14:15:07 <KageSenshi> #startmeeting
14:15:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar 27 14:15:07 2012 UTC.  The chair is KageSenshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:15:13 <KageSenshi> #meetingname fudcon kl 2012
14:15:13 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_kl_2012'
14:15:20 <KageSenshi> #topic roll call
14:15:23 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
14:15:23 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
14:15:28 <sweemeng> .fas sweemeng
14:15:29 <TYSSeries> .fas tysseries
14:15:29 <zodbot> sweemeng: sweemeng 'sweemeng' <sweester@gmail.com>
14:15:30 <Alvisyu> .fas alvisyu
14:15:32 <vinz007> .fas vinz007
14:15:34 <zodbot> TYSSeries: tysseries '' <tys1992@gmail.com>
14:15:35 <meng> .fas seatux
14:15:37 <zodbot> Alvisyu: alvisyu 'Yu Kang Wei' <alvisyu6421@gmail.com> - almol '' <alvisyu89@hotmail.com>
14:15:41 <zodbot> vinz007: vinz007 'Tee Chin Ka' <teechinka@gmail.com>
14:15:45 <kulll> .fas kulll
14:15:45 <zodbot> meng: seatux 'Meng Shen' <seatux86@gmail.com>
14:15:46 <MavJS> .fas MavJS
14:15:49 <zodbot> kulll: kulll 'khairul anwar' <anwarbaik88@gmail.com>
14:15:53 <zodbot> MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' <mavjs01@gmail.com>
14:16:10 <rebelk0de> .fas gurdip
14:16:11 <zodbot> rebelk0de: rebelk0de 'Gurdip Singh' <rebelkode@gmail.com> - gurdip 'Gurdip Singh' <gurdip@gandhara.org>
14:16:24 <rebelk0de> heh, now i have two accts
14:16:24 <KageSenshi> anymore?
14:16:28 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, :P
14:16:33 <MavJS> rebelk0de: :D
14:16:35 * KageSenshi ping Jsr
14:16:41 <rebelk0de> .fas rebelk0de
14:16:42 <zodbot> rebelk0de: rebelk0de 'Gurdip Singh' <rebelkode@gmail.com>
14:16:59 <KageSenshi> ok
14:17:20 <KageSenshi> #link Agenda is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-03-27
14:17:32 <KageSenshi> #topic Announcements
14:17:35 <KageSenshi> ok
14:18:34 <KageSenshi> thheres no real announcement at the moment, but .. heres a little stuff we need to be aware related for this meeting
14:19:12 <KageSenshi> #info from the budget document, we might go overbudget. we probably need to hunt for sponsorship
14:19:39 <rebelk0de> !
14:19:40 <KageSenshi> #info theres a dangerously bad status with the promo team
14:20:15 <rebelk0de> is sponsorship allowed? I thought the only thing allowed was "sponsor in kind"?
14:20:24 <rebelk0de> eof
14:20:42 <KageSenshi> #info its been quite idle, and i dont see any actions done in the mailing list, from the coordinator, neither the team members .. we seriously need to reorganize the promo team
14:20:58 <KageSenshi> theres some designs, but its a blocker design
14:21:02 <KageSenshi> i mean
14:21:14 <KageSenshi> the design is blocking other tasks, due to the coordinator doesnt delegate
14:21:34 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, yes, only in kind .. finding someone to pay for food is in kind
14:21:35 <KageSenshi> :)
14:21:39 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, or pay for all t-shirts
14:21:50 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, or pay for bus
14:21:55 <rebelk0de> noted
14:22:09 <KageSenshi> we simply doesnt take cash
14:22:11 <rebelk0de> the bus part is something i can ask - but cant promise as we've outsourced our buses
14:22:23 <rebelk0de> will ask about the bus tho
14:22:29 <sweemeng> do we even have time for sponsor
14:22:32 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, can i have a dateline ?
14:22:44 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, foss.my was done in 1 month
14:22:55 <sweemeng> ok
14:23:02 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, so .. well .. that implies, if theres a will, theres a way :)
14:23:27 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, can i have a dateline on when i can get this information?
14:24:16 <rebelk0de> as mentioned a few mins before meeting, we have a few questions about the bus
14:24:27 <KageSenshi> #topic questions / decisions
14:24:31 <KageSenshi> #info bus information
14:24:37 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, what are the questions ?
14:24:39 <rebelk0de> 1. where does the bus need to go? LRT - APIIT, APIIT - LRT. Anywhere else?
14:24:58 <MavJS> !
14:25:06 <rebelk0de> how many buses required?
14:25:06 <KageSenshi> APIIT<->LRT and APIIT<->Hotel Sri Petaling
14:25:17 <rebelk0de> so 2 buses?
14:25:45 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, to hotel sri petaling, we only need the bus to pick during start of the day , and drop during end of the day
14:25:59 <rebelk0de> all information on the bus can be provided by thursday / friday based on information collected here :)
14:26:09 <rebelk0de> KageSenshi, noted
14:26:10 <MavJS> X
14:26:19 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, while for the lrt, we can use the same bus if we time it right i think
14:26:22 <KageSenshi> MavJS, yep ?
14:26:33 <MavJS> KageSenshi: request withdrawn ;)
14:26:38 <KageSenshi> MavJS, ok :)
14:26:56 <KageSenshi> ok
14:27:09 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, anymore questions for the bus stuff?
14:27:30 <rebelk0de> hang on
14:27:32 <rebelk0de> checking
14:28:06 <rebelk0de> for Hotel SP - number of ppl requiring transport
14:28:14 <rebelk0de> lrt - number of ppl requiring transport
14:28:19 <rebelk0de> a rough estimate will do
14:28:48 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, for hotel, roughly 14 maybe , depending on how many we can approve
14:29:03 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, for lrt, i want a feeder mode for 2 hours
14:29:23 <rebelk0de> start time? 7.30 am or 8 am?
14:29:32 <KageSenshi> in the morning, and feeder mode for afternoon
14:29:43 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, lets take it 8am-10am
14:29:55 <rebelk0de> ok noted, KageSenshi
14:30:05 <rebelk0de> Will get back with data by latest Friday
14:30:09 <KageSenshi> for afternoon, should be shorter time needed i think
14:30:20 <KageSenshi> as we just pick whoever in apiit who need to be dropped in lrt
14:31:23 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, anymore questions?
14:31:44 <rebelk0de> no, KageSenshi thanks
14:31:48 <KageSenshi> ok
14:32:02 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, talking about bus and transport, theres another information i need
14:32:21 <KageSenshi> #action rebelk0de to get back on bus cost information by friday
14:32:28 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, parking information
14:32:32 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, where to park ?
14:33:03 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, i remembered theres a parking a bit behind of apiit, are there conditions for that place?
14:33:07 <rebelk0de> Good point, KageSenshi
14:33:28 <rebelk0de> Will have to check - pls ad to #action
14:33:32 <MavJS> !
14:33:52 <KageSenshi> #action rebelk0de to check on parking information
14:33:55 <KageSenshi> MavJS, yep ?
14:33:56 <rebelk0de> Saturday and Sundays aren't a problem, i need to make arrangements for Friday
14:34:17 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, just a quick email to me should be enough,
14:34:33 <MavJS> KageSenshi: the parking behind apiit, after the road is around RM5 a day, iirc.
14:34:57 <KageSenshi> MavJS, which is fine for me .. i just need its operating hours/availability
14:35:16 <TYSSeries> !
14:35:17 <KageSenshi> MavJS, they coming to a free event, rm5 is a small tradeoff imo :P
14:35:20 <KageSenshi> TYSSeries, yep ?
14:35:26 <MavJS> KageSenshi: right. eof :)
14:35:43 <rebelk0de> noted, KageSenshi
14:35:57 <TYSSeries> There is a new parking lot that also costs RM5 and the time availability is from 7am till 10pm, that's I experienced
14:36:15 <TYSSeries> So parking lot slots are sufficient and time availability is okay
14:36:16 <KageSenshi> TYSSeries, cool
14:36:32 <KageSenshi> hurm .. maybe we'll need a ground plan for tpm to point ppl to parking areas
14:36:33 <rebelk0de> MavJS, will ask management if we can use our parking near astro + request van from that parking to the main building
14:36:33 <KageSenshi> :P
14:37:00 <MavJS> rebelk0de: ok. that's cool as well. :)
14:37:29 <KageSenshi> we'll just list out all options i guess, and let the attendees decide where to park
14:37:35 <MavJS> +1
14:37:44 <KageSenshi> i myself prefer to pay rm5 than to park all the way at astro
14:37:46 <KageSenshi> XD
14:37:53 <MavJS> +1 to that as well :p
14:37:58 <rebelk0de> KageSenshi, haha ok
14:38:21 <KageSenshi> though parking at astro theres an advantage
14:38:26 <KageSenshi> your attendees cant run away :P
14:38:31 <MavJS> lol!
14:38:37 <TYSSeries> Sweat @@
14:38:45 <kulll> >.<
14:38:53 <KageSenshi> :P
14:38:57 <KageSenshi> ok
14:39:02 <KageSenshi> next item
14:39:20 <KageSenshi> #info Where the heck are the fliers??!!
14:39:27 <MavJS> :S
14:40:02 <KageSenshi> #info we need the fliers for WebcampKL TOMORROW, and HackWeekend this weekend
14:40:07 <KageSenshi> ok
14:40:12 <sweemeng> yeah
14:40:24 <sweemeng> they even plan to setup a board to post this already :-(
14:40:26 <KageSenshi> and jipang is still missing :(
14:40:34 <kulll> :(
14:40:42 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, in webcampkl ?
14:41:20 <sweemeng> yeah
14:41:22 <KageSenshi> #info WebcampKL even plans to setup a board to post up the FUDCon Fliers ..
14:41:28 <KageSenshi> ok
14:41:53 <KageSenshi> can someone here that attend this meeting take up the work to figure out the content for the fliers?
14:41:58 <KageSenshi> we need to get it done by tonight
14:42:09 <KageSenshi> i can do some remixing of the design
14:42:24 <KageSenshi> but i need some ideas for content .. my brain getting slow d
14:42:25 <KageSenshi> XD
14:42:26 <sweemeng> man...
14:42:31 <sweemeng> suck at design
14:42:39 <kulll> me too
14:42:46 <KageSenshi> kulll, sweemeng , contents
14:42:48 * kulll sucks at everything >.<
14:43:16 <KageSenshi> kulll, sweemeng , i need help with the contents.. i can come up with a simple flier design quickly i think with my existing design element svgs
14:43:21 <meng> what is Fedora Project, FUDCON
14:43:38 <meng> event day and time, a brief overview of the events
14:43:43 <KageSenshi> meng, thats the part, help me with writing the pitch under the paragraph
14:43:44 <KageSenshi> :)
14:43:52 <KageSenshi> need a pitch, not cold , raw data
14:44:13 <sweemeng> as mel gibson once said
14:44:17 <sweemeng> "FREEEEEDOM!!"
14:44:20 <KageSenshi> haha
14:44:20 <meng> Come to FUDCON where we share "knowledge"
14:44:24 <sweemeng> oh wait, not for fedora
14:44:32 <KageSenshi> meng, after this meeting we'll start the work
14:44:37 <KageSenshi> meng, you want to take on the work ?
14:44:48 <KageSenshi> if yes i'll add and action item
14:44:52 <KageSenshi> *an
14:44:53 <sweemeng> if can be in SVG, i can attempt to fill in the wording
14:45:00 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, it is svg
14:45:02 <kulll> +1 meng
14:45:04 <KageSenshi> XD
14:45:05 <meng> i can't design the thing, could try hacking the writing
14:45:09 <KageSenshi> ok
14:45:19 <KageSenshi> who else are going to help in this meeting?
14:45:23 <MavJS> o/
14:45:32 <KageSenshi> me, sweemeng , mavjs, meng
14:45:33 <KageSenshi> ok
14:45:36 * MavJS pulls Alvisyu & TYSSeries as well :D
14:45:38 <KageSenshi> anyone else?
14:46:10 * KageSenshi pokes Alvisyu TYSSeries
14:46:31 <KageSenshi> (silent
14:46:33 <TYSSeries> @@
14:46:34 <MavJS> :|
14:46:38 <kulll> >.<
14:46:41 <TYSSeries> I am watching you, lol
14:46:49 <MavJS> TYSSeries: dude, respond.
14:46:52 <TYSSeries> No problem
14:46:56 <Alvisyu> i'm ok
14:46:59 <KageSenshi> #action meng , sweemeng , KageSenshi and MavJS will be getting a quick flier done by tonight
14:47:02 <vinz007> Ok, for me, i in too
14:47:03 <MavJS> we aren't doing video chat ;)
14:47:12 <sweemeng> aye
14:47:16 <KageSenshi> ok cool
14:47:19 <KageSenshi> next item
14:47:31 <KageSenshi> #info Where is T-Shirt design??
14:47:38 <MavJS> <.< >.>
14:47:53 <sweemeng> slap the logo on tshirt and use that as the ultimate fallback
14:48:17 <kulll> grab other fudcon design
14:48:35 <KageSenshi> #info jipang_menjerit is holding on the rear design .. need him to send svg over for mixing into the t-shirt and submitting to printer for proper quote ... KageSenshi  been asking him for the file since last week
14:48:39 <kulll> +1 sweemeng
14:49:04 <KageSenshi> #action KageSenshi to keep nagging jipang_menjerit for the svg files
14:49:21 <KageSenshi> #info similarly, the lanyard design is also being held by him, not uploaded anywhere
14:49:53 <MavJS> KageSenshi: how much longer do we want to wait for those designs? :S
14:50:11 <sweemeng> anyone willing to kidnap him in cyberjaya?
14:50:34 <KageSenshi> #info if theres no news on the svgs by thursday, KageSenshi will come up with a quick fallback design, as we really are chasing datelines ..
14:50:50 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok.
14:51:03 <KageSenshi> #info make that friday night
14:51:04 * sweemeng wonder if i can request for t-shirt sponsor tomorrow hmmm
14:51:19 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, first we need the design, and a proper quote from the printer
14:51:24 <sweemeng> right
14:51:41 <sweemeng> because one of the person is doing t-shirt for webcamp, is there tomorrow i think
14:52:00 * MavJS pokes TYSSeries - got any vendor for printing?
14:52:03 <KageSenshi> #info this is urgent as until we have the price and design for the t-shirt, we couldnt find sponsors for t-shirt
14:52:14 <TYSSeries> MavJS, banner or T-shirt?
14:52:35 <KageSenshi> MavJS, TYSSeries , the vendor i found is a printer himself, he have a production line of ppl who print t-shirt
14:52:47 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok.
14:52:48 <KageSenshi> TYSSeries, MavJS , dpeending on design, we might even able to get rm15
14:53:04 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. cool. but yes, need design. :|
14:53:16 <TYSSeries> KageSenshi, I also try to ask the vendors here to see the price @@
14:53:21 <KageSenshi> TYSSeries, ok
14:53:28 <KageSenshi> TYSSeries, take note, request for rubber dye
14:53:44 <TYSSeries> KageSenshi, okay
14:53:50 <KageSenshi> ok
14:54:07 <KageSenshi> next item ..
14:54:13 <KageSenshi> #topic new action items
14:54:14 <KageSenshi> erm ..
14:54:17 <KageSenshi> lets see
14:54:38 <KageSenshi> i need someone to take over baton from jipang menjerit
14:55:31 <KageSenshi> i can understand he's busy, but his action hogging the tasks and not passing it around is very dangerous
14:55:45 <MavJS> KageSenshi: since we're going to wait for reply from jipang till friday night. we could ask some other vlnt on tuesday for this?
14:56:03 <KageSenshi> at least he need to delegate so that i know theres someone else i can ask when i need somehting
14:56:26 <KageSenshi> but while i have been reminding him several times about it, he still hogging the tasks ..
14:56:49 <KageSenshi> promo team is idle, and as we are already less than 2 months before the event, this is getting dangerous
14:57:14 <KageSenshi> MavJS, can you find someone who can coordinate?
14:57:37 <MavJS> KageSenshi: i'd have take it myself, if i didn't have assignment submission on 9th april :|
14:57:44 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. i'll find.
14:58:02 <KageSenshi> MavJS, you can take it, but do not hog tasks
14:58:23 <KageSenshi> MavJS, having the core team burnt down due to tasks not delegated is quite dangerous
14:58:58 <MavJS> KageSenshi: btw, i think we may need to delegate some more people in promo as some are "dead"?
14:59:13 <KageSenshi> MavJS, get someone to ping whether they are still alive first
14:59:24 <sweemeng> they might just in "coma"
14:59:37 <KageSenshi> #action MavJS to find someone who can take over coordinator role for promo team
14:59:37 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. cool. I'll ping every promo member after the meeting.
14:59:50 <KageSenshi> MavJS, i think they simply idle because their coordinator doesnt move them
14:59:56 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. noted.
15:00:06 <KageSenshi> MavJS, malaysia is not really a culture where ppl step forward to do stuff
15:00:14 <MavJS> KageSenshi: so is Burma ;)
15:00:17 <KageSenshi> they volunteer, but they wait for tasks
15:00:34 <KageSenshi> if no tasks, instead of finding/suggesting something to do .. they idle
15:00:42 * MavJS agrees...
15:01:20 <rebelk0de> Sorry chaps, wish i could help, but am packed with tasks already
15:01:36 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, no prob, i dont want you hogging tasks too
15:01:37 <KageSenshi> :P
15:01:43 <MavJS> lol! :D
15:02:02 <KageSenshi> rebelk0de, and i know you will if i do pass you the promo team stuff :P
15:02:08 <rebelk0de> haha, thanks KageSenshi
15:02:28 <rebelk0de> i'll just kung-fu it to others, KageSenshi
15:02:28 <KageSenshi> ok
15:02:42 <MavJS> ok. perhaps next item? :D
15:03:03 <KageSenshi> #action MavJS (or someone who can help coordinating the promo team) , will poke all promo team members and assign tasks
15:03:31 <MavJS> \o/ more action items! :p
15:03:55 <KageSenshi> #info whoever taking the new coordinator role for promo team, will have to be able to take own initiatives
15:04:39 <KageSenshi> #info KageSenshi will only notify rough idea of  things that might need to be done, but the coordinator will need to break it apart and get volunteers to do it
15:04:57 <KageSenshi> #info or file tickets to design team to do it
15:05:00 <KageSenshi> ok
15:05:02 <KageSenshi> next item
15:05:08 <KageSenshi> #topic open floor
15:05:27 <KageSenshi> #info Chief minister coming in FUDCon
15:05:31 <KageSenshi> #undo
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15:05:43 <KageSenshi> #info Chief Minister of Melaka might be coming to FUDCon
15:05:51 <KageSenshi> anybody strongly disagree with that?
15:05:53 <KageSenshi> i hope not
15:05:57 <MavJS> nope.
15:06:01 <kulll> +1
15:06:03 * MavJS welcomes that..
15:06:05 <sweemeng> high level support is a good thing
15:06:10 <vinz007> yup
15:06:18 <KageSenshi> ok cool
15:06:20 <kulll> ?
15:06:23 <KageSenshi> kulll, ?
15:06:31 <kulll> what about protocol?
15:06:31 <sweemeng> protocol by red hat, confirm?
15:06:47 <sweemeng> the CM one
15:06:58 <KageSenshi> #info RH will be dealing with the official stuff, formal invitation, and protocol if needed
15:07:23 <KageSenshi> i'm thinking of giving day2 keynote to the CM
15:07:41 <KageSenshi> ok with that?
15:07:58 <kulll> +1
15:08:08 <MavJS> +1 ok
15:08:12 <TYSSeries> +1
15:08:42 <sweemeng> ok
15:08:47 <Alvisyu> +1
15:08:52 <vinz007> +1
15:09:17 <KageSenshi> ok
15:09:33 <KageSenshi> #info Melaka CM will be having his keynote on day2 - conference day
15:09:47 <KageSenshi> ok
15:10:08 <KageSenshi> anymore stuff to add into open floor before we end this meeting and start doing fliers?
15:10:10 <KageSenshi> ok wait
15:10:45 <KageSenshi> #info Dinesh nair from MDEC want us to submit a writeup on FUDCon to them, so that he can find something for MDEC to help out
15:10:58 <sweemeng> define writeup?
15:11:11 <sweemeng> i wonder whether he is there in webcamp too.. hmmm
15:11:38 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, he wants 1 - information about the event .. 2 - information of activities in the event , what will be happening, etc
15:11:45 <sweemeng> arr
15:11:46 <sweemeng> ok
15:12:12 <KageSenshi> i want to send this to him by tomorrow night hopefully
15:12:22 <KageSenshi> due to he need it a.s.a.p
15:12:39 <KageSenshi> supposedly this is a task for promo team. but they are missing
15:12:44 <MavJS> shall we "mopad" that?
15:12:48 <KageSenshi> MavJS, yes
15:12:55 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok.
15:13:09 <sweemeng> while we are on mopad
15:13:12 <KageSenshi> also another thing we should get done before next tuesday meeting
15:13:18 <sweemeng> how we going to share screen on design?
15:13:45 <KageSenshi> #info we also need generic email to start sending to universities etc
15:14:02 <KageSenshi> #info we have a basic one on mopad, but we should be updating it
15:14:07 <KageSenshi> as its updated
15:14:18 <KageSenshi> #info we also need a template for invitation letter
15:14:41 <KageSenshi> #info the tasks above, should be done by the promo team, but they are missing, guess it goes back to KageSenshi and MavJS to do it :(
15:14:52 <MavJS> :|
15:15:17 <MavJS> i think we ain't sleeping tonight! lol! XD
15:15:43 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, dont bother i guess, just collaborate on the emails / informations
15:16:00 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, i can pick the information and come up with a design
15:16:06 <sweemeng> ok
15:16:13 <sweemeng> +1
15:16:22 * sweemeng go grab more coffee
15:16:23 <KageSenshi> sweemeng, i have bunch of svgs from my older designs which i can remix
15:16:49 <sweemeng> i try help in design
15:16:53 * KageSenshi is bad in deisgn, but at least i'm quite ok in remixing designs
15:17:00 <sweemeng> though for now, i am best as the delivery guy
15:17:11 <KageSenshi> hehe
15:17:12 <KageSenshi> ok
15:17:17 <KageSenshi> anymore for open floor?
15:17:17 * MavJS walks the plank of shame regarding design.....
15:17:46 * MavJS has none.
15:17:53 * sweemeng nay
15:17:57 <sweemeng> nothing to say
15:18:04 <KageSenshi> ok
15:18:07 <KageSenshi> cool
15:18:14 <KageSenshi> thanks all for attending the meeting
15:18:36 <KageSenshi> #info next vlnt meeting is on tuesday, 3rd april 2012
15:18:52 <KageSenshi> #info next fudcon-planning meeting is on thursday, 29th april 2012
15:19:08 <KageSenshi> ending meeting now
15:19:10 <KageSenshi> 5
15:19:11 <KageSenshi> 4
15:19:12 <KageSenshi> 3
15:19:13 <KageSenshi> 2
15:19:14 <KageSenshi> 1
15:19:16 <KageSenshi> #endmeeting