13:06:14 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2020-09-21
13:06:14 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Sep 21 13:06:14 2020 UTC.
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13:06:22 <FranciscoD> #meetingname neurofedora
13:06:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora'
13:06:36 <FranciscoD> #chaiir MeWjOr gicmo zbyszek bt0
13:06:40 <FranciscoD> #chair MeWjOr gicmo zbyszek bt0
13:06:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr bt0 gicmo zbyszek
13:06:46 <FranciscoD> Sorry folks on telegram, can't chair you :/
13:07:05 <FranciscoD> #topic Agenda
13:07:12 <FranciscoD> #info New introductions and roll call
13:07:19 <FranciscoD> #info Tasks from last week's meeting
13:07:24 <FranciscoD> #info Open Pagure tickets
13:07:28 <FranciscoD> #info Open bugs
13:07:34 <FranciscoD> #info CompNeuro lab compose check
13:07:41 <FranciscoD> #info Neuroscience query of the week
13:07:47 <FranciscoD> #info Next meeting date/time/chair
13:07:51 <FranciscoD> #info Open floor
13:07:58 <FranciscoD> Did I miss anything?
13:08:04 <gicmo> looks good
13:08:18 <FranciscoD> awesome, let's start with the first one then
13:08:26 <FranciscoD> #topic New introductions and roll call
13:08:38 <FranciscoD> #info Please go: Name, FAS, Fedora activity, etc etc etc
13:09:10 <FranciscoD> #info Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD), ankursinha, (UTC +1), NeuroFedora, packaging, lots of other random Fedora related tasks
13:09:16 <FranciscoD> forgot "timezone" in there
13:10:01 <MeWjOr> # Aniket Pradhan (MeWjOr), major (+5:30), packaging?
13:10:14 <tg-fedneuro1> <b​t0dotninja> #info Alberto Rodriguez; bt0dotninja (UTC-5), CommOps, Mindshare, catlover, And more
13:10:27 <purusharths> Purusharth Saxena, purusharths, UTC+5:30, little bit of packaging?
13:10:29 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: forgot the info command? :P
13:10:32 <FranciscoD> #chair purusharths
13:10:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr bt0 gicmo purusharths zbyszek
13:10:41 <MeWjOr> #info Aniket Pradhan (MeWjOr), major (+5:30), packaging?
13:10:45 <MeWjOr> lol
13:10:49 <FranciscoD> purusharths:  you can use the info command too now :)
13:10:57 <purusharths> #info Purusharth Saxena, purusharths, UTC+5:30 did a little bit of packaging?
13:11:13 <MeWjOr> bt0: never knew you were into cats
13:11:15 <FranciscoD> awesome, I'll wait another 2 minutes and proceed to the next topic
13:11:29 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: we're all cat lovers :P
13:11:33 <FranciscoD> and dog lovers
13:11:37 <gicmo> yes!
13:11:46 <MeWjOr> YES!
13:12:22 <tg-fedneuro1> <b​t0dotninja> Yeah
13:13:41 * bt0 is in IRC now :P
13:13:52 <FranciscoD> already chaired, yay
13:13:56 <FranciscoD> bt0++
13:13:58 <FranciscoD> purusharths++
13:13:58 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for purusharths changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):
13:14:01 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr++
13:14:02 <FranciscoD> gicmo++
13:14:16 <FranciscoD> we're almost in beta: use your cookies or lose them
13:14:18 <FranciscoD> !
13:14:23 <gicmo> \o/
13:14:29 <FranciscoD> OK, next topic then
13:14:31 <MeWjOr> FranciscoD++
13:14:31 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Karma for ankursinha changed to 14 (for the current release cycle):
13:14:39 <MeWjOr> gicmo++
13:14:47 <FranciscoD> #topic Tasks from last week's meeting
13:14:59 <FranciscoD> #unfo
13:15:00 <FranciscoD> #undo
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13:15:03 <MeWjOr> purusharths++
13:15:03 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Karma for purusharths changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):
13:15:07 <FranciscoD> #topic Tasks from last meeting
13:15:11 <FranciscoD> it wasn't last week XD
13:15:17 <FranciscoD> #info Logs from last meeting:
13:15:25 <bt0> purusharths++
13:15:25 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for purusharths changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):
13:15:43 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD ping for updates: DONE: still waiting on reply so will need to ping/poke more
13:15:58 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD ping for updates again
13:16:21 <gicmo> FranciscoD++
13:16:21 <zodbot> gicmo: Karma for ankursinha changed to 15 (for the current release cycle):
13:16:24 <FranciscoD> #info MeWjOr file a tracker ticket for FOSDEM: DONE
13:16:28 <gicmo> MeWjOr++
13:16:28 <zodbot> gicmo: Karma for major changed to 5 (for the current release cycle):
13:17:00 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD fix libneurosim: PENDING: needs some more work
13:17:06 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD fix libneurosim:
13:17:14 <FranciscoD> that was all from last week
13:17:27 <FranciscoD> anything that we hadn't logged?
13:17:57 <FranciscoD> #topic Open Pagure tickets
13:18:05 <FranciscoD> #info Tagged "next meeting":
13:18:10 <FranciscoD> not much urgent here
13:18:21 <gicmo> FranciscoD: "configure: error: No sensible MPI setup found." .. not depending on the right MPI lib?
13:18:40 <FranciscoD> gicmo: yeh, something must've changed in the mpi macros maybe :/
13:19:00 <gicmo> FranciscoD: that happened to cmake macros for me on F33, lots of things blew up
13:19:25 <FranciscoD> Yeh, could just be that. I updated NEST to fix all that, so may just be another simple spec update
13:19:38 <FranciscoD> #info : Why are we maintaining PEGTL?
13:19:40 <gicmo> *fingers crossed*
13:19:48 <FranciscoD> is anyone using pegtl, or is it relevant to neuroscience?
13:20:17 <FranciscoD> I think I took it up because it was needed by something, but not anymore
13:20:25 <FranciscoD> unless I have my repoquery command wrong
13:20:29 <MeWjOr> Couldn't we look that up on koschei?
13:20:58 <gicmo> I have never even heard of it
13:21:00 <FranciscoD> koschei tells us if the deps for a package are fine, no?
13:21:06 <FranciscoD> not what depends on a package?
13:21:18 <FranciscoD> gicmo: same here, was on my FTBFS list so I fixed it
13:21:23 <FranciscoD> but not sure why the neuro-sig is maintaining it
13:21:30 <gicmo> yeah, fair point
13:21:34 <FranciscoD> I can ask on the -devel list if someone wants to take over, otherwise I'll drop it
13:21:35 <MeWjOr> it also tells us that which packages are dependant on the said package, no?
13:21:53 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: hrm, not sure, take a look
13:22:00 <FranciscoD> i thought it was only what a package depends on, not vice versa
13:22:16 <MeWjOr> nah... it doesnt give us that info
13:22:18 <FranciscoD> but the repoquery command *seems* correct
13:22:36 <gicmo> FranciscoD: just looked via repoquery myself, seems nothing requires it, no?
13:22:38 <FranciscoD> OK, I guess I'll ask on the -devel list if anyone is using pegtl, and if not, I'll orphan it
13:22:45 <gicmo> good plan
13:22:46 <FranciscoD> gicmo: yeh, leaf package, and not neuro related
13:22:59 <tg-fedneuro1> <b​t0dotninja> +1
13:23:25 <FranciscoD> #action query -devel list for PEGTL ownership, orphan if no interest
13:23:35 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- ankursinha assigned ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#393 to ankursinha
13:23:57 <FranciscoD> #info : NeuroFedora reading/listening list
13:24:05 <FranciscoD> nothing new here, unfortunately
13:24:38 <FranciscoD> Lots of new stuff on planet-neuroscientists:
13:24:46 <FranciscoD> but I haven't identified anything interesting recently
13:25:29 <FranciscoD> #topic Open NeuroFedora bugs:
13:25:37 <FranciscoD> #info List of NeuroFedora bugs:
13:26:35 <FranciscoD> #info if you login to RHBZ, you can also add it to your "links" by going to preferences > saved searches
13:26:53 <FranciscoD> i.e., it's a public search that anyone can use
13:26:59 <gicmo> ohh nice idea
13:28:00 <FranciscoD> there are only two FTBFS bugs
13:28:09 <FranciscoD> #info FTBFS: vrpn:
13:28:20 <FranciscoD> #info FTBFS: neurord:
13:28:33 <FranciscoD> I think we've given up on neurord---the deps are java bits that arent in fedora any more
13:28:37 <FranciscoD> or so it was when I'd last checked
13:28:42 <FranciscoD> zbyszek: ^
13:29:07 <FranciscoD> vrpm fails to build with the new openjdk, so I don't know how much work it is to fix either
13:29:15 <FranciscoD> also not directly neuro related by the way, from the looks of it
13:29:28 <FranciscoD> so I personally wouldn't mind removing it from our packages
13:29:38 <FranciscoD> #info vrpn:
13:30:50 <gicmo> *nods*
13:31:09 <FranciscoD> I guess I can ping the primary maintainer?
13:31:15 <MeWjOr> Seems like the upstream is also kinda inactive
13:31:18 <FranciscoD> and if they're not active, we remove neuro-sig from this too?
13:31:25 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: ah, that's also a bad sign then
13:31:38 <MeWjOr> Could someone repoquery it, and check if it
13:31:49 <MeWjOr> if its a dep of any neuro packages*
13:32:27 <FranciscoD> on it,
13:32:57 <FranciscoD> dnf is doing its thing
13:33:47 <gicmo> Metadata refresh ...
13:33:56 <FranciscoD> noop, nothing seems to depend on it
13:34:10 <gicmo> sounds like a plan
13:34:17 <tg-fedneuro1> <b​t0dotninja> Yep
13:34:17 <MeWjOr> lol
13:34:40 <FranciscoD> I mean if we orphan it, the "packges looking for new maintainers" notification will tell is if we need it again XD
13:35:03 <MeWjOr> that's another way lol
13:35:17 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD ping primary vrpn maintainer, and remove neuro-sig from package
13:35:18 <purusharths> Ah, okay
13:35:42 <FranciscoD> all the other bugs are updates---please work on them and update the packages
13:35:51 <FranciscoD> or open PRs if you're unsure about anything
13:36:15 <FranciscoD> Do note that Igor isn't working on neuro packages at all, so anything assigned to Igor is up for grabs
13:36:45 <FranciscoD> #topic CompNeuro lab compose status check for F33/F34
13:37:35 <FranciscoD> waiting for koji
13:37:55 <MeWjOr> doomed?
13:39:17 <FranciscoD> don't think so, no pagure ticket
13:39:26 <FranciscoD> I just can't remember what task type I need to check
13:39:44 <FranciscoD> createImage was it?
13:40:26 <gicmo> or just "image"
13:40:34 <FranciscoD> yeh, perhaps
13:40:34 <gicmo> the createImage ones are the per-platform individual ones
13:40:40 <gicmo> "image" should be the parent
13:40:52 <FranciscoD> awesome, looking
13:41:32 <FranciscoD> there are a lot of releng tasks!
13:41:51 <gicmo> heh
13:42:17 <FranciscoD> right, I remembered the search box
13:42:19 <FranciscoD>*Comp_Neuro*
13:42:57 <FranciscoD> #info Latest rawhide image: 2020-09-21, so looks OK
13:43:18 <FranciscoD> #info Latest F33 image: 2020-09-20, so also looks OK
13:43:39 <FranciscoD> #info Both F33 and F34 comp-neuro images are building fine
13:43:51 <FranciscoD> #info URL for images:*Comp_Neuro*
13:44:05 <FranciscoD> #topic Neuroscience query of the week
13:44:11 <FranciscoD> Anything here? :D
13:44:20 <gicmo> should also work
13:44:45 <FranciscoD> Ah, it's also classified as a package?
13:44:47 * FranciscoD didn't know
13:44:49 <FranciscoD> That's much better
13:45:14 <FranciscoD> #info Better link for Comp-Neuro builds:
13:45:39 <gicmo> (and the task is "livemedia" for the record ;)
13:45:51 <FranciscoD> I have nothing for this topic, but I'll wait for everyone in case they do
13:46:03 <FranciscoD> #info Image compose task is "livemedia" on koji
13:46:15 <gicmo> <3
13:46:34 <FranciscoD> OK, next topic then
13:46:42 <FranciscoD> #topic Next meeting time and date, chair
13:46:49 <FranciscoD> Same time in two weeks work for everyone?
13:47:17 <FranciscoD> purusharths: if you'll be around, do you want to chair? It's quite easy as you've seen :P
13:47:36 <purusharths> yeah i'll be here. I can give it a shot
13:47:43 <purusharths> :p
13:47:44 <FranciscoD> awesome!
13:47:50 <MeWjOr> 2 weeks same time is great...
13:47:56 <FranciscoD> #info purusharths chair next meeting, same time in two weeks
13:48:05 <tg-fedneuro1> <b​t0dotninja> Cool
13:48:08 <FranciscoD> purusharths: I'll remind you to send out a reminder etc, so don't worry :P
13:48:18 <purusharths> Oh, great! thanks :p
13:48:31 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs
13:48:40 <FranciscoD> I forgot to tweet about our meeting today
13:48:47 * FranciscoD adds to reminders too
13:48:52 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor
13:49:00 <FranciscoD> anything else? We have 12 minutes!
13:49:17 <FranciscoD> Note that today is the F33 upgrade test day:
13:49:24 <FranciscoD> if you're on F32, please test upgrading
13:49:34 * FranciscoD has it all downloaded, will run the upgrade at the end of the work day
13:49:57 <FranciscoD> #info NWB user days is going on:
13:50:08 <FranciscoD> they'll put all the videos up later, so no need to worry if you didn't register
13:50:26 <MeWjOr> I already shifted to F33. because I wanted to try out py3.9 :P
13:50:42 <purusharths> \me Downloading f33
13:50:43 <FranciscoD> haha, yeh, me too
13:50:45 <FranciscoD> nice
13:50:55 <FranciscoD> #info OCNS Infra/tools/software SIG is taking off:
13:51:01 <MeWjOr> although, downloading packages from pypi is a PITA given it has to build the wheels manually now
13:51:02 <MeWjOr> XD
13:51:04 <FranciscoD> that's all the announcements for me
13:51:05 <purusharths> btw, not sure if it's off topic but i need to pick up he left off, need to review some packages. any suggestions in neuro-fedora?
13:51:28 <FranciscoD> purusharths: I don't think we've got any in the review queue at the minute
13:51:36 <purusharths> alright
13:51:48 <MeWjOr> purusharths, I will be pushing some packages in this or next week...
13:51:51 <FranciscoD> maybe take up some new simpler ones to package?
13:51:53 <FranciscoD>
13:52:00 <FranciscoD> look for the "good first issue" ones
13:52:11 <purusharths> Okay
13:52:13 <FranciscoD> *should* be easy
13:52:13 <purusharths> sure
13:52:46 <FranciscoD> I'll wait another 3 minutes and close if there's nothing else
13:52:53 <FranciscoD> always good to finish a meeting on or before time :P
13:53:08 <gicmo> True!
13:53:24 <FranciscoD> Note that pagure has boards now
13:53:33 <FranciscoD> so you can use the kanban board we've setup for tasks:
13:53:49 <purusharths> fancy
13:54:03 <FranciscoD> yeh, helps get quick overview of what's happening
13:54:29 <bt0> omg i dint notice that
13:55:07 <FranciscoD> bt0: we only ran into it by mistake the other day XD
13:55:30 <FranciscoD> OK, I'll close now.
13:55:31 <bt0> lol
13:55:38 <FranciscoD> Thanks for coming everyone. We'll see you in two weeks
13:55:52 <FranciscoD> if there's anything in the meatime, please use the channel/ML etc to get in touch with the team
13:55:56 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting