mindshare
MINUTES
20:00:32 <riecatnor[m]1> #startmeeting Mindshare
20:00:32 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 18 20:00:32 2021 UTC.
20:00:32 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location.
20:00:32 <zodbot> The chair is riecatnor[m]1. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions.
20:00:32 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
20:00:32 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare'
20:00:51 <riecatnor[m]1> hmmm
20:01:45 <riecatnor[m]1> something is wrong with the bot?
20:01:55 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Maybe we need reprot it
20:01:56 * riecatnor[m]1 uploaded an image: (58KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/a6caae8a63ee9708bc63f3431cdeb5df90d5a320/Screenshot%20from%202021-11-18%2015-01-33.png >
20:02:01 <AlbertoRodrguezS> *report
20:02:12 <riecatnor> testing
20:02:26 <riecatnor[m]1> I think all the messages from IRC are  blocked
20:02:35 <riecatnor[m]1> nb: around today?
20:03:18 <riecatnor[m]1> Hi Mindshare!
20:03:19 <riecatnor[m]1> bt0dotninja codeblock tyll nb pbokoc riecatnor thunderbirdtr siddharthvipul relrod mizmo @OnuralpSezer[m] @PetrBokoc[m]
20:03:54 <riecatnor[m]1> we are having some technical difficulties currently.. who else is around for the meeting today?
20:08:02 <AlbertoRodrguezS> looks delayed?
20:11:09 <riecatnor[m]1> hmm
20:11:16 <riecatnor> testing
20:11:27 <riecatnor[m]1> oh, that one came right through!
20:11:46 <riecatnor[m]1> #meetingname Mindshare
20:11:46 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare'
20:11:46 <riecatnor[m]1> #chair @bt0dotninja codeblock tyll nb pbokoc riecatnor thunderbirdtr siddharthvipul relrod mizmo @OnuralpSezer[m] @PetrBokoc[m]
20:11:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: @OnuralpSezer[m] @PetrBokoc[m] @bt0dotninja codeblock mizmo nb pbokoc relrod riecatnor riecatnor[m]1 siddharthvipul thunderbirdtr tyll
20:11:48 <riecatnor[m]1> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
20:11:53 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic Hello
20:12:05 <riecatnor[m]1> .hello riecatnor
20:12:06 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]1: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
20:13:31 <AlbertoRodrguezS> hello
20:14:56 <mizmo> o/
20:15:08 <riecatnor[m]1> heya Alberto and Máirín Duffy !
20:15:41 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic announcements and information
20:15:51 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/231354
20:16:09 <riecatnor[m]1> #info F35 release retrospective survey open until Dec 4th!
20:16:56 <riecatnor[m]1> #info nominations for the F35 elections are now closed, voting starts November 26th
20:17:01 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Nominations
20:17:55 <riecatnor[m]1> #info Fedora CoreOS is looking for feedback on their communication, take a couple minutes to respond to their survey!
20:17:57 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/865299
20:18:25 <riecatnor[m]1> #info development is happening for the F36 wallpaper, join the conversation!
20:18:28 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linux-36-wallpaper-brainstorming/
20:19:49 <riecatnor[m]1> #info the replay tab on Hopin allows folks who registered for the F35 release party to go back and replay the sessions- otherwise look forward to videos uploaded to youtube! (soonlyish)
20:19:53 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://app.hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-35-release-party/replay
20:20:09 <AlbertoRodrguezS> I love the replay option :)
20:20:30 <riecatnor[m]1> I think its great! an overdue feature
20:20:52 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, does anyone have more announcements or info to share? we will move onto discussion in a moment
20:21:12 <AlbertoRodrguezS> not from me
20:22:42 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic discussion
20:22:59 <riecatnor[m]1> anything folks want to discuss specifically today?
20:23:19 <riecatnor[m]1> I have an update about tshirts that I would like to review
20:23:30 <mizmo> i was wondering how beat the bomb went. the bomb unfortunately exploded in my workstation so i missed it ☹️
20:24:03 <riecatnor[m]1> side note- Im trying to make a little change in how I run the meeting- in between info & announcements and tickets. So if people have something pressing or important I can make sure we have enough  time
20:24:06 <riecatnor[m]1> If I forget, remind me :)
20:24:24 <riecatnor[m]1> Such a bummer, Máirín Duffy :(
20:24:25 <riecatnor[m]1> it was really fun tho!
20:24:47 <riecatnor[m]1> My team lost the hardest lol it wasn't easy
20:25:08 <mizmo> Alex mentioned being able to make video of it available if we wanted
20:25:30 <riecatnor[m]1> oh god it was being recorded 🤣
20:25:45 <mizmo> I had been hoping to do it and blog how it went. If hes able to get me video maybe I could do a blog post based on that and interview folks who played
20:25:51 <mizmo> i think its a highlight reel style thing
20:25:59 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, sure! that would be cool :)
20:26:18 <riecatnor[m]1> everyone seemed to have a lot of fun tho
20:26:29 <riecatnor[m]1> I think the hardest thing was having people all over the world, the website would lag
20:26:55 <riecatnor[m]1> so, you had to be quick about entering things, and the lag was causing some issues
20:26:58 <mizmo> yeh... i had mentioned that to him upfront, he had a few corp events where there were teams from diff parts of the world but probably not as diverse locations as we have
20:27:26 <riecatnor[m]1> hopefully as they grow they can figure more of that out
20:27:43 <riecatnor[m]1> but even Hopin seems to struggle sooooo
20:28:05 <riecatnor[m]1> #topic tickets
20:28:14 <mizmo> well if anybody who played wouldnt mind being interviewed about it please let me know!!
20:28:48 <riecatnor[m]1> I am up for that! I know Sumantro was also on my team, he would most likely be up for that..Ben also played
20:29:01 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/301
20:29:21 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, so, we have tshirt options
20:30:30 <riecatnor[m]1> OPTION !
20:30:35 <riecatnor[m]1> * OPTION 1
20:30:38 <riecatnor[m]1> http://nadelwilmingtonshop.com/ProductDetails/?productId=550378344&imageId=48539544&tab=Tile&referrerPage=ProductResults&refPgId=526271826&referrerModule=PRDREB
20:30:50 <riecatnor[m]1> http://nadelwilmingtonshop.com/ProductDetails/?productId=550832551&imageId=46379592&tab=Tile&referrerPage=ProductResults&refPgId=526271826&referrerModule=PRDREB
20:30:54 <riecatnor[m]1> 1,000 shirts: $7.70 each
20:30:54 <riecatnor[m]1> 1 color / 1 location imprint
20:31:03 <riecatnor[m]1> OPTION 2
20:31:12 <riecatnor[m]1> http://nadelwilmingtonshop.com/ProductDetails/?productId=553018402&imageId=42554175&tab=Tile&referrerPage=ProductResults&refPgId=526271826&referrerModule=PRDREB
20:31:16 <riecatnor[m]1> http://nadelwilmingtonshop.com/ProductDetails/?productId=552863097&imageId=41624551&tab=Tile&referrerPage=ProductResults&refPgId=526271826&referrerModule=PRDREB
20:31:25 <riecatnor[m]1> 1,000 shirts: $9.60 each
20:31:25 <riecatnor[m]1> 1 color / 1 location imprint
20:31:40 <riecatnor[m]1> OPTION 3
20:31:41 <riecatnor[m]1> http://nadelwilmingtonshop.com/ProductDetails/?productId=7246031&imageId=30209858&tab=Tile&referrerPage=ProductResults&refPgId=526271826&referrerModule=PRDREB
20:31:48 <riecatnor[m]1> http://nadelwilmingtonshop.com/ProductDetails/?productId=7246052&imageId=30209961&tab=Tile&referrerPage=ProductResults&refPgId=526271826&referrerModule=PRDREB
20:31:55 <riecatnor[m]1> 1,000 shirts: $12.05 each
20:31:55 <riecatnor[m]1> 1 color / 1 location imprint
20:32:15 <riecatnor[m]1> Samples of each of these are being sent to me
20:32:31 <MadelinePeck[m]> oooh many options!
20:32:55 <riecatnor[m]1> so you have a basic, and then an eco-friendly option, and then a super econscious option
20:33:07 <riecatnor[m]1> reflected in the pricing, as I expected.
20:33:35 <AlbertoRodrguezS> yes, how good and soft is the option 2?
20:33:51 <riecatnor[m]1> riecatnor[m]1: I should have these soon! Hopefully by next week
20:33:59 <AlbertoRodrguezS> cool
20:34:11 <mizmo> "Feel your impact in this crazy-soft sustainable tee that uses an equivalent of up to 6 recycled plastic water bottles. "   crazy soft? hehe
20:34:19 <riecatnor[m]1> lol
20:35:01 <riecatnor[m]1> not the best descriptor 🙈
20:35:26 <AlbertoRodrguezS> crazy soft sounds soooo good
20:35:29 <riecatnor[m]1> my thought is that the middle of the road option will suit us best?
20:35:34 <riecatnor[m]1> do folks have other first impressions
20:36:16 <AlbertoRodrguezS> option 2 sounds good but myabe we can wait for the samples
20:36:26 <riecatnor[m]1> for the econscious Men's only go up to 2XL
20:36:54 <riecatnor[m]1> so, I kinda think that is a blocker
20:36:54 <riecatnor[m]1> ?
20:37:22 <AlbertoRodrguezS> yes, it is
20:37:32 <riecatnor[m]1> their are additional costs as well for the XL tshirts for all the options. For the allmade, this would be the complete breakout
20:37:35 <riecatnor[m]1> 1,000 shirts: $9.60 each
20:37:35 <riecatnor[m]1> 2XL's: +$1.00 each
20:37:35 <riecatnor[m]1> 3XL's: +$3.00 each
20:37:35 <riecatnor[m]1> 4XL's: +$4.00 each
20:39:42 <AlbertoRodrguezS> oks, make sense
20:40:14 <riecatnor[m]1> cool, so I will add these links to the ticket along with a bit of commentary and I will provide an update once I get the samples
20:40:41 <riecatnor[m]1> I am not sure the second design will be ready before the end of the year (the fedora classic) so I asked for a quote on polos too (for ambassadors)
20:42:06 <riecatnor[m]1> any other thoughts/comments/preferences?
20:42:41 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Not from me
20:44:12 <riecatnor[m]1> cool!
20:44:39 <riecatnor[m]1> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/304
20:44:53 <riecatnor[m]1> so, we have had a lot of folks having different experiences with this cool stuff store collection
20:45:14 <riecatnor[m]1> after logging in (as a red hatter or not) are you able to see any items on this page: https://coolstuff.redhat.com/category/133/fedora-project
20:54:43 <riecatnor[m]1> anyone? :)
20:54:48 <mizmo> it has a red hat employee sso button and an external user email password login prompt
20:54:49 <mizmo> i was trying to post a screenshot but the flatpak for element cant access my screenshots dir
20:54:52 <riecatnor[m]1> right, people are still struggling to see things there tho after logging in and I am trying to determine if that is by country or something else
20:54:57 * MadelinePeck[m] uploaded an image: (198KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/78900b09ad93564bb5dfa16178dc2158598f038a/ima_a70c92b.jpeg >
20:54:57 <mizmo> well i was sent a link to a specific product in the store during the company call earlier this week. no matter what i did the direct link would not work
20:54:58 <MadelinePeck[m]> my first view on mobile
20:54:58 <mizmo> even when logged in
20:54:58 <mizmo> but i could find it digging thru the menus
20:54:59 <riecatnor[m]1> When I asked the cool stuff store(CSS), they said everyone should be able to see products there
20:54:59 <mizmo> it would just send me to the normal front page instead of the product the link was for
20:55:04 <MadelinePeck[m]> Yea right now I see two different shirts, a mug and a bottle listed on the opening page
20:55:05 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, after you've logged in tho
20:55:05 <riecatnor[m]1> go to this link
20:55:06 <MadelinePeck[m]> Eek I would have to agree 😆 Yes after I was logged in
20:55:06 <riecatnor[m]1> https://coolstuff.redhat.com/category/133/fedora-project
20:55:07 <riecatnor[m]1> MadelinePeck[m]: thats is *not* a good first impression, oof
20:55:10 <MadelinePeck[m]> Ahh I see fedora merch
20:55:10 <riecatnor[m]1> another annoying thing is that is has you log in, and after that is complete it redirects you to the front page instead of to the fedora collection
20:55:11 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Right
20:55:11 <riecatnor[m]1> your experience just now, Madeline
20:55:12 <MadelinePeck[m]> Ahhh
20:55:12 <mizmo> its a routing issue, should be easy to fix on whomever maintains it
20:55:13 <riecatnor[m]1> I will pass that along with any other notes we have
20:55:14 <MadelinePeck[m]> the fedora bandana is cool!
20:55:14 <riecatnor[m]1> agreeeee :D
20:55:15 <riecatnor[m]1> ok, so you can see it. How about you Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez ?
20:55:50 <AlbertoRodrguezS> First a login page and then the main page
20:56:06 <riecatnor[m]1> try this again now that you are logged in
20:56:07 <riecatnor[m]1> https://coolstuff.redhat.com/category/133/fedora-project
20:56:07 <AlbertoRodrguezS> I'm registered as external
20:57:11 <riecatnor[m]1> any luck?
20:57:26 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Yes
20:57:28 <AlbertoRodrguezS> Logged
20:57:34 <riecatnor[m]1> ok
20:57:48 <riecatnor[m]1> well, we are almost out of time
20:58:06 <riecatnor[m]1> I think we mostly proved that the CSS set up and UX is pretty much not great.
20:58:16 <riecatnor[m]1> I will talk to the vendor about waht we can do
20:58:30 <riecatnor[m]1> thank you for being here Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez Máirín Duffy Madeline Peck !
20:58:33 * AlbertoRodrguezS uploaded an image: (42KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/t2bot.io/97047fdc729f0ec56442757e591461697ed8133e/image.jpeg >
20:59:19 <riecatnor[m]1> yeah, I wonder if this report is user error because the UX is bad
20:59:39 <riecatnor[m]1> anyways.. see ya next week!
20:59:42 <riecatnor[m]1> #endmeeting