08:00:10 <sundeep[m]> #startmeeting i18n
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08:00:10 <sundeep[m]> #meetingname i18n
08:00:10 <sundeep[m]> #topic Roll call / Introductions
08:00:10 <sundeep[m]> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2023-02-20
08:00:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
08:00:21 <tagoh[m]> Hi
08:00:24 <SudipShil[m]> hi
08:00:38 <PengWu[m]> hi
08:01:07 <JensPetersen[m]> hi
08:01:07 <sundeep[m]> #chair paragan Sudip Shil Jens Petersen Peng Wu fujiwara
08:01:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jens Peng Petersen Shil Sudip Wu fujiwara paragan sundeep[m]
08:01:21 <sundeep[m]> welcome to today's meeting
08:02:02 <mfabian[m]> 😊
08:02:14 <paragan[m]> Hi
08:02:34 <sundeep[m]> #chair tagoh mfabian
08:02:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jens Peng Petersen Shil Sudip Wu fujiwara mfabian paragan sundeep[m] tagoh
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #topic Agenda
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #info -- 1. Upcoming schedule / Announcements / Urgencies --
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #info -- 2. Action items from previous meeting --
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #info -- 3. Tickets --
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #info -- 4. Community / Events --
08:02:55 <sundeep[m]> #info -- 5. Open floor / Ideas / Proposals --
08:03:27 <sundeep[m]> #topic Upcoming schedule / Announcements / Urgencies... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/ea3a94ba98a501ef708d45d329d212a655ed6a44>)
08:03:57 <sundeep[m]> looks f38 branching has been done: please ensure your packages build.
08:03:57 <sundeep[m]> bodhi activation and beta freeze is planned tomorrow.
08:04:26 <sundeep[m]> #topic Action items from previous meeting
08:04:34 * sundeep[m] have written an initial proposal draft
08:04:45 <sundeep[m]> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-docs-i18n-space
08:05:14 <sundeep[m]> we may have voting later in the meeting ..
08:05:17 <JensPetersen[m]> Yes tomorrow is a very important date
08:05:39 <sundeep[m]> Yep - Let's see Issues ...
08:05:40 <sundeep[m]> #topic Issues
08:05:46 <sundeep[m]> #info #178:  Fedora 38 i18n test day/week (pnemade)
08:05:46 <sundeep[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/178
08:06:06 <sundeep[m]> paragan: thank you for updating Test Day pages. anything to add/discuss?
08:06:06 <sundeep[m]> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-07_I18N_TestdayApp_Metadata
08:07:02 <sundeep[m]> paragan: anything?
08:07:02 <paragan[m]> yes initial testday setup has been done
08:07:08 <paragan[m]> please review if anything need to be updated in wiki pages
08:07:23 <paragan[m]> or testcases on results page
08:07:34 <sundeep[m]> sure, thanks :)
08:07:51 <sundeep[m]> #info #177: Fedora 36 Bug triaging (pnemade)
08:07:51 <sundeep[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/177
08:08:00 <sundeep[m]> let's take a look at bugs with high severity
08:08:08 <sundeep[m]> #info update/install/reinstall of ibus - ibus scriplet - restart gnome shell session
08:08:09 <sundeep[m]> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2097613
08:08:27 <sundeep[m]> thanks fujiwara  and Jens Petersen  for your inputs.
08:08:45 <sundeep[m]> Is this bug reported upstream?
08:09:14 <sundeep[m]> fujiwara: ping
08:09:14 <zodbot> sundeep[m]: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
08:09:18 <JensPetersen[m]> Ah I wanted to reconfirm the testday date
08:09:47 <sundeep[m]> paragan: could you, please
08:10:31 <sundeep[m]> * fujiwara: ping, if you can have any/some inputs
08:11:29 <JensPetersen[m]> Some of us might be away that week?
08:11:29 <fujiwara[m]> The reporter said gnome-shell crashed but not ibus.
08:11:55 <sundeep[m]> fujiwara: thanks
08:13:00 <JensPetersen[m]> Anyone tried to reproduce that?
08:13:22 * sundeep[m] thinks to move with the agenda, while waiting for testday date discussions ..
08:13:59 <paragan[m]> Jens Petersen: What is the issue with testday date?
08:14:10 <paragan[m]> we decided for 7th March week right?
08:14:46 <sundeep[m]> Yep - good to test that again and report upstream, if bug persists.
08:15:16 <sundeep[m]> #info Postscript standard symbol font is not looked up correctly
08:15:16 <sundeep[m]> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129399
08:15:55 <sundeep[m]> tagoh: thank you for pushing it further, anything you want to highlight?
08:16:35 <tagoh[m]> may need to try the attached PS file to see.
08:16:41 <JensPetersen[m]> paragan: I was worrying about Holi etc, but if sufficient people available it is okay I guess
08:16:51 <sundeep[m]> tagoh: okay
08:17:23 <paragan[m]> Jens Petersen: but that is only 1 day holiday.
08:17:38 <sundeep[m]> #info ibus input not working for qt5 under Wayland
08:17:38 <sundeep[m]> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1832086
08:17:42 <JensPetersen[m]> Some people might take more holiday?
08:18:17 <sundeep[m]> mfabian: thank you for retaking a look and a positive comment, Jens Petersen : maybe you want to test it again?
08:18:39 <paragan[m]> yeah but they can do it later on
08:18:39 <JensPetersen[m]> Okay
08:18:39 <mfabian[m]> I will probably be away already on PTO on March 7th.
08:18:48 <JensPetersen[m]> sundeep: yes
08:18:50 <paragan[m]> we are organizing testweek right?
08:18:58 <JensPetersen[m]> yep
08:19:07 <paragan[m]> why suddenly resistant for testweek with specific date?
08:19:26 <JensPetersen[m]> Not sudden, just finally checking now :)
08:19:59 <fujiwara[m]> I've been still working on the Plasma Wayland issues.
08:20:05 <paragan[m]> finally???
08:20:14 <sundeep[m]> fujiwara: great thank you!
08:20:42 <sundeep[m]> #info #175: Tracker for Fedora 38 Changes (pnemade)
08:20:42 <sundeep[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/175
08:21:01 <paragan[m]> Okay someone please propose new dates
08:21:03 <sundeep[m]> all three changes are in good state.
08:21:03 <sundeep[m]> tagoh  and Peng Wu : anything you want to mention?
08:21:05 <paragan[m]> and organize it
08:21:57 <tagoh[m]> My Change has been completed. ready to test.
08:22:09 <JensPetersen[m]> * Not sudden, just doing final checking now :)
08:22:26 <JensPetersen[m]> * Not sudden, just doing final check now :)
08:22:31 <sundeep[m]> paragan and Jens Petersen : we may keep the current dates for test day, and can we extend that by 1-2 days following week?
08:22:45 <PengWu[m]> My changes are also ready I think.
08:22:51 <sundeep[m]> tagoh: thank you!
08:22:59 <sundeep[m]> Peng Wu: cool
08:24:12 <sundeep[m]> #info #163: create a wiki page table of Emoji input support across desktop/toolkits (petersen)
08:24:12 <sundeep[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/163
08:24:12 <sundeep[m]> #info #162: track Fonts component bugs (petersen)
08:24:12 <sundeep[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/162
08:24:12 <sundeep[m]> #info #158: State of i18n and l10n in Workstation (petersen)
08:24:12 <sundeep[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/158
08:24:18 <JensPetersen[m]> tagoh: I wanted to suggest making the Change name even more specific - ie actually mentioning the language names explicitly in the Change name, how do you think?
08:25:04 <tagoh[m]> Jens Petersen: I updated "More" to "Two" though, do you want to make it more specific?
08:25:42 <JensPetersen[m]> Might be better? I forget how long the names are though
08:26:07 <JensPetersen[m]> Anyway just a thought that had been crossing my mind - forgot to mention it before
08:26:29 <sundeep[m]> Jens Petersen: anything to discuss in #163, #162 and/or #158 ?
08:26:40 <JensPetersen[m]> I think it would be more transparent that's all
08:27:08 <JensPetersen[m]> sundeep: sadly not ;-(
08:27:37 <sundeep[m]> no worries, hoping for more inputs in coming weeks
08:27:42 <JensPetersen[m]> Yes
08:27:56 <sundeep[m]> anything more to discuss in issues?
08:29:41 <sundeep[m]> paragan: what would be end date of i18n test week, 14th march? as it starts from 7th?
08:30:53 <paragan[m]> I will change end date to 16th march to make it 10 day test event
08:31:22 <JensPetersen[m]> Sounds good
08:31:22 <sundeep[m]> paragan: much helpful, great, thank you :)
08:31:37 <sundeep[m]> #topic Community / Events
08:31:43 <sundeep[m]> folks we have few upcoming events..
08:31:50 <sundeep[m]> #info Linux App Summit
08:31:50 <sundeep[m]> #link https://linuxappsummit.org/
08:31:50 <sundeep[m]> April 21-23, 2023 | Brno, Czech Republic
08:32:16 <sundeep[m]> # Shell & Display Next hackfest
08:32:16 <sundeep[m]> # https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/ShellDisplayNext2023
08:32:16 <sundeep[m]> Brno, 24-26 April inclusive
08:32:16 <sundeep[m]> Relevant GNOME team: Shell & mutter, possibly Design.
08:32:46 <sundeep[m]> * #info Shell & Display Next hackfest
08:32:46 <sundeep[m]> #link https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/ShellDisplayNext2023
08:32:46 <sundeep[m]> Brno, 24-26 April inclusive
08:32:46 <sundeep[m]> Relevant GNOME team: Shell & mutter, possibly Design.
08:32:57 <sundeep[m]> and finally DevConf ..
08:33:05 <sundeep[m]> #info DevConf.CZ
08:33:06 <sundeep[m]> #link https://www.devconf.info/cz/
08:33:06 <sundeep[m]> June 16-18, 2023 | Brno, Czech Republic
08:33:06 <sundeep[m]> CFP is open now, until March 10, 2023.
08:33:25 <sundeep[m]> mfabian
08:33:38 <sundeep[m]> Floks, please submit talks, and plan accordingly.
08:33:44 <JensPetersen[m]> Flock may be in August
08:33:49 <sundeep[m]> aha
08:34:43 <sundeep[m]> #topic Open floor / Ideas / Proposals
08:34:44 <sundeep[m]> let's have voting on proposals.
08:35:00 <sundeep[m]> #chair
08:35:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jens Peng Petersen Shil Sudip Wu fujiwara mfabian paragan sundeep[m] tagoh
08:35:00 <sundeep[m]> Please respond with -1, 0, +1
08:35:07 <sundeep[m]> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-docs-i18n-space
08:35:07 <sundeep[m]> #PROPOSED build i18n presence at docs.fedoraproject.org
08:35:19 * sundeep[m] waiting for votes
08:36:07 <sundeep[m]> Or, should we wait for more details?
08:38:20 <sundeep[m]> Another approach would be to create a i18n issue and evaluate there!
08:38:39 <tagoh[m]> I think the idea is very nice. though we may need to think about what a sort of contents we want to add there too?
08:38:50 <sundeep[m]> tagoh: agree
08:39:42 <fujiwara[m]> Is it different from our existent contents? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Internationalization
08:40:24 <sundeep[m]> basically antora based, helping contributors to get started
08:41:09 <sundeep[m]> #action suanand to work on details of the proposal.
08:41:23 <sundeep[m]> thank you all for coming today, the next meeting on 6th Mar 2023.
08:41:37 * sundeep[m] is on leave that day, and requesting paragan  to chair the meeting.
08:41:53 <paragan[m]> Sure will chair next meeting
08:42:02 <sundeep[m]> paragan: cool, thanks!
08:42:49 <fujiwara[m]> Probably I will release new versions for f38 today.
08:43:12 <sundeep[m]> fujiwara: great, cool, thank you!
08:43:16 <sundeep[m]> anyone has anything to bring up?
08:43:55 <JensPetersen[m]> We are really moving into the testing phase now
08:44:27 <JensPetersen[m]> I will be away next time too
08:44:46 <sundeep[m]> Yes, okay ..
08:44:53 <sundeep[m]> take care!
08:44:53 <sundeep[m]> #endmeeting