05:30:42 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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05:30:42 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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05:30:42 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:42 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2022-11-28
05:30:57 <tagoh[m]> hi
05:31:10 <pwu> hi
05:31:34 <JensPetersen[m]> hi
05:31:34 <suanand> hello
05:32:31 <paragan> Hi all
05:32:43 <paragan> #chair tagoh[m] pwu JensPetersen[m] suanand
05:32:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: JensPetersen[m] paragan pwu suanand tagoh[m]
05:33:00 <paragan> let's start this meeting
05:33:08 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:33:34 <paragan> for the next month the milestones for F38 are
05:33:36 <paragan> #info Wed 2022-12-21 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring infrastructure changes)
05:33:36 <paragan> #info Tue 2022-12-27 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)
05:33:36 <paragan> #info Tue 2022-12-27 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
05:33:36 <paragan> #
05:34:04 <JensPetersen[m]> Just a month away
05:34:24 <paragan> make sure if you got any change to submit then please do so immediately
05:34:57 <JensPetersen[m]> Yes, we really need them ready before the next meeting
05:36:12 <fujiwara> hi
05:36:27 <paragan> #chair fujiwara
05:36:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: JensPetersen[m] fujiwara paragan pwu suanand tagoh[m]
05:36:39 <paragan> anything else to discuss for this topic?
05:37:49 <paragan> okay lets move to next topic
05:37:57 <paragan> #topic Issues
05:38:25 <paragan> we will discuss some old tickets today as its fresh start of Fedora 38 development cycle
05:38:50 <paragan> #info #159: use weak deps to install ibus immodules etc (petersen)
05:38:50 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/159
05:39:16 <JensPetersen[m]> ah
05:39:50 <JensPetersen[m]> I think gtk3 is still pending on me
05:40:01 <JensPetersen[m]> Let me bump it in my todo list
05:40:31 <paragan> Okay
05:40:35 <paragan> thanks for the update
05:42:01 <paragan> moving to next issue
05:42:11 <paragan> #info #162: track Fonts component bugs (petersen)
05:42:11 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/162
05:42:35 <paragan> I am interested to know, how to handle this ticket
05:42:54 <paragan> should we check this ticket every meeting?
05:44:54 <tagoh[m]> that sounds good to me. or should we open  a ticket for every releases? if we want to close it per milestones?
05:44:54 <JensPetersen[m]> I guess we could add it to the agenda if there are (new/old) bugs to discuss
05:45:28 <tagoh[m]> Aha.
05:46:12 <paragan> who will decide it? Chairperson?
05:46:16 <JensPetersen[m]> (or remove it if there aren't)
05:46:46 <JensPetersen[m]> Ideally yes
05:47:03 <paragan> Ok. Let me add a comment there about this discussion.
05:47:04 <JensPetersen[m]> Though others could also add meeting tag say
05:48:03 <paragan> Thanks
05:48:32 <paragan> we need to check if meeting tag is supported by agenda script
05:48:54 <paragan> if not manually agenda ticket need to be added
05:49:16 <tagoh[m]> let me check for that.
05:50:16 <JensPetersen[m]> I am wondering if it would make sense to move the libertine bug to linux-libertine-fonts?
05:50:33 <JensPetersen[m]> I mean the Libertinus rfe
05:51:12 <JensPetersen[m]> ah it was moved from there, nvm
05:52:05 <tagoh[m]> Yes
05:53:51 <JensPetersen[m]> Seems only a couple of games in Fedora pull it in... or to distribution?
05:54:04 <JensPetersen[m]> (I mean pull in libertine)
05:54:42 <JensPetersen[m]> Well we also leave it here but dunno who wants to package
05:56:36 <paragan> anything more to discuss here?
05:57:06 <JensPetersen[m]> * Well we could also leave
05:58:48 <paragan> moving on
05:59:06 <paragan> #info #163: create a wiki page table of Emoji input support across desktop/toolkits (petersen)
05:59:07 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/163
06:00:10 <paragan> any update on this ?
06:01:46 <JensPetersen[m]> Right, basic page is there but some more details should be added about any exceptions and problem cases
06:02:12 <JensPetersen[m]> Need to trawl through our previous testing results
06:03:11 <paragan> Okay
06:03:17 <paragan> Thanks for this update.
06:03:49 <JensPetersen[m]> Anyway particular suggestions for missing info that should be added first?
06:05:43 <paragan> Ok
06:05:53 <JensPetersen[m]> s/Anyway/Any/
06:07:38 <paragan> let's check on this later on
06:07:50 <paragan> next issue
06:07:53 <paragan> #info #166: Review new fonts table (tagoh)
06:07:53 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/166
06:09:01 <tagoh[m]> No particular updates on it. fontquery needs to be updated for providing correct test cases.
06:10:39 <paragan> can you add comment on what is remaining there?
06:10:51 <tagoh[m]> Sure. will do.
06:10:57 <paragan> Thank you.
06:11:12 <paragan> moving to next issue
06:11:23 <paragan> #info #168: Fedora 35 Bug triaging (pnemade)
06:11:23 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/168
06:12:30 <paragan> 29 bugs remaining and there are 15 days now to look into them.
06:14:43 <paragan> moving to next issue
06:15:21 <JensPetersen[m]> Looks like some can be bumped to 36+
06:17:33 <paragan> #info #174: Noto package splitting (tagoh)
06:17:33 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/174
06:18:05 <tagoh[m]> Not yet started.
06:18:51 <tagoh[m]> will submit Change as a first step!
06:19:30 <JensPetersen[m]> tagoh: I was wondering if it is good idea to confirm with upstream about individual packaging?
06:19:44 <JensPetersen[m]> I mean since it is a huge task
06:20:46 <tagoh[m]> Sorry, what to ask?
06:21:14 <JensPetersen[m]> That they agree it makes sense to package the fonts individually
06:22:20 <JensPetersen[m]> (I mean I think it does, but if later they should have different plans for some reason, it would be quite bad I think)
06:24:21 <tagoh[m]> Hm, even though they already have some releases on some separate projects? but yeah, if they are going to make more changes on projects, that may affects right.
06:24:50 <JensPetersen[m]> Ya just thought it would not hurt to check this point
06:25:35 <tagoh[m]> Though they don't even know the future of their projects...
06:26:19 <JensPetersen[m]> Though it looks like they plan to separate them all... it is more a releng type question
06:26:52 <JensPetersen[m]> Anyway it had been in my mind for some time, so just mentioning the idea now
06:27:06 <tagoh[m]> Okay, let me ask.
06:27:16 <JensPetersen[m]> Okay thanks
06:28:59 <paragan> Thanks
06:29:06 <paragan> next issue
06:29:15 <paragan> #info #175: Tracker for Fedora 38 Changes (pnemade)
06:29:15 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/175
06:29:45 <paragan> I have created this issue to track any of our F38 Change submission
06:30:07 <paragan> if anyone plans to submit Change please add link of it in this issue.
06:31:09 <paragan> moving to next issue
06:31:18 <paragan> #info #176: Find meeting chairperson for Fedora 38 release (pnemade)
06:31:18 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/176
06:31:23 <paragan> #chair
06:31:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: JensPetersen[m] fujiwara paragan pwu suanand tagoh[m]
06:31:50 <paragan> Can we nominate someone as a chairperson for F38?
06:32:03 * suanand raises his hand to chair for the next release
06:32:13 <paragan> aha nice
06:32:24 <suanand> and need help for the transition ..
06:32:41 <paragan> Thanks suanand for stepping in :)
06:32:46 <paragan> sure will help you
06:32:54 <suanand> thanks paragan
06:33:13 <paragan> #info suanand will be chairperson for Fedora 38 release cycle
06:34:04 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:34:11 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:34:15 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:37:13 <paragan> I guess nothing here to discuss
06:37:25 <paragan> Thanks for participating in this meeting
06:37:39 <paragan> #endmeeting