12:00:12 <riecatnor[m]1> #startmeeting Mindshare
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12:00:23 <riecatnor[m]1> #meetingname Mindshare
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12:00:25 <VipulSiddharth[m> \o
12:00:38 <VipulSiddharth[m> .hello siddharthvipul1
12:00:39 <zodbot> VipulSiddharth[m: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
12:01:08 <riecatnor[m]1> #chair Vipul Siddharth pbokoc Máirín Duffy Onuralp Sezer Madeline Peck davdunc bt0 nb
12:01:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: Duffy Madeline Máirín Onuralp Peck Sezer Siddharth Vipul bt0 davdunc nb pbokoc riecatnor[m]1
12:01:17 <riecatnor[m]1> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
12:01:18 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic Hello
12:01:26 <pbokoc> Hi there
12:01:53 <riecatnor[m]1> hi peeps :)
12:01:59 <riecatnor[m]1> how's everyone doin today?
12:01:59 <VipulSiddharth[m> Good morning Marie
12:02:03 <riecatnor[m]1> .hello riecatnor
12:02:04 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]1: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
12:02:12 <davdunc[m> .hello2
12:02:12 <zodbot> davdunc[m: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
12:02:39 <riecatnor[m]1> never seen that error before 😅
12:03:41 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja
12:03:42 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
12:03:47 <bt0> hi o/
12:04:46 <davdunc> .hello2
12:04:47 <zodbot> davdunc: davdunc 'David Duncan' <davdunc@amazon.com>
12:05:09 <riecatnor[m]1> there it is :)
12:05:30 * davdunc :D winning!
12:05:51 <riecatnor[m]1> before we start-
12:06:04 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic welcome new members & thanks to retirees
12:06:37 <riecatnor[m]1> A big thank you to tyll for his time on the Mindshare committee!!
12:06:38 * davdunc wonderful to be here!
12:06:59 <riecatnor[m]1> relrod recently stepped down as well, thank you Rick for your time on Mindshare
12:07:15 <riecatnor[m]1> andddd a huge welcome to davdunc & Madeline Peck !!!
12:07:28 <riecatnor[m]1> so happy to have you, and its exciting to see new faces on the committee
12:07:47 * davdunc is grateful for the opportunity!
12:08:27 <bt0> welcome :)
12:09:03 <riecatnor[m]1> sending virtual balloons & cake 🎈🎈🧁🧁
12:09:15 <riecatnor[m]1> alright lets do this :)
12:09:16 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic announcements and information
12:09:48 <riecatnor[m]1> #info Nest with Fedora CfP open, spread the word & share in your channels - and submit your session asap :D
12:09:53 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-2022-cfp/
12:09:57 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/flock/issues
12:10:04 <riecatnor[m]1> #info the Annual Contributor Survey is open for the month of June, make sure to submit your feedback! Make sure to share in your channels too!
12:10:10 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/we-want-to-hear-from-you-take-the-fedora-annual-contributor-survey-for-2022/
12:10:15 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/2022
12:10:18 <t0xic0der[m]> .hello t0xic0der
12:10:19 <zodbot> t0xic0der[m]: t0xic0der 'Akashdeep Dhar' <akashdeep.dhar@gmail.com>
12:10:45 <riecatnor[m]1> side question for Vipul Siddharth ;) - how many complete survey responses do we have?
12:10:48 <t0xic0der[m]> Congratulations davdunc @davdunc:fedora.im and Madeline Peck!
12:10:52 <riecatnor[m]1> #info Fedora Linux 36 Election results are out! Congrats to the winning candidates and thanks to all who ran
12:10:53 <VipulSiddharth[m> checking :)
12:10:57 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linux-36-election-results/
12:11:18 <VipulSiddharth[m> congratulations Madeline Peck and davdunc 🥳
12:11:38 <riecatnor[m]1> #info Fedora Hatches are happening all over the world! Make sure to check out if there is one near you :)
12:11:40 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/hatch-with-fedora-is-happening-all-over-the-world/39899
12:12:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]1: 1623 full responses
12:12:24 <riecatnor[m]1> woowwwww
12:12:27 <t0xic0der[m]> Vipul Siddharth: that's a great number! :D
12:12:30 <riecatnor[m]1> that is already double last year!!
12:12:37 <t0xic0der[m]> Nice!
12:12:43 <VipulSiddharth[m> 🎊
12:13:15 <riecatnor[m]1> 🥲 so proud of the community for the growth (or growth in reach, which is also great)
12:13:43 <bt0> awesome
12:13:47 <riecatnor[m]1> thank you Vipul Siddharth for being our limesurvey wrangler, much appreciation and thanks for all you do
12:14:00 <t0xic0der[m]> Vipul Siddharth++
12:14:16 <riecatnor[m]1> siddharthvipul1++
12:14:28 <riecatnor[m]1> hmmm, did i get that wrong
12:14:41 <VipulSiddharth[m> thank you all
12:14:41 <t0xic0der[m]> Does Zodbot work here?
12:14:51 <riecatnor[m]1> any other announcements or info to share before we move forward?
12:15:07 <riecatnor[m]1> t0xic0der: i think so? we are running a meeting here rn
12:15:39 * t0xic0der[m] should get himself some coffee
12:15:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> #info Call for volunteers for Fedora week of Diversity planning. We will have a discussion thread opening soon, until then, reach out to siddharthvipul1 or mnordin
12:16:03 <riecatnor[m]1> VipulSiddharth[m: yes that! the more folks we have the more we can do :)
12:16:40 <riecatnor[m]1> Vipul Siddharth: we should get a ticket open as well? to track decisions and that sort of thing
12:16:40 <t0xic0der[m]> riecatnor @riecatnor:fedora.im: ah, my bad. I suppose that the Fedora Chat username might append something to Vipul's username, rendering it unrecognizable by the awarding system.
12:16:40 <t0xic0der[m]> Or something like that.
12:16:56 <riecatnor[m]1> t0xic0der++
12:17:02 <riecatnor[m]1> weird!
12:17:06 <riecatnor[m]1> davdunc++
12:17:20 <riecatnor[m]1> 🤷‍♀️
12:17:34 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic todays agenda
12:17:44 <riecatnor[m]1> I have a handful of tickets for us to review
12:17:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> 🤷
12:17:48 <VipulSiddharth[m> let's do it
12:17:48 <riecatnor[m]1> any other topics that folks want to discuss today?
12:18:27 <VipulSiddharth[m> Reminder for new mindshare folks to read mindshare policy docs :D
12:18:43 <VipulSiddharth[m> and mindshare docs in general
12:18:46 <riecatnor[m]1> good call
12:18:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> (open PR if notice anything wrong ;))
12:18:56 <riecatnor[m]1> also feel free to ask any questions
12:19:23 <t0xic0der[m]> That goes for our W&A representative too!
12:19:23 <t0xic0der[m]> (Looks at Onuralp Sezer)
12:19:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> VipulSiddharth[m: davdunc: Madeline Peck
12:19:36 <VipulSiddharth[m> > <@t0xic0der:matrix.org> That goes for our W&A representative too!
12:19:36 <VipulSiddharth[m> > (Looks at Onuralp Sezer)
12:19:36 <VipulSiddharth[m> ah yes, of course!
12:19:44 <riecatnor[m]1> is Onuralp Sezer the official new w&a rep?
12:19:48 <davdunc> :) thanks riecatnor[m]1
12:19:50 <riecatnor[m]1> we should update the docs for that :)
12:20:31 <t0xic0der[m]> riecatnor[m]1: riecatnor @riecatnor:matrix.org: yes he is and yep, we should update the docs to reflect that.
12:20:34 <riecatnor[m]1> this page needs a small change: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/ if anyone wants to take that
12:20:42 <riecatnor[m]1> awesome :D
12:20:47 <t0xic0der[m]> I should have an outstanding PR for the websites docs but welp, I could use some help for the mindshare one. ,P
12:20:57 <riecatnor[m]1> for sure, we got it t0xic0der :)
12:21:00 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic tickets
12:21:16 <t0xic0der[m]> riecatnor @riecatnor:fedora.im: Many thanks!
12:21:20 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/340
12:21:56 <riecatnor[m]1> looks like we are ready to move forward with this sponsorship
12:21:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> this seems approved
12:21:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor anything we can do to push this?
12:22:00 <riecatnor[m]1> any last comments?
12:22:00 <VipulSiddharth[m> ah yes
12:22:08 <VipulSiddharth[m> no comments :)
12:22:08 <VipulSiddharth[m> thank yo
12:22:11 <VipulSiddharth[m> s/yo/you/
12:22:54 <bt0> not from me
12:23:01 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, next action is on me to send a message to the sponsor address
12:23:19 <riecatnor[m]1> once we get assigned a spot in the schedule, lets work on getting a handful of folks to staff the office hours
12:23:20 * VipulSiddharth[m will be back in 2 minutes
12:23:32 <riecatnor[m]1> i will comment on the ticket as well
12:23:43 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/343
12:24:22 <riecatnor[m]1> do we know if elementor gathers information about visitors to the page?
12:24:39 <riecatnor[m]1> for example, does it provide analytics?
12:24:46 <riecatnor[m]1> or is just a theme?
12:25:55 <riecatnor[m]1> browsing the site, it looks like additional plug-ins are necessary to do that sort of thing
12:26:42 <VipulSiddharth[m> seems alright to me
12:27:09 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, please vote and then I will work with x3mboy to get it paid
12:27:33 <VipulSiddharth[m> voted
12:27:58 <bt04> me too
12:28:12 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/344
12:28:43 * davdunc have to drop out a bit early today or an ops review.
12:29:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> I need to know the same set of answers... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c6b92507a261f265743e8879255f374c2b191f5b)
12:30:13 <bt04> Yes, I'm +1 to sponsor, I'm not sure if gold
12:30:54 <VipulSiddharth[m> these being said.. if Neal says it's good to invest, I do trust him plenty
12:30:54 <VipulSiddharth[m> but we need to think about metrics a little I would say
12:30:54 <VipulSiddharth[m> if we start now, it will help us plenty in future with spending strategies
12:30:55 <bt04> (my firefox chashed and libera don't let me be bt0 again)
12:31:08 <riecatnor[m]1> last year we did: "Platinum" (5000 Euro) level
12:31:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> bt04: 4*bt0 > bt0
12:31:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> we will take it :P
12:31:20 <riecatnor[m]1> bt04: weird
12:32:41 <riecatnor[m]1> I hear you Vipul Siddharth - this is an age old question
12:33:39 <riecatnor[m]1> btw, I am working on a budget report so we can make more informed decisions!
12:33:48 <riecatnor[m]1> I will say we have the room for this based on last years spend
12:34:27 <bt04> well the last time we voted platinum beacuse  guadec and akademy need ti  have more or less the same level
12:34:38 <riecatnor[m]1> gotcha
12:36:05 <riecatnor[m]1> do other people have thoughts on gold versus silver sponsorship?
12:37:00 <VipulSiddharth[m> since we did €5000 last year, I would be +1 to silver right away
12:37:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> +0 on 10,000
12:37:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> makes sense if we feel it's beneficial but I don't have enough insight
12:37:10 <VipulSiddharth[m> (I am definitely not -1)
12:37:40 <riecatnor[m]1> a side note- I have been emailing with KDE folks about being a part of Nest this year
12:37:50 <riecatnor[m]1> they agreed to be a media partner and help us promote the event
12:38:04 <bt04> nice
12:38:07 <riecatnor[m]1> I am just working on what that means for this year
12:39:22 <bt04> also, the kde sig is doing a great job making the kde spin an awesome experience
12:39:38 <riecatnor[m]1> we should ask them to update this: https://fedoraloveskde.org/
12:39:53 <riecatnor[m]1> this is looking pretty nice: https://spins.fedoraproject.org/kde/
12:40:50 <riecatnor[m]1> so, I am also +1 to silver, 0 to gold
12:41:18 <bt04> ok, +1 for silver, +0 gold
12:41:24 <riecatnor[m]1> i guess for 5000 more we are getting our logo on conference talks, on badge/lanyard, and a banner in the hacking area
12:41:35 <riecatnor[m]1> do we feel that is worth it?
12:42:02 <VipulSiddharth[m> It feels worth it when we add the support for KDE in general
12:42:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> but it's all just a feeling 😄
12:43:17 <riecatnor[m]1> I can agree with that, KDE isn't backed officially by a commercial entity afaik
12:43:47 <riecatnor[m]1> "The financial and legal matters of KDE are handled by KDE e.V., a German non-profit organization."
12:43:47 <bt04> maybe if some fedorians will be a speakers at the akademy make sense the logo on the conference talk :P (just a feeling)
12:44:15 <riecatnor[m]1> thye have some very cute mascots I was unaware of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE
12:45:23 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, so lets add some votes to the ticket- I will follow up with some questions about who will be presenting there/who will head up the various engagements related to the sponsorship/updating the kdelovesfedora page
12:45:56 <riecatnor[m]1> sound good?
12:46:02 <VipulSiddharth[m> yess
12:46:18 <bt04> yeah
12:46:32 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/347
12:47:04 <riecatnor[m]1> I commented yesterday- please take a look
12:47:43 <VipulSiddharth[m> right right,
12:47:43 <VipulSiddharth[m> how do I get one :")
12:47:45 <VipulSiddharth[m> lol, jk!
12:47:49 <VipulSiddharth[m> it's a great idea
12:47:54 <riecatnor[m]1> we can do this- we just need to gather info to print what we need only and ship them out right away
12:48:04 <riecatnor[m]1> please add your votes if you are on board :)
12:49:02 <VipulSiddharth[m> added
12:49:11 <bt04> me too :P
12:49:52 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, lets see how the requester responds to my comment but I think this one will be good to go
12:51:00 <riecatnor[m]1> for ticket 348 we are waiting for more info
12:51:00 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/341
12:53:20 <bt04> ohh, I need meditate about this text, sometimes the community activities are more complex than package gcc for the people factor :P
12:53:27 <riecatnor[m]1> looking at what is there now: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/docs/
12:53:57 <riecatnor[m]1> somehow I feel like "documentation for..." is redundant as you are on a page that is "docs" already?
12:55:14 <riecatnor[m]1> side note: DEI team needs to update their title
12:56:07 <riecatnor[m]1> "Activities beyond engineering: Learn about the groups focused on Fedora's outreach, brand, & more"
12:56:39 <riecatnor[m]1> groups could also be teams
12:57:02 <bt04> teams sounds better
12:57:23 <riecatnor[m]1> s/groups/teams/
12:58:37 <riecatnor[m]1> any other thoughts?
12:58:42 <riecatnor[m]1> I can propose the new idea on the ticket
12:59:23 <bt04> thx
13:00:11 <riecatnor[m]1> alright peeps- thats it for today
13:00:16 <riecatnor[m]1> thank you for the discussion!
13:00:28 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am done for the day too :)
13:00:29 <VipulSiddharth[m> have something IRL
13:00:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> thank you all
13:01:14 <riecatnor[m]1> #endmeeting