16:31:42 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Mindshare
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16:31:42 <riecatnor> #meetingname Mindshare
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16:31:42 <riecatnor> #chair bt0dotninja codeblock tyll nb pbokoc riecatnor @tatica siddharthvipul relrod mizmo
16:31:42 <riecatnor> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
16:31:42 <riecatnor> #topic Hello
16:31:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: @tatica bt0dotninja codeblock mizmo nb pbokoc relrod riecatnor siddharthvipul tyll
16:31:49 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Hi
16:31:57 <nb> I am not here
16:32:03 <nb> I am helpign prep things on libera.chat
16:32:07 <siddharthvipul> guess who is here without completing his action item.. me!!
16:32:11 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Right
16:32:12 <siddharthvipul> nb: for Fedoa?
16:32:15 <siddharthvipul> Fedora**
16:32:32 <nb> siddharthvipul yeah, I think we are officially waiting for council to say it's ok, but I'm pretty sure that is what is going to happen
16:32:45 <nb> I do not trust Freenode.  Most of Freenode staff quit after the hostile takeover
16:32:48 <nb> and they formed libera.chat
16:32:53 <riecatnor> hi peeps
16:32:58 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
16:32:59 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
16:32:59 <siddharthvipul> nb: yeah, I am following council ticket
16:33:05 <siddharthvipul> .hello siddharthvipul1
16:33:06 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
16:33:18 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, aren't you supposed to be resting??
16:33:35 <siddharthvipul> right, I am! see you from telegram (maybe)
16:33:37 <siddharthvipul> ^-^
16:33:43 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor++
16:33:44 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> .hi
16:34:16 <x3mboy> Oh, that didn't pass thoughttelegram
16:34:19 <x3mboy> * Oh, that didn't pass thought telegram
16:34:21 <x3mboy> .hi
16:34:22 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
16:35:00 <thunderbirdtr> .hi
16:35:03 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
16:35:18 <riecatnor> hullooo!
16:35:23 <x3mboy> I'm sorry, I know I'm not a member anymore, but I feel like I belong here
16:35:59 <mizmo> o/
16:35:59 <riecatnor> no need to be sorry x3mboy
16:36:00 <riecatnor> you do!
16:36:24 <riecatnor> #topic announcements
16:36:26 <x3mboy> riecatnor: awww thanks!
16:36:29 <riecatnor> any announcements for today?
16:36:34 <x3mboy> mizmo: o/
16:36:57 <x3mboy> New respins where release yesterday I think
16:37:40 <riecatnor> #info there is a good chance fedora will move from freenode to libera. conversation ongoing
16:37:41 <x3mboy> Oh it was on 14th
16:37:42 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/371
16:38:05 <mizmo> oh my
16:38:13 <riecatnor> #info Fedora Linux 32 will reach end of life on Tuesday 25 May
16:38:20 <riecatnor> yea :/
16:38:46 <osezer> so many of us already registered over there already.
16:39:18 <riecatnor> I would be announcing the elections opening tomorrow, but we are having some technical hiccups bc of the fedora account migration
16:39:29 <riecatnor> keep your eyes open for that, I think they are still trying to make it happen on time
16:40:15 <osezer> ok
16:40:37 <riecatnor> #topic tickets
16:41:43 <riecatnor> there has been no activity in the repo since lasts week meeting, so can choose what we want to tackle today.
16:41:57 <riecatnor> does anyone have a particular ticket they would like to address?
16:42:27 <osezer> https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/269
16:43:09 <riecatnor> sure!
16:43:12 <riecatnor> #info https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/269
16:43:15 <riecatnor> #undo
16:43:15 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by riecatnor at 16:43:12 : https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/269
16:43:21 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/269
16:43:30 <siddharthvipul> +1 +1 +1
16:43:51 <osezer> +1
16:44:11 <riecatnor> ok, so I think arranging a one time event will be easiest to tackle first
16:44:38 <osezer> and platform ?
16:44:42 <x3mboy> !
16:44:43 <siddharthvipul> Jitsi
16:45:10 <siddharthvipul> x3mboy: do you have a question?
16:45:20 <riecatnor> well, I was think about a "fun activity" over a normal social
16:45:34 <x3mboy> I have a question and an opinion
16:46:34 <riecatnor> ok
16:46:36 <riecatnor> go ahead
16:46:49 <x3mboy> IMO, if the hangout is to "socialize" and not to work on mindhsare stuff, it's ok to use jitsi, but if you're going to work but in a virtual F2F manner, I suggest to use BluJeans
16:47:10 <x3mboy> And the question is not related to this, so I can wait until the topic is done
16:47:34 <x3mboy> * IMO, if the hangout is to "socialize" and not to work on mindhsare stuff, it's ok to use jitsi, but if you're going to work but in a virtual F2F manner, I suggest to use BlueJeans
16:47:41 <siddharthvipul> x3mboy: oh, I am not very solid on Jitsi, but wondering if you have a reason :)
16:48:23 <siddharthvipul> we use if for Fedora Infra and Releng stand ups and so far it's been working fine with 10 people.. can't say for more than that! if it's convenience and reliability, I am even +1 to gmeet
16:48:39 <x3mboy> Jitsi have lower quality to record, and if it's formal mindshare work, we will want to record and publish on YouTube
16:48:48 <mizmo> The main issue with Jitsi is recording is difficult
16:49:02 <mizmo> When we have our matrix set up though it will come with jitsi and potentially recording
16:49:10 <siddharthvipul> I see! I don't deal with recording so yeah, I see the poing
16:49:12 <siddharthvipul> point*
16:49:29 <riecatnor> good points x3mboy
16:50:02 * riecatnor is googling fun activities & companies that provide them
16:50:52 <siddharthvipul> fun activities are fine, but I am +1 to having a mindshare hackfest or a call with community too.. advertisement on what mindshare does while doing some work
16:51:39 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> +1
16:51:43 <riecatnor> I was thinking about doing a Mindshare session at nest
16:52:07 <riecatnor> semi related :) re: community call
16:52:12 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> +1 too
16:52:40 <mizmo> riecatnor: in one of the twitch streams i follow we did this game where they throw you somewhere on a google streetview and you have to guess where they put you
16:52:47 <mizmo> its actually a surprisingly fun group activity
16:52:52 <mizmo> i am trying to remember the name of it
16:53:06 <siddharthvipul> geoguesser?
16:53:13 <mizmo> https://www.geoguessr.com/
16:53:16 <mizmo> yep thats it
16:53:19 <siddharthvipul> I love these :D
16:53:27 <siddharthvipul> I suck at these... but I love these
16:53:45 <riecatnor> cool!
16:53:58 <riecatnor> can we set it up and run it ourselves?
16:54:04 <siddharthvipul> we can actually do amongst us.. everyone gets 1 game per day.. a bunch of us can do 1:1 and all of us can discuss through
16:54:06 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yess, I can help
16:54:07 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Looks great
16:54:24 <x3mboy> I still love pictionary games
16:54:28 <siddharthvipul> I am willing to give you a demo riecatnor if you want
16:54:37 <misc> siddharthvipul: you would always be sus for amongus
16:54:42 <siddharthvipul> x3mboy: +1, give this a try.. you would love this
16:54:48 <riecatnor> so maybe, we should do a couple games we can run ourselves for "social time"
16:55:13 <siddharthvipul> misc: while you are not wrong, in that message I was not pointing to among us game lol
16:55:15 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/238
16:55:20 <riecatnor> we also had this ticket about a hackfest
16:55:41 <mizmo> to be honest, lol, one person could pick the spot and just not play while the rest guess i dont think you need geoclue to do it
16:56:04 <siddharthvipul> mizmo: that's... not a bad idea :P
16:56:44 <siddharthvipul> but but but.. for the sake of it.. I love geoguessr :P
16:57:12 <riecatnor> ok, so we have two different things going. One is a fun social session, the other a hackfest. Should they be on the same day or separate?
16:57:47 <siddharthvipul> for me, separate since day job and other volunteer work is already a bit heavy lately
16:58:45 <siddharthvipul> okay, sorry people! I need to leave for the day :(
16:59:04 <siddharthvipul> thank you riecatnor for chairing..
16:59:19 <osezer> For fun social session : can create "game list" and pick the game we wanted to play and  and create "badge" for  "win" or just joining the game but making badge rarer (only for wins) makes more "fun" a little bit competitive games won't hurt
16:59:44 <riecatnor> how about I create a whenisgood for the month of June. I take the two best times and we use one to work on tickets (and closing tickets hopefully), one for a social session
17:00:01 <osezer> both of them at the same time depends us I think for "time wise" and If that won't fit.  one day at the time will be better*
17:00:21 <riecatnor> I don't think we should make a badge that only mindshare folks will earn
17:00:51 <osezer> <riecatnor "I don't think we should make a b"> for social stuff we can be public ?
17:01:19 <osezer> > <@freenode_riecatnor:matrix.org> I don't think we should make a badge that only mindshare folks will earn
17:01:19 <osezer> * for social stuff we can be public ? (but If it is mindshare only nvm my idea then)
17:01:28 <osezer> (but If it is mindshare only nvm my idea then)*
17:01:57 <riecatnor> I think we can do a games badge for other social events? like you played a game at a fedora social
17:02:02 <riecatnor> seems nice :)
17:02:46 <osezer> that could work.
17:03:11 <riecatnor> i dont want exclusive, the point is really to bring the mindshare folks together specifically to have some time to hang out with out worrying about tickets, to do lists, or drama in the open source world :P
17:03:33 <osezer> without drama in the open source world :P == YES ! :)
17:03:35 <riecatnor> as if we were doing a F2F out in the real world.. gasp
17:03:38 <osezer> It never ends :)
17:03:56 <riecatnor> so, whenisgood for the month of June?
17:05:45 <osezer> June is fine for me
17:05:47 <osezer> +1
17:05:54 <siddharthvipul> yep, let's do it
17:06:13 <riecatnor> ok! I will add it to the ticket, send here, also the list
17:06:46 <siddharthvipul> \o/
17:07:47 * siddharthvipul is out for real
17:07:57 <riecatnor> bye siddharthvipul !
17:08:01 <riecatnor> thank you for being here!
17:08:03 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/273
17:08:05 <siddharthvipul> \o :D
17:08:34 <riecatnor> honestly, i am out of energy to make graphs and write a blog post for the f34 release party....
17:08:44 <riecatnor> I did make the cover slides for the videos!
17:08:49 <osezer> for videos I'm almost done (like %95 done)
17:08:50 <riecatnor> osezer, hows the video editing going?
17:08:53 <riecatnor> oh yay!!!
17:09:01 <osezer> can make graphs as well
17:09:19 <riecatnor> i know bt0 had something he used for making Nest graphs
17:09:21 <riecatnor> they came out prety
17:09:23 <riecatnor> pretty*
17:09:40 <riecatnor> @bt0dotninja not sure if you are with us rn :)
17:10:07 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Half here :(
17:10:10 <osezer> bt0:   bt0dotninja  bt0_  hello ? o/  :)
17:10:23 <riecatnor> no worries bt0, just curious what you used to generate the graphs for nest
17:10:36 <osezer> bt0dotninja:  do you have the magic script ? ( I believe you used python ? )
17:10:43 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Yeah
17:10:56 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Is python
17:11:17 <osezer> If it is python,  +100 for me to do it.
17:11:29 <osezer> and I believe It was matplotlib/numpy stuff ?
17:13:21 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Yes
17:13:28 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> I can share it
17:13:37 <thunderbirdtr> please do,
17:15:26 <riecatnor> great :)
17:15:36 <riecatnor> I can do a short write up to accompany
17:16:04 <riecatnor> let's shoot to have it all wrapped up by the end of the month
17:16:25 <thunderbirdtr> I'm already sorry for passing my deadline a bit
17:16:25 <riecatnor> I will also open a ticket about doing a nest session
17:16:33 <thunderbirdtr> need to work faster :(
17:16:36 <riecatnor> thunderbirdtr, please do not worry one bit!
17:16:50 <riecatnor> 95% done and it is only the 19th ;)
17:17:30 <riecatnor> #topic open floor
17:17:37 <riecatnor> anything for open floor?
17:19:06 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, there is a question from opensuse event ( can we re-use workadventure maps we have over there for social times) ?
17:19:36 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, If answer is yes, I'll write a email and cc you and start conversation about it.
17:19:41 <riecatnor> thunderbirdtr, can you clarify a little? do they want to use ours? or do you want to use theirs?
17:19:50 <thunderbirdtr> "ours"*
17:20:06 <thunderbirdtr> fedora ones*
17:20:12 <riecatnor> oh nice, sure they can!
17:20:15 <riecatnor> I have another note on this
17:20:23 <riecatnor> really it is
17:20:33 <thunderbirdtr> Awesome !!
17:20:36 <riecatnor> #info Fedora has 4 outreachy interns starting may 24th
17:20:43 <tyll> I guess it would be good to license them as CC for this
17:21:11 <riecatnor> The applicant who built the map we voted to use is the one who has been selected for the internship, Dhairya
17:21:38 <riecatnor> I met with her today, and one of the things I will have her work on is work adventure maps. her internship will run through nest, so I will be working with her to create one for that specifically
17:21:55 <riecatnor> I also want to create a second smaller map for the fedora social hours
17:22:01 <riecatnor> tyll, good poin
17:22:02 <riecatnor> point*
17:23:11 <riecatnor> I did end up getting some help from work adventure to get the maps working, minimally I can show them how I have it set up on the admin dashboard
17:23:19 <riecatnor> them being the opensus folks :)
17:23:48 <thunderbirdtr> awesome
17:23:55 <riecatnor> also we have a "day of learning" this friday at red hat.. I was thinking about taking the day to look at the software Tiled and Piskel
17:24:17 <riecatnor> just to learn a bit more, but hands on
17:24:52 <riecatnor> ok peeps.. I think that is all for today
17:24:59 <thunderbirdtr> thank you riecatnor
17:25:01 <riecatnor> thanks for being here to discuss
17:25:06 <riecatnor> #endmeeting