12:01:21 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare
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12:01:29 <riecatnor[m]> #meetingname Mindshare
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12:01:42 <ffmancera> Hello! o/
12:01:48 <VipulSiddharth[m> \o
12:01:58 <VipulSiddharth[m> .hello siddharthvipul1
12:01:59 <zodbot> VipulSiddharth[m: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
12:02:11 <riecatnor[m]> #chair Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez Máirín Duffy Vipul Siddharth pbokoc nb TillMaas relrod_ Onuralp Sezer
12:02:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: Alberto Duffy Máirín Onuralp Rodríguez Sezer Siddharth Sánchez TillMaas Vipul nb pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m]
12:02:19 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
12:02:23 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Hello
12:02:42 <riecatnor[m]> hullo ffmancera & Vipul Siddharth :)
12:02:56 <riecatnor[m]> how's it going today?
12:03:10 <riecatnor[m]> I realized we didn't talk about the time of this meeting changing, I wonder if its ok for people?
12:03:34 <VipulSiddharth[m> It's going well
12:03:34 <VipulSiddharth[m> This meeting is right at my beach time .. so I went there earlier today and just came back .. made it in time! yayy
12:03:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> still waiting to dry hair after a quick shower though :P
12:04:22 <ffmancera> Good! I have been busy writing the Fedora Outreachy project proposal, will submit it today (sorry for the delay)
12:04:25 <riecatnor[m]> ok, let me know if its an issue, we can revisit again lol
12:04:32 <riecatnor[m]> ffmancera: thats great!
12:04:35 <VipulSiddharth[m> haha naah
12:04:48 <riecatnor[m]> can we help out?
12:05:10 <VipulSiddharth[m> ffmancera: that's great!
12:05:10 <VipulSiddharth[m> do give me a shout if I can help too
12:05:35 <ffmancera> I think it is fine, I will appreciate the feedback once it will be published on pagure :-)
12:05:36 <riecatnor[m]> #topic announcements and information
12:05:46 <riecatnor[m]> #info join and invite others to the Ambassador Kick-Off Call, March 31st at 3PM UTC
12:05:51 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ambassador-call-kick-off/
12:05:56 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/10212/
12:06:06 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora is participating in the upcoming round of Outreachy and we are looking for projects and mentors! Please submit to the mentored projects repo by March 16th
12:06:06 * ffmancera is eating something but around!
12:06:13 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-projects-mentors-outreachy-may-2022/
12:06:18 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mentored-projects/issues
12:06:26 <riecatnor[m]> #info there are a whole bunch of CfPs open for some of your fav FOSS conferences, check out a list in last weeks Friday's Fedora Facts
12:06:42 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-10/
12:06:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> #info Registration for the first edition of the Fedora Mentor Summit it out! We will be announcing it tomorrow morning. You can register now at https://hopin.com/events/fedora-mentor-summit-2022
12:06:57 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-mentor-summit-2022
12:06:58 <VipulSiddharth[m> more info to follow
12:07:22 <riecatnor[m]> riecatnor[m]: I am very excited for this!
12:07:51 <riecatnor[m]> @marianab @sumantrom and I have been working for almost two years on this!
12:08:18 <riecatnor[m]> I see the light at the end of the tunnel ;)
12:09:14 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am excited for this too :D
12:09:19 <VipulSiddharth[m> looking forward to the call
12:09:29 <riecatnor[m]> a personal announcement- I am doing the RISE presentation at FOSSBackstage this week!
12:09:31 <riecatnor[m]> https://pretalx.com/foss-backstage-2022/talk/CQ9UQF/
12:10:28 <riecatnor[m]> any other announcements or info?
12:11:58 <VipulSiddharth[m> #info Beta Go/No-Go this thursday. We are still in Beta Freeze
12:12:05 <VipulSiddharth[m> wait, let me confirm the freeze part
12:12:10 <VipulSiddharth[m> sigh
12:12:14 <riecatnor[m]> i added that above :)
12:12:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> #undo
12:12:27 <riecatnor[m]> wait did i??
12:12:45 <VipulSiddharth[m> I don't see it
12:12:48 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh wait, I have one
12:12:48 <riecatnor[m]> i gathered the info but didnt sent lol
12:12:58 <riecatnor[m]> #info the F36 beta freeze is under way, the Go/No Go meeting is this Thursday
12:13:03 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/10209/
12:13:35 <VipulSiddharth[m> #info Fedora Project was not selected in GSoC 2022 round as we lacked minimum projects number requirement
12:14:00 <riecatnor[m]> we can try again next year
12:14:18 <riecatnor[m]> how many projects should we have and when do we need them by>
12:14:42 <VipulSiddharth[m> yess, I didn't know of their minimum project requirement
12:14:42 <VipulSiddharth[m> which just means, we need to open call for participation earlier and keep an eye throughout the year
12:14:48 <VipulSiddharth[m> learning moment
12:15:53 <riecatnor[m]> when should the projects be in by?
12:16:07 <riecatnor[m]> I guess that question is when is the gsoc application due
12:16:14 <VipulSiddharth[m> turns out, before we apply as a project
12:16:28 <riecatnor[m]> do you have a date?
12:16:41 <VipulSiddharth[m> for next year?
12:16:41 <VipulSiddharth[m> not yet
12:17:04 <riecatnor[m]> well, I expect it to be similar to this year
12:17:05 <riecatnor[m]> we can base it off of that
12:17:05 <riecatnor[m]> when was this years deadline
12:17:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> Feb 21st iirc
12:17:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> but yes, we can target mid Feb
12:17:46 <riecatnor[m]> ok, so I think we should make an effort in October to get projects
12:17:49 <riecatnor[m]> right around the release party
12:17:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> makes sense
12:17:58 <riecatnor[m]> then do another round in january
12:18:14 <riecatnor[m]> that should help
12:18:18 <VipulSiddharth[m> we discussion with FPgM that we can add this in Fedora's schedule
12:18:18 <VipulSiddharth[m> that will keep things on track
12:18:37 <VipulSiddharth[m> Sumantro and I had a call about this last month
12:19:16 <riecatnor[m]> would it make sense to add outreachy as well?
12:19:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> since this is done, we can get back to it some other time
12:19:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> I wanted to ask if anyone has any question about Fedora Mentor Summit?
12:19:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> We are running late and commblog would be out tomorrow
12:19:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> but this being our first edition, I am still very excited about it
12:19:26 <riecatnor[m]> maybe it would be better to keep a mentored projects calendar?
12:19:50 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor: yess, we should absolutely look into it!
12:19:53 <VipulSiddharth[m> that's a good idea
12:20:27 <riecatnor[m]> or.. a Mindshare calendar?
12:20:44 <riecatnor[m]> we could add stuff like updates for docs and the wallpaper design process? just an idea!
12:21:02 <riecatnor[m]> I don't have time to take on a new project rn 😅
12:21:06 <riecatnor[m]> but I like it!
12:21:14 <VipulSiddharth[m> overall all of mindshare calendar
12:21:14 <VipulSiddharth[m> sounds like a good thing to brainstorm on
12:21:36 <riecatnor[m]> it would be up to the reps to keep things updated, and other teams could probably add to it as well
12:21:49 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Mentor Summit
12:22:25 <riecatnor[m]> go ahead Vipul :)
12:23:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh, I don't have anything in specific other than "If anyone has any doubts"
12:23:41 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am refining the blog draft that I will publish tomorrow morning
12:23:52 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh, we have draft schedule for day 1 ready
12:23:59 <VipulSiddharth[m> https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/Events/2022/4/1/
12:24:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> it's still a draft
12:24:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> but I am thinking is pretty much close to what it might look like
12:24:26 <VipulSiddharth[m> Second day is still under planning
12:24:41 <riecatnor[m]> fedocal wont load for me rn :(
12:25:08 <VipulSiddharth[m> Second day would be full of social calls, places where we can come up with ideas, some fun activities and a panel discussion with our outreachy mentees of past
12:25:27 <VipulSiddharth[m> I also want to invite other community members.. but we are still in "contact phase" of that
12:25:42 <riecatnor[m]> oh, now its loaded! looks great :)
12:25:46 <OnuralpSezer[m]> <VipulSiddharth[m> "#info Fedora Project was not..." <- Denied already?
12:26:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> We won't be able to do a paid workshop this time as mindshare ticket was not approved..
12:26:15 <VipulSiddharth[m> but hoping we will have better planned next time and start early :D
12:26:30 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am also hoping to have a working group dedicated to this along with docs and timelines
12:27:11 <riecatnor[m]> sounds great!
12:28:35 <riecatnor[m]> is there anything we can do to assist, Vipul?
12:29:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> register and when I have the blog ready, i will reach out for promotion :P
12:29:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh, I have a work call to attend now,
12:29:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> so have to go!
12:29:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> thank you for your support y'all
12:29:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am excited for this
12:29:41 <riecatnor[m]> thank you for making it happen!!
12:29:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> we need more mentors and thus more projects
12:29:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> which I think would result in more contributors
12:30:05 <riecatnor[m]> have a great day :)
12:30:19 <riecatnor[m]> #topic tickets
12:30:21 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/325
12:30:46 <riecatnor[m]> I am still working on this but I was given the feedback that they strongly recommend that we go with something other than white for the tablecloth
12:30:55 <riecatnor[m]> even with a runner over the top, it will get dirty quickly.
12:31:08 <riecatnor[m]> and, that was definitely a concern we had
12:31:21 <riecatnor[m]> but, I see their point again, and its making me reconsider
12:31:55 <riecatnor[m]> so what do folks think about a fedora blue tablecloth with a white logo?
12:32:02 <riecatnor[m]> because we can do full color, we can match it exactly
12:32:02 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Yes
12:32:16 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Less visible dirt
12:32:34 <VipulSiddharth[m> blue table cloth ++
12:32:42 <riecatnor[m]> ok, I will add a comment here and also to the corresponding design ticket
12:33:06 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/323
12:33:44 <riecatnor[m]> this is something that has been talked about for a long time, and I am getting the process started.. I expect it to take a while
12:34:19 <riecatnor[m]> I am most interested in working with the existing "satellite" fedora communities to adapt what they are using
12:34:51 <riecatnor[m]> I would like Mindshare to provide input throughout the process
12:37:11 <riecatnor[m]> is anyone here doing moderation for fedora now?
12:37:34 <riecatnor[m]> on telegram, matrix, reddit, etc
12:38:07 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: I do
12:38:17 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Matrix/tg
12:38:26 <riecatnor[m]> cool, thank you for that :)
12:38:44 <riecatnor[m]> do you have any documentation wrt moderation for either of those?
12:39:00 <OnuralpSezer[m]> For tg it is in group
12:39:08 <OnuralpSezer[m]> For matrix I preferably put in topic
12:39:27 <OnuralpSezer[m]> To point our CoC
12:39:36 <riecatnor[m]> gotcha gotcha
12:40:12 <OnuralpSezer[m]> We should re invent wheel over and over again I prefer to point out what we have
12:40:16 <riecatnor[m]> I think we want something more comprehensive, with some guidelines for moderators to actually do the moderation work. does that make sense?
12:40:16 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Easier to edit and control
12:40:26 <OnuralpSezer[m]> s/should/shouldn't/
12:41:48 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: That conflict with our other situation like (closing some of the chat platforms for favor or matrix server)
12:42:10 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Do want to put more effort to handle all or get them all in here
12:42:26 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * That conflict with our other situation like (closing some of the chat platforms for favor of matrix server)
12:43:03 <riecatnor[m]> so, I see the moderation guidelines as a tool
12:43:53 <riecatnor[m]> to continue to let people self-moderate, but consistently across all of our spaces
12:44:11 <riecatnor[m]> each platform will have some specifics of their own, that is fine
12:45:56 <riecatnor[m]> and we are def not trying to re-invent the wheel- these exist already, and im sure there are more examples out there.. the goal is to streamline them.. also if new community spaces pop up, they are all set with guidelines
12:47:46 <riecatnor[m]> we also occasionally have issues with moderators, too. this will help a standard for their behavior as well
12:48:32 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Okay
12:48:41 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I didn't see any but if you say so
12:49:17 <riecatnor[m]> #topic open floor
12:49:42 <riecatnor[m]> any other things to bring up today? I am still working on all the stuff from last weeks meeting
12:50:10 <riecatnor[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]: I mean code of conduct incidents, and there are many fedora spaces, so I am not surprised you haven't seen them
12:50:11 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I want coffee  :)
12:50:32 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Oh that's.... okay sorry
12:50:34 <riecatnor[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]: approved!
12:50:41 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I saw yes
12:51:25 <riecatnor[m]> I have some iced coffee 🧊☕️🧊
12:51:26 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: You have my addresses,I want fedora flavors version :)
12:51:43 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: I have snow in here so, no
12:52:16 <riecatnor[m]> lol, someone said to me yesterday "its really nice out today!" and I looked and the temp was 6C 🤣
12:52:53 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: That's relative not same for everyone:)
12:53:01 <riecatnor[m]> exactly lol!
12:53:03 <OnuralpSezer[m]> -1C here
12:53:25 <riecatnor[m]> today is 1C here
12:53:40 <riecatnor[m]> I feel the chilliness
12:54:18 <OnuralpSezer[m]> That's probably all of the ice coffee you  consume
12:54:31 <riecatnor[m]> i forget if we brought it up here when we were discussing socials, but Onuralp and I have been testing https://boardgamearena.com/
12:54:51 <riecatnor[m]> we should see if we can use that at a future social session, maybe the release party?
12:54:59 <OnuralpSezer[m]> +100
12:55:05 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Easy to use and play
12:55:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> or FMS
12:55:15 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Yes
12:55:16 <riecatnor[m]> whats FMS?
12:55:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> Fedora Mentor Summit
12:55:27 <VipulSiddharth[m> let's make it a thing now
12:55:36 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Made by Vipul
12:55:38 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Done
12:55:38 <riecatnor[m]> ahhh
12:55:48 <riecatnor[m]> oh, should we do that instead of pictionary?
12:55:53 <riecatnor[m]> or maybe we do that on the second day?
12:56:01 <VipulSiddharth[m> that's upto the DEI team lol ;)
12:56:08 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: yesss
12:56:21 <riecatnor[m]> there are 19 games on boardgamearena that take 10+ players
12:56:38 <riecatnor[m]> I've only played one of them lol
12:56:54 <riecatnor[m]> I guess if we have that many people we could split into two groups
12:57:20 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Marie you have too many ponies to work with it, chill out  :)))
12:57:43 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Vipul team vs Marie team ?? :)
12:58:11 <riecatnor[m]> too many ponies? lol what does that mean
12:58:12 <riecatnor[m]> haha
12:59:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Ask Aoife
12:59:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> She knows
12:59:44 <riecatnor[m]> lol ok
12:59:57 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Or mattdm
12:59:57 <riecatnor[m]> right, she has a bunch of horses lol
13:00:04 <riecatnor[m]> mattdm doesn't have horses tho, I am pretty sure.
13:00:28 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Check out his Twitter you will understand  :)
13:00:44 <riecatnor[m]> one last thing, start adding stuff to the quarterly report :) https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/315
13:00:50 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Jan 27
13:00:52 <riecatnor[m]> we will be publishing that early april
13:00:59 <riecatnor[m]> thanks everyone!
13:01:01 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting