08:00:11 <suanand> #startmeeting i18n 08:00:11 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Apr 3 08:00:11 2023 UTC. 08:00:11 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 08:00:11 <zodbot> The chair is suanand. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 08:00:11 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 08:00:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 08:00:11 <suanand> #meetingname i18n 08:00:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 08:00:11 <suanand> #topic agenda and roll call 08:00:11 <suanand> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2023-04-03 08:00:21 <mfabian[m]> ☺ 08:00:27 <tagoh[m]> Hi 08:00:44 <SudipShil[m]> Hi 08:00:51 <pwu> hi 08:00:53 <twinkle> Hi 08:01:14 <suanand> #chair mfabian tagoh SudipShil pwu twinkle 08:01:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: SudipShil mfabian pwu suanand tagoh twinkle 08:01:19 <paragan> Hi 08:01:27 <suanand> #chair paragan 08:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: SudipShil mfabian paragan pwu suanand tagoh twinkle 08:01:40 <suanand> welcome to today's meeting. 08:01:49 <suanand> #topic agenda 08:01:49 <suanand> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N 08:01:49 <JensPetersen[m]> hello 08:01:50 <suanand> #info -- 1. Upcoming schedule -- 08:01:50 <suanand> #info -- 2. Issues -- 08:01:50 <suanand> #info -- 3. Open floor -- 08:02:18 <suanand> #chair JensPetersen fujiwara 08:02:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: JensPetersen SudipShil fujiwara mfabian paragan pwu suanand tagoh twinkle 08:02:30 <suanand> #topic Upcoming schedule 08:02:30 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-02-21 Bodhi updates-testing activation point 08:02:30 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-02-21 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline 08:02:31 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-02-21 Beta Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC) 08:02:31 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-03-14 Current Beta Target date 08:02:31 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-04-04 Final Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC) 08:02:33 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-04-18 Current Final Target date 08:02:37 <suanand> So, f38 final freeze starts tomorrow. 08:02:55 <suanand> anyone tried f38 beta? 08:03:26 <suanand> I guess everyone in test week :) 08:03:41 <JensPetersen[m]> I have tried some recent nightlies - Beta is already somewhat out of date : ) 08:03:52 <suanand> aha cool 08:04:01 <suanand> let's look at issues 08:04:07 <suanand> #topic Issues 08:04:14 <JensPetersen[m]> dl-fedora 38 ... 08:04:29 <suanand> #info #178: Fedora 38 i18n test day/week (pnemade) 08:04:29 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/178 08:04:44 <suanand> JensPetersen: nice! 08:04:52 <suanand> paragan: thank you for making the summary available. 08:04:52 <suanand> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-07_I18N_Test_Day#Fedora_38_Test_Day_Report 08:05:00 <suanand> paragan: anything you want to highlight? 08:05:21 <paragan> nothing specific 08:05:47 <suanand> thank you again pnemade++ 08:05:49 <paragan> but good to see number of community people tested i18n for F38 08:06:03 <JensPetersen[m]> I hope someone retested Bulgarian 08:06:04 <paragan> which included some KDE and Silverblue people 08:06:23 <JensPetersen[m]> It would be good to account for any unfiled issues that were brought up 08:06:31 <suanand> Yea.. that's great, looks healthy :) 08:06:52 <paragan> I have not tried Bulgarian but tried other language switching 08:06:57 <paragan> there is no crash at all 08:07:08 <suanand> nice! 08:07:39 <suanand> let's move to another issue 08:07:46 <suanand> #info #177: Fedora 36 Bug triaging (pnemade) 08:07:47 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/177 08:07:54 <suanand> #info Assignee wise count of the bugs as of today 08:07:54 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/177#comment-849675 08:08:03 <suanand> folks, please update your tickets accordingly. 08:08:03 <suanand> anyone has anything to discuss here? 08:09:55 * suanand hopes things are moving there, and we will get more updates in the coming weeks. 08:10:06 <suanand> #info #175: Tracker for Fedora 38 Changes (pnemade) 08:10:06 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/175 08:10:12 <suanand> #info Change: libpinyin 2.8 08:10:13 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/938 08:10:19 <suanand> pwu: would you like to discuss/mention anything? 08:11:42 <suanand> #info Change: Noto Fonts For More Languages 08:11:43 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/953 08:11:43 <suanand> tagoh: would you like to discuss/mention anything? 08:12:14 <pwu> suanand: I think libpinyin 2.8 change is okay. 08:12:27 <tagoh[m]> No, not particularly 08:12:35 <suanand> #info Change: Noto CJK Variable Fonts 08:12:36 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/959 08:12:36 <suanand> pwu: would you like to discuss/mention anything? 08:13:21 <pwu> suanand: I think we are still testing for this Change. 08:13:40 <suanand> great, thank you pwu and tagoh for the inputs! 08:14:07 <suanand> Anyone has anything to discuss in 'issues'? 08:14:37 <JensPetersen[m]> Seems there could be an issue with Libreoffice? 08:15:09 <pwu> Yes 08:15:16 <suanand> as in, if we can have some context 08:16:10 <paragan> is there any issue with CJK font selection in Libreoffice? 08:16:30 <JensPetersen[m]> Dunno if pwu is replying... 08:16:41 <JensPetersen[m]> He found an issue with pdf generation I believe 08:16:47 <pwu> The Chinese characters become closer to each other... 08:16:52 <JensPetersen[m]> ah 08:17:09 <suanand> aha 08:17:55 <suanand> pwu: how would you like to take this further? 08:18:07 <pwu> I think I will report one bug for it. 08:18:09 <tagoh[m]> Is it a variable font specific issue? what if installing non-variable fonts? 08:18:10 <JensPetersen[m]> Probably not a release blocker? but would be good to fix it sooner than later I think 08:18:30 <pwu> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183904 08:18:57 <pwu> This is one issue, I plan to open another issue for the Noto CJK VF. 08:19:43 <suanand> #info Chinese characters rendering overlaps when no printer configured 08:19:46 <suanand> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183904 08:19:53 <suanand> great thank you pwu++ 08:21:36 <JensPetersen[m]> Just a general reminder to everyone: please remember to CC i18n-bugs 08:21:52 <suanand> twinkle: if you can have some collaboration with pwu in speed testing this. 08:22:06 <JensPetersen[m]> (I just added it) 08:22:16 <pwu> JensPetersen[m]: thanks! 08:22:21 <twinkle> Sure Sundeep !! 08:23:09 <suanand> #topic Open Floor 08:23:12 <JensPetersen[m]> Maybe printer config relates to font embedding?? 08:23:21 <pwu> I dunno 08:25:08 <suanand> Anyone has anything to discuss in Open Floor? 08:25:12 <suanand> feel free. 08:25:26 <suanand> mfabian: how was your break? 08:25:47 <mfabian[m]> Great, it was a wonderful trip. Now I have to catch up with work. 08:25:56 <pwu> tagoh[m]: I think it is variable font specific issue... 08:26:08 <suanand> mfabian: gr8 08:27:24 <pwu> tagoh[m]: for the Chinese characters rendering closer... 08:27:45 <pwu> tagoh[m]: not report it yet. 08:27:48 <suanand> pwu: thanks for digging it deeper! 08:29:45 * suanand assumes people are discussing the variable font issue and hence some room. 08:29:46 <tagoh[m]> pwu: This is a fault in a font, we should reassign LO bug to Noto CJK. if this is an application bug which happened for missing VF support etc like we saw in Qt, I think we don't need a separate bug. 08:32:07 <pwu> tagoh[m]: Sorry, I think maybe LO maintainer could investigate that... 08:32:28 <tagoh[m]> Yes 08:33:24 <suanand> pwu, tagoh: you may want to update bugzilla, glad to see quick findings! 08:34:21 <pwu> Let me file the bug, and let LibreOffice maintainer to investigate that issue... 08:36:46 <suanand> tagoh and pwu: please continue your discussions, happy to follow up :) 08:37:01 <suanand> thank you everyone for coming today, see you in the next meeting on 2023-04-17. 08:37:02 <suanand> take care! 08:37:02 <suanand> #endmeeting