13:00:18 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare
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13:00:23 <riecatnor[m]> #meetingname Mindshare
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13:01:02 <riecatnor[m]> #chair Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez Máirín Duffy Vipul Siddharth nb TillMaas pbokoc Onuralp Sezer relrod_
13:01:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: Alberto Duffy Máirín Onuralp Rodríguez Sezer Siddharth Sánchez TillMaas Vipul nb pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m]
13:01:08 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
13:01:13 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Hello
13:01:26 <OnuralpSezer[m]> .hello2 thunderbirdtr
13:01:27 <zodbot> OnuralpSezer[m]: Sorry, but user 'OnuralpSezer [m]' does not exist
13:01:27 <riecatnor[m]> hi there friends
13:01:32 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor
13:01:33 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
13:01:33 <OnuralpSezer[m]> .hello thunderbirdtr
13:01:35 <zodbot> OnuralpSezer[m]: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
13:01:48 <OnuralpSezer[m]> o/ Hello Marie
13:01:57 <riecatnor[m]> how are you doing today Onuralp Sezer
13:02:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I'm chilling and working . Also we have preparation for birthday party my sisters :)
13:02:39 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Looking for gifts as well
13:02:48 <OnuralpSezer[m]> you ? :=)
13:02:58 <riecatnor[m]> that sounds nice :)
13:03:11 <riecatnor[m]> just starting my day, have some coffee
13:03:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]> One day, I need to teach you the tea
13:03:24 <riecatnor[m]> trying not to look at the news too much.
13:03:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]> one day :)
13:03:40 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: don't start with those just yet
13:03:44 <OnuralpSezer[m]> chill
13:03:44 <OnuralpSezer[m]> :)
13:03:49 <riecatnor[m]> I have tea bags, probably not the same tho lol
13:04:13 <OnuralpSezer[m]> give me your addresses and I'll check what I can do :)
13:04:15 <OnuralpSezer[m]> to solve that problem :)
13:04:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]> s/addresses/address/
13:05:50 <riecatnor[m]> I like surprise tea!
13:06:01 <TillMaas[m]> .hello till
13:06:02 <zodbot> TillMaas[m]: till 'Till Maas' <opensource@till.name>
13:06:03 <OnuralpSezer[m]> cool !
13:06:10 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Hi Till o/
13:06:12 <riecatnor[m]> heya TillMaas
13:06:31 <riecatnor[m]> #topic announcements and information
13:06:55 <riecatnor[m]> #info The Fedora i18n and GNOME 42 test weeks are happening now, Feb 28th-March 7th
13:06:56 * chinosoliard is following this meeting for first time :)
13:07:01 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-i18n-and-gnome-42-test-weeks/
13:07:08 <riecatnor[m]> hiya chinosoliard !
13:07:16 <riecatnor[m]> #info EPEL is implementing monthly office hours the first Wednesday of every month at 1700 UTC
13:07:23 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/epel-office-hours/
13:07:29 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora is participating in the upcoming round of Outreachy and we are looking for projects and mentors!
13:07:35 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-projects-mentors-outreachy-may-2022/
13:07:49 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora is applying to GSoC and we are looking for projects and mentors!
13:07:54 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-for-projects-and-mentors-gsoc-2022/
13:08:14 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Community Outreach Revamp team is putting together an Ambassador Monthly Call, submit your availability to the whenisgood today!
13:08:19 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/join-the-fedora-ambassadors-call-kick-off/
13:08:29 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://whenisgood.net/Fedora-Ambassadors-Monthly-Call
13:08:39 <riecatnor[m]> #info Mizmo posted some fresh new website designs as part of the Fedora Website Revamp, looking for feedback!
13:08:44 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-workstation-front-page-revamp-first-cut-looking-for-feedback/37169
13:09:34 <riecatnor[m]> I think that's all I have today,
13:10:24 <riecatnor[m]> #link there are many CfPs open currently to interesting and related conferences, check them all out in Friday Fedora Facts
13:10:27 <riecatnor[m]> #undo
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13:10:41 <riecatnor[m]> #info there are many CfPs open currently to interesting and related conferences, check them all out in Friday Fedora Facts
13:10:46 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-08/
13:11:00 <riecatnor[m]> ok, now that's it :)
13:11:03 <riecatnor[m]> anyone else?
13:11:47 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Hi everyone,  not from me
13:12:06 <riecatnor[m]> Hiya Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez !
13:12:42 <riecatnor[m]> #topic today's agenda
13:12:57 <riecatnor[m]> We have some new tickets, plenty of ones that still need some progress so that is what I plan to focus on today
13:13:07 <riecatnor[m]> is there anything specific that folks would like to discuss?
13:14:33 <OnuralpSezer[m]> https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/321
13:14:44 <riecatnor[m]> we can cover that one :)
13:14:54 <riecatnor[m]> let's just get into it
13:14:56 <riecatnor[m]> #topic tickets
13:15:02 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/321
13:16:00 <TillMaas[m]> This is only about swag? Then +1. Would be great to know more in general, though.
13:16:20 <riecatnor[m]> generally, this looks good to me as well
13:16:24 <OnuralpSezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: +1 I know his work before
13:16:41 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Side note : Geri was away from fedora away,  and he just returned also sent me e-mail about event for more people from Fedora
13:16:54 <riecatnor[m]> we can ask for a short event report for the comm blog?
13:16:57 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Cool
13:16:57 <OnuralpSezer[m]> so I would like to see another success for him  as well.
13:17:02 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Yes
13:17:04 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Sure,
13:17:12 <AlbertoRodrguezS> +1 too
13:17:12 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I can even ask him directly as well
13:17:25 <riecatnor[m]> please add your +1's and any questions to the ticket :)
13:17:32 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Awesome, thank you
13:17:47 <riecatnor[m]> anything more for that?
13:18:06 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/320
13:18:30 <riecatnor[m]> I would like to focus on picking a date so that I can start the process to reserve Hopin
13:18:31 <riecatnor[m]> May 6th & 7th (comfortable)
13:18:31 <riecatnor[m]> May 13th & 14th (extra safe)
13:18:50 <riecatnor[m]> preference/thoughts on either of these?
13:19:08 <riecatnor[m]> the ratings are for distance from the release ;)
13:19:27 <AlbertoRodrguezS> May 13 & 14 sounds good
13:20:50 <riecatnor[m]> are there any other events in May that we might want to avoid overlapping with?
13:22:43 <OnuralpSezer[m]> I don't personally any overlapping one
13:22:49 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * I don't know personally any overlapping one with ours
13:22:54 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Me is thinking
13:23:47 <riecatnor[m]> I am +1 for may 13th & 14th, though I'd like to give it a day or two more, maybe more Mindshare folks can take a look to make sure there are no conflicts
13:24:39 <TillMaas[m]> I don't have an overview about other events - do we collect them anywhere? For example the dates for the applications that we got via tickets?
13:25:25 <riecatnor[m]> Maintaining an open source event registry sounds like a job in itself 😅
13:25:38 <riecatnor[m]> but, no we don't necessarily collect ours in one place either
13:26:24 <riecatnor[m]> so, I will add to the ticket that we are leaning towards May 13th & 14th
13:26:30 <OnuralpSezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: uhm there was a website for follow almost alls
13:26:46 <riecatnor[m]> thoughts about relevant topics/speakers for the F36 release party?
13:28:16 <OnuralpSezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: https://foss.events/
13:29:31 <TillMaas[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]: Thank you. https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/321 is actually in May and not listed there.
13:29:31 <riecatnor[m]> the IoT folks would like to have a session, and I would like to invite CPE to do an update and Q&A session for the community
13:29:59 <OnuralpSezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: Yeah... not perfect one
13:31:05 <riecatnor[m]> looking here to see if there is anything that should be highlighted, but its kind of hard for me to tell. I would lean on your help for that :)  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/36/ChangeSet#Fedora_Linux_36_Accepted_System-Wide_Changes
13:32:03 <riecatnor[m]> we can invite the objective teams to do sessions: website & apps revamp and the community outreach revamp
13:32:47 <AlbertoRodrguezS> That sounds great
13:33:44 <riecatnor[m]> Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez: i had messaged you about this comment from josereyesjdi, were you able to find out more info?
13:34:11 <TillMaas[m]> Podman 4.0 might be interesting
13:34:47 <TillMaas[m]> Maybe also Ansible 5
13:34:51 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Yeah, we talk about using a Spanish space for talks
13:35:27 <riecatnor[m]> Thank you for the suggestions TillMaas those are helpful
13:35:47 <TillMaas[m]> Maybe something about Modules, too, not sure how big the impact of their change is
13:36:52 <riecatnor[m]> Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez: to clarify, would you like to run a separate event? or is the intention to be part of the general Release Party?
13:37:13 <riecatnor[m]> both can be options :) just want to make sure I understand
13:37:46 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Being part of the release party 🎉
13:38:05 <riecatnor[m]> awesome!
13:38:33 <riecatnor[m]> did you come up with more details for what that might look like? would you like to have a set of sessions?
13:39:30 <AlbertoRodrguezS> We talk about something like a lightning talks
13:39:49 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Let me document it on the ticket
13:41:03 <riecatnor[m]> cool, that will be helpful
13:41:31 <riecatnor[m]> ok, any more thoughts about release party topics?
13:42:06 <TillMaas[m]> Any ideas for the social session?
13:42:22 <TillMaas[m]> Do we want to try playing games again?
13:42:27 <riecatnor[m]> yes, absolutely :)
13:42:36 <TillMaas[m]> I forgot the name of the game that did not work last time
13:42:41 <riecatnor[m]> was really sad when Among Us ddin't work
13:42:46 <TillMaas[m]> yes, that one
13:43:00 <riecatnor[m]> did we figure out what was the issue with that?
13:43:16 <TillMaas[m]> they just upgraded their servers shortly before that/rolled out a new version
13:43:21 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Blame the servers
13:43:21 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Last time It was fine
13:43:24 <OnuralpSezer[m]> :((
13:43:47 <riecatnor[m]> hmmm, maybe we could test it in advance? like the day before?
13:44:03 <riecatnor[m]> I am not sure if that is enough to guarantee that it will work during the event tho
13:44:22 <TillMaas[m]> I am happy to participate in a test
13:44:27 <riecatnor[m]> same :D
13:44:37 <riecatnor[m]> I would be happy to do pictionary, as always
13:44:43 <riecatnor[m]> should we see if Aoife is interested in the pub quize
13:44:47 <riecatnor[m]> s/quize/quiz/
13:45:51 <riecatnor[m]> Also, I think we have some time to get to socials.. the dates and the topics are the most important to get rolling now
13:46:03 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: sure please
13:46:11 <OnuralpSezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: thank you
13:46:20 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: maybe boards games ?
13:46:21 <OnuralpSezer[m]> for change ?
13:46:37 <riecatnor[m]> boardgamearena is quite fun, there are a ton of games on there
13:47:00 <riecatnor[m]> boardgamearena.com
13:47:20 <OnuralpSezer[m]> also Marie one more thing for this event
13:47:31 <OnuralpSezer[m]> please open all the rooms ahead of time like devconf
13:47:41 <riecatnor[m]> x3mboy showed me a better version of online pictionary where we can have unlimited participants
13:47:41 <OnuralpSezer[m]> so people can have fully history of all
13:47:44 <riecatnor[m]> hmmm
13:47:49 <OnuralpSezer[m]> and read later too
13:47:53 <OnuralpSezer[m]> for links and etc.
13:47:57 <riecatnor[m]> so, the way that devconf does it is they have tracks with moderators
13:48:12 <OnuralpSezer[m]> but they keep open rooms all the times
13:48:18 <OnuralpSezer[m]> so we can access old chat too
13:48:19 <riecatnor[m]> all of the videos come in one long file, so to edit them is quite difficult
13:48:32 <riecatnor[m]> whereas with different sessions, its all neatly divided for us
13:48:38 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: open seperate room for each talk
13:48:42 <OnuralpSezer[m]> not combine them
13:48:46 <riecatnor[m]> plus then I have metrics for each session
13:49:26 <riecatnor[m]> so you just want each session to be open for longer?
13:49:45 <TillMaas[m]> I think it is annoying having to join new rooms for sessions when I am only partially listening, to be honest. Would be nice to be able to listen to some tracks just like radio.
13:50:35 <TillMaas[m]> and being able to pause and rewind would be nice, too ;-)
13:50:48 <OnuralpSezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: yes but editing work is oof too
13:50:53 <riecatnor[m]> I am open to trying that format.. but it will be harder on our video editors
13:50:53 <OnuralpSezer[m]> we have slice them
13:51:09 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Till they have life too please mercy to video editors :P
13:51:17 <riecatnor[m]> Ben & Onuralp have been doing that mostly :) thank you kindly
13:51:21 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * we have to  slice the videos
13:51:42 <riecatnor[m]> so, I can put that and are other notes on the ticket
13:52:04 <riecatnor[m]> I have one more ticket I would like to briefly address before the end of our meeting
13:52:20 <riecatnor[m]> s/are/our/
13:52:37 <TillMaas[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]: I did not know about this problem before today maybe there could be some rough initial slicing to help there
13:52:54 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/319
13:53:11 <riecatnor[m]> thank you for commenting TillMaas
13:53:23 <riecatnor[m]> anyone else have thoughts about sponsoring LAS?
13:54:08 <TillMaas[m]> I believe we sponsored it also before, are there any reports that allow to find out what went well and what can be improved?
13:54:53 <riecatnor[m]> We sponsored it last year, and iirc, I ended up doing a "How to Join Fedora" session because the workstation people didn't show up?
13:55:26 <riecatnor[m]> and, I didn't have time to also do an event report.. but my feeling is that if the workstation folks want us to be there, they need to take more ownership
13:56:00 <OnuralpSezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: 🤣🤣 We had backup (and winging it) :)
13:56:14 <OnuralpSezer[m]> * We had a backup (and
13:56:42 <riecatnor[m]> I think our questions on the ticket are driving at that, so let's see the response that comes
13:57:37 <TillMaas[m]> riecatnor[m]: Also, it would be good to have a high quality/relevant presence
13:57:51 <riecatnor[m]> absolutely, those are the folks it is relevant to
13:57:58 <riecatnor[m]> I am happy to support, but I am not the best fit
13:58:47 <riecatnor[m]> well, let's see what they respond with and go from there
13:59:04 <OnuralpSezer[m]> yup
13:59:09 <riecatnor[m]> anyone else is welcome to drop their thoughts/comments/questions as well
14:00:03 <riecatnor[m]> thanks to everyone for the discussion today! hope everyone has the best day they can have :)
14:00:15 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting