41 <igorps> next topic 18:46:06 <igorps> #topic FUDCon Panama booklet content 18:46:37 <jsmith> I'm working on the introduction letter 18:46:45 <igorps> So, potty has the translation of the booklet in Spanish 18:47:19 <igorps> jsmith: nice! 18:47:23 <aeperezt> Haks, is working to customize the cover, amonthoth also translate it to spanish with potty so that part is done 18:47:32 <jsmith> :-) 18:47:47 <jsmith> I'll have the letter over by Monday so that it can be translated 18:47:51 <igorps> I added a draft of the hackfest information on Trac 18:48:01 <igorps> #link http://igor.fedorapeople.org/FUDCon/Panama/hackfest.txt 18:48:03 <jsmith> (no estoy seguro que puedo hacerlo en buen castillano) 18:48:15 <igorps> both in English and Portuguese 18:48:21 <aeperezt> jsmith, thanks 18:48:30 * tatica will work on the booklet design tomorrow with the Panamá team :D 18:48:34 <igorps> jsmith: someone can review later, no problem :) 18:49:17 <aeperezt> jsmith, if you think you can I know amonthoth can check it for you 18:49:27 <igorps> I would like to have the English text revised by someone later as well 18:49:32 <jsmith> :-) 18:50:24 <igorps> additional information for hackfests can be found here: 18:50:30 <igorps> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_hackfest 18:50:51 <igorps> this is a huge text, so I decided to keep it simple and short for our booklet 18:51:23 <igorps> Focusing more on examples for those ones who have never been in a hackfest before 18:51:42 <tatica> igorps, I think tha we can collapse it a little tomorrow and add the link 18:51:47 <tatica> the complete information IS important 18:51:53 <tatica> but won't fit the booklet 18:52:17 <igorps> I wrote the draft but I'll wiling to improve it soon 18:52:33 <aeperezt> great igorps 18:52:38 <igorps> tatica: would be nice to know how many characters it should have 18:52:48 <tatica> I'm +1 to have a really long explanation for the curious people 18:52:49 <igorps> to give a notion of space 18:53:04 * tatica will update the information tomorrow (or tonight) 18:53:13 <tatica> depending on how the trip comes 18:53:49 <igorps> tatica: I'd rather keep simple in the booklet and point to the wiki link for further information 18:54:15 <igorps> It depends on the space, actually 18:54:32 <tatica> yes, +1 18:55:35 <igorps> #info Spanish translation of Tempe booklet is done 18:55:56 <igorps> #info Hackfest information added to Track ticket 18:56:41 <igorps> #action tatica will work on the design with Panama team 18:57:14 <igorps> good to know that our booklet is coming together :) 18:57:37 <igorps> aeperezt: anything else to add here? 18:58:52 <aeperezt> nop 18:59:57 <igorps> So if nobody else has anything else to add I'm closing the meeting in 30 secs 19:00:40 <tatica> internet ports? 19:00:49 <tatica> any info about that? 19:01:00 <aeperezt> tatica, they have not responded that yeat 19:01:04 <tatica> oki 19:01:12 * tatica has no more questions :D 19:01:32 <dgilmore> sorry i had another meeting that went over 19:02:06 <igorps> dgilmore: we still have some time if you would like to point something out :) 19:03:38 <igorps> I'm sending the meeting logs to fudcon-planning ml right after the meeting so you can catch up too ;) 19:03:50 <dgilmore> igorps: just reading back 19:04:34 <dgilmore> igorps: as to the additional rooms i think we can make it work without them 19:05:06 <igorps> dgilmore: Yes, definitely 19:05:10 <dgilmore> igorps: we could do day 1 as a regular conference, ending the day with a session on what is a barcamp/hackfest 19:05:17 <dgilmore> igorps: then day w do barcamp 19:05:21 <dgilmore> day 2 19:05:27 <dgilmore> then day 3 hackfests 19:05:40 <dgilmore> help introduce the concepts 19:05:59 <igorps> sounds like a good plan to me 19:06:35 <igorps> if we get additional rooms we can have more parallel hackfests 19:06:51 <dgilmore> i think that with the rooms as organised we can pull that off 19:07:18 <igorps> but if we don't it will turn out good anyway 19:07:51 <igorps> dgilmore: may other rooms can be useful for other things too 19:07:58 <dgilmore> ill be happy to give a talk on barcamp/hackfests in spanish 19:08:27 <igorps> I'd like to wait for the confirmation so we can plan the schedule with all resources 19:08:36 <dgilmore> sure 19:08:55 <igorps> dgilmore: I'm looking forward to watch that! 19:09:09 <dgilmore> igorps: even if we get the rooms i think it will be useful to do the talk on what a barcamp/hackfest is 19:09:11 <aeperezt> dgilmore, that is a good plan, if we have the extra space it will not harm it so we paln without them and if we got them have more space, that it will also depend on the amount of people that will be on the fudcon 19:09:52 <dgilmore> aeperezt: :) 19:09:58 <igorps> dgilmore: sure, this something we need to keep in mind for sure 19:10:15 <igorps> we are planning to include this information on the booklet as well 19:10:22 <dgilmore> :) great 19:10:44 <tatica> aeperezt, we will need a map of the CDS for the booklet 19:10:50 <tatica> I will like to do something like this: 19:11:35 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/4586327917/in/set-72157613879453535/ 19:11:59 <dgilmore> tatica: that is fancy :) 19:12:15 <igorps> wow yeah! 19:12:22 <tatica> is easy if I have the information, will take me only one weekend (with a video I mean) 19:12:40 * amonthoth says hello for fudcon panama 2011 supporters 19:12:46 <tatica> amonthoth, hulas! 19:12:51 <igorps> hello amonthoth! 19:13:42 <amonthoth> igorps, tatica, hi 19:14:11 <amonthoth> i was checking Plano del ISEIT 19:14:19 <igorps> amonthoth: anything you would like to share regarding the booklet? 19:15:00 <amonthoth> igorps, i put my 0.02 cents in dropbox. 19:15:27 <dgilmore> i dont think i have anything else right now 19:15:35 <amonthoth> oh, i could not share with you because do not have your mail 19:15:58 <amonthoth> igorps, do you have the hackfest article ? 19:16:16 <igorps> amonthoth: you can send to igorsoares@gmail.com 19:16:17 <amonthoth> to include in the booklet ? 19:16:27 <igorps> yep, I have a draft 19:16:34 <dgilmore> amonthoth: a good place to share your thoughts on fudcon planning issues is the fudcon planning list 19:16:42 <igorps> I would like to know how much space we have for that 19:16:54 <igorps> so I can expand it as possible 19:17:04 <tatica> or, you can upload it to the wiki and link it to the ticket 19:17:12 <igorps> the draft is on the task on track 19:17:24 <dgilmore> amonthoth: please send to fudcon-planning@lists.fedoraproject.org 19:17:36 <igorps> tatica: +1 19:17:48 <aeperezt> yes we are getting that info 19:17:48 <amonthoth> it's the booklet spanish translation draft 19:18:04 <dgilmore> amonthoth: the list or trac are perfect for it 19:18:13 <igorps> amonthoth: you can do it like I did for the hackfest description 19:18:20 <aeperezt> but ciudad del saber is a big campus 19:18:28 <amonthoth> dgilmore, ok 19:19:00 <tatica> aeperezt, np... just need the map with the aprooved locations, and if is possible, a map of how are the rooms inside 19:19:12 <tatica> I can do several maps just for fun 19:19:19 <amonthoth> igorps, need the hackfest description to translate it to spanish 19:19:20 <aeperezt> take a look http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=8.999874,-79.583287&spn=0.01954,0.042272&z=15 19:19:54 <igorps> amonthoth: we are placing things here: 19:19:58 <aeperezt> that is the area 19:20:00 <igorps> https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/116 19:20:21 <tatica> aeperezt, yes, can you take a screenshot and mark the fudcon areas? 19:20:40 <igorps> #link http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=8.999874,-79.583287&spn=0.01954,0.042272&z=15 19:20:49 <tatica> like "here is the restaurant", here are the villages, here the big room and here the small room 19:20:58 <tatica> what will make much easier to know what's each place 19:21:02 <aeperezt> yes, I have that done already 19:21:12 <dgilmore> aeperezt: i dont think we can use google maps. not without violating copyright 19:21:13 <aeperezt> need to do it pretty 19:21:28 <aeperezt> ho 19:21:35 <aeperezt> I think we can use openmaps 19:21:38 <tatica> aeperezt, :D <3 19:21:41 <aeperezt> they also have that 19:21:45 <tatica> aeperezt, send it to me, and I will check it tomorrow 19:22:49 <igorps> it's a good idea to check how the Tempe map was made 19:23:07 <igorps> it was pretty clear and helpful 19:23:14 <aeperezt> tatica, i will have redo it with open maps 19:23:14 * tatica follow that process, can help 19:23:34 <tatica> even so, we will need a good quality full image to add to the booklet 19:23:35 <dgilmore> igorps: yep 19:23:36 <aeperezt> amonthoth, llegaste viejo 19:23:39 <tatica> lol 19:24:20 <amonthoth> aeperezt, casi no llego 19:24:50 <igorps> we can work on that and post our finding on track and fudcon-planning 19:25:11 <aeperezt> tatica, este seria en openmaps http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.99871&lon=-79.58255&zoom=16&layers=M solo tengo que marcar las areas 19:25:31 * tatica usa openstreetmap para el flisol :D 19:25:41 <igorps> #link http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.99871&lon=-79.58255&zoom=16&layers=M 19:27:02 <igorps> anybody would like add something else? 19:27:06 <amonthoth> openstreets looks pretty nice and clearer 19:27:19 <tatica> osm is awesome 19:27:29 <igorps> please post your finding on the mailing list and track during the week 19:27:52 <igorps> so everybody knows what is going on ;) 19:28:15 <dgilmore> yep 19:28:22 <igorps> Thank you all for attending! 19:28:31 <tatica> :) 19:28:35 <igorps> #endmeeting