f39-final-go_no_go-meeting
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#fedora-meeting: F39 Final Go/No-Go meeting

Meeting started by adamw at 17:00:41 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 17:00:52)
    1. nirik will represent release engineering (adamw, 17:03:12)
    2. sgallagh_ will represent fesco (adamw, 17:03:27)
    3. kparal will represent QA (adamw, 17:03:43)
    4. amoloney is busy ATM so I will run the meeting for now, we may hand off when she's back (adamw, 17:09:29)

  2. Purpose of this meeting (adamw, 17:11:20)
    1. Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F39 Final is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (adamw, 17:11:20)
    2. This is determined in a few ways: (adamw, 17:11:20)
    3. 1. Release candidate compose is available (adamw, 17:11:20)
    4. 2. No remaining blocker bugs (adamw, 17:11:21)
    5. 3. Test matrices are fully completed (adamw, 17:11:23)
    6. 4. Fedora CoreOS and IoT are ready (adamw, 17:11:25)

  3. Current status - RC (adamw, 17:11:30)
    1. we have, not just one, but *two* exciting RCs! (adamw, 17:11:49)
    2. RC-1.1 had no attempt to address the ARM blockers, RC-1.2 has a rollback of uboot-tools to an earlier version (adamw, 17:12:14)

  4. Current status - blockers (adamw, 17:12:29)
    1. https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/39/final/buglist (adamw, 17:12:29)

  5. (2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name (adamw, 17:14:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246385 (adamw, 17:14:13)
    2. Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 17:14:13)
    3. we're gonna consider the other blocker first as it's a clearer case, and come back to this (adamw, 17:22:13)

  6. (2246410) Failed media check immediately disappears on bare metal, shows a black screen instead (adamw, 17:22:25)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410 (adamw, 17:22:25)
    2. Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 17:22:26)
    3. https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/blob/master/modules.d/90dmsquash-live/dmsquash-live-root.sh#L69 (adamw, 17:27:34)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410#c3 (adamw, 17:33:38)

  7. (2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name (adamw, 17:37:26)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246385 (adamw, 17:37:26)
    2. Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 17:37:26)
    3. there is strong support for a criterion requiring that the final release image names do not indicate in any way that they are *not* final images (adamw, 17:46:55)
    4. AGREED: 2246385 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a blocker as a violation of the criterion we agreed in principle ought to exist, requiring Final image names not to indicate that they are not Final in any way (adamw, 17:52:55)

  8. Accepted blocker review (adamw, 17:54:26)
    1. 2241632 - haven't had time to check yet, but pretty sure this ought to be fixed in 1.2 (adamw, 17:54:39)

  9. (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 17:54:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 (adamw, 17:54:56)
    2. Accepted Blocker, shim, NEW (adamw, 17:54:56)
    3. AGREED: 2113005 is waived to Fedora 40 Beta under the "Difficult to fix blocker bugs" category - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Exceptional_cases (adamw, 17:57:11)

  10. (2241252) U-Boot fails to load kernel provided DTs from /boot (RPi4 boots to blank screen) (adamw, 17:58:31)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241252 (adamw, 17:58:31)
    2. Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:58:31)
    3. https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/4575 perhaps? (nirik, 18:32:10)
    4. nielsenb seems to have a problem on Workstation where his display goes blank shortly after gnome-initial-setup appears, but other testers have not been able to reproduce this (adamw, 18:41:33)
    5. we also discovered a bug in the fedora-arm-image-installer script which means it will not write Server images correctly. this can be corrected outside of the compose process (adamw, 18:44:38)

  11. (2244305) Fedora Server 39 does not boot on Raspberry Pi 4 (RPi4) from microSD card slot (adamw, 18:44:54)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305 (adamw, 18:44:54)
    2. Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:44:54)
    3. the original reporter's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305#c20 indicates that this is fixed (adamw, 18:47:58)

  12. (2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name (redux) (adamw, 18:52:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246385 (adamw, 18:52:09)
    2. Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 18:52:09)
    3. AGREED: there is no support for waiving this, so it is considered an unaddressed blocker (adamw, 19:00:39)

  13. (2246410) Failed media check immediately disappears on bare metal, shows a black screen instead (redux) (adamw, 19:00:53)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410 (adamw, 19:01:01)
    2. Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 19:01:02)
    3. there is some support for waiving this bug if it will allow us to ship this week, but we kinda need to work through the rest of the meeting first. let's table it (adamw, 19:05:44)

  14. new proposed blocker (adamw, 19:06:58)
  15. (2246428) No display on monitor on Server images on some Raspberry Pi variants due to bug in firmware DTB (adamw, 19:07:00)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246428 (adamw, 19:07:00)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1424 (adamw, 19:07:00)
    3. Proposed Blocker, uboot-tools, NEW (adamw, 19:07:00)
    4. AGREED: 2246428 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected on the basis that display is less important for the Server case, it doesn't affect all variants, and there is a workaround (nomodeset) (adamw, 19:21:06)

  16. Current status - test matrices (adamw, 19:22:12)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_39_Test_Results (adamw, 19:22:12)
    2. test coverage is mostly good but with a few gaps: missing real-world cloud testing, and macOS and Workstation system settings tests haven't been run since 20231014.n.0 nightly (adamw, 19:27:09)

  17. Fedora CoreOS / IoT check-in (adamw, 19:27:30)
    1. coreos and iot report that they are in good shape for release, we will pick an iot compose to ship once we've decided what to ship for the fedora compose and pushed things stable (adamw, 19:32:31)

  18. Go/No-Go decision (adamw, 19:32:48)
    1. we have two unaddressed accepted blockers, "(2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name" and "(2246410) Failed media check immediately disappears on bare metal, shows a black screen instead" (adamw, 19:34:01)
    2. AGREED: Fedora Linux 39 Final is NO-GO (adamw, 19:55:02)
    3. The next F39 Final Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday, 2023-11-02 at 1700 UTC (adamw, 19:55:21)
    4. F39 Final shifts to target date #3: Tuesday 2023-11-07 (adamw, 19:55:47)


Meeting ended at 19:59:19 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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