17:00:22 <bcotton> #startmeeting F37 Beta Go/No-Go meeting
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17:00:35 <bcotton> c'mon, bridge
17:00:55 <bcotton> #topic Roll Call
17:00:57 <adamw> ahoyhoy
17:01:00 <bcotton> alright, folks, who is here
17:01:01 <adamw> .hello adamwill
17:01:01 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
17:01:19 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
17:01:20 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com>
17:01:22 <geraldosimiao> .hello geraldosimiao
17:01:23 <zodbot> geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'Geraldo S. Simião Kutz' <geraldo.simiao.kutz@gmail.com>
17:01:28 <jednorozec> .hello humaton
17:01:30 <zodbot> jednorozec: humaton 'Tomáš Hrčka' <thrcka@redhat.com>
17:02:50 <nirik> morning
17:03:40 <bcotton> welcome, one and all
17:03:49 <bcotton> #topic Purpose of this meeting
17:03:49 <bcotton> #info Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F37 Beta is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria.
17:03:49 <bcotton> #info This is determined in a few ways:
17:03:58 <bcotton> #info 1. No remaining blocker bugs
17:03:58 <bcotton> #info 2. Release candidate compose is available
17:03:59 <bcotton> #info 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed
17:04:05 * TheExorcist[m] is here
17:04:10 <bcotton> #topic Current status - blockers
17:04:11 <bcotton> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist
17:04:25 <bcotton> #info 1 Proposed Blockers
17:04:25 <bcotton> #info 1 Accepted Blockers
17:04:34 <bcotton> let's look at the accepted blocker first
17:04:42 <bcotton> #topic (2124127) Regression booting Fedora on rockchip devices installed on PCIe NVME drives
17:04:42 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124127
17:04:42 <bcotton> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/894
17:04:42 <bcotton> #info Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, ON_QA
17:04:57 <TheExorcist[m]> .hello funnelfiasco
17:04:58 <zodbot> TheExorcist[m]: Sorry, but user 'funnelfiasco' does not exist
17:05:40 <geraldosimiao> Anyone tested the fix for this bug?
17:05:48 <bcotton> paging pbrobinson
17:05:58 <adamw> the update was definitely in the beta candidate
17:06:04 <adamw> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/37/Fedora-37-20220906.0/compose/Everything/aarch64/os/Packages/u/
17:06:56 <bcotton> coremodule or pwhalen: do you have any insight on this one?
17:06:56 <adamw> actually. uh.
17:06:57 <adamw> i see an issue here.
17:07:03 <bcotton> uh oh
17:07:12 <adamw> we pulled uboot-tools-2022.10-0.5.rc4.fc37 into the candidate
17:07:25 <adamw> pbrobinson: then later edited the update to have a -6.rc4.fc37 build
17:07:35 <adamw> he didn't tell me anything about that, though. nirik did he mention it to you?
17:07:36 <nirik> oof
17:07:45 <nirik> not that I recall.
17:08:00 <adamw> the changelog says "Update SMBIOS patch", which is vague.
17:08:39 <bcotton> so we don't know if we have an actual fix in the RC?
17:08:49 <adamw> well, we have an unclear situation
17:09:01 <adamw> i think this change is not related to the blocker, but i'm just checking in more detail
17:09:14 <nirik> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/uboot-tools/c/3b11dffa4fec507c63605a81cda9ab88a5e3ac79?branch=rawhide
17:09:32 <nirik> yeah, I think from a super quick reading it's not related... but... not sure.
17:09:50 <pwhalen> Sorry, I haven't tested the fix, nor do I have an nvme to test with
17:10:34 <adamw> so, `smbios-test-dmi.patch` was added in the 0.5 build with no indication of what it's for
17:10:37 <pwhalen> afaik, the newer uboot included an unrelated fix, not the blocker
17:10:54 <adamw> in 0.6 it was rewritten as `smbios-Simplify-reporting-of-unknown-values.patch`, again with no clear indication of what it's for
17:12:13 <adamw> so, i guess on the whole, we can say this is probably addressed in the candidate
17:12:23 <adamw> but we need to find a way to push 0.5 stable if we're gonna ship it.
17:12:54 <bcotton> it'd be nice to have more confidence than "probably", too
17:13:30 <adamw> it would, but what are ya gonna do
17:13:39 <adamw> unless anyone has a pbrobinson summoner
17:13:48 <adamw> does he have a signal we can project on the sky
17:14:02 * bcotton whispers "raspberry pi" repeatedly
17:14:44 <bcotton> nirik, how bananas is "a way to push 0.5 stable"?
17:14:51 <bcotton> or also jednorozec
17:15:31 <nirik> I am sure we can do it somehow. ;)
17:16:18 <bcotton> i believe in you
17:16:29 <nirik> it was obsoleted... so we can poke the db, or just bypass bodhi and tag it directly in.
17:16:58 <nirik> (but then bodhi and reality will not match)
17:16:59 <bcotton> so... any objections to #agreed We believe 2124127 is sufficiently fixed for the Beta release
17:17:09 <adamw> i'm okay with that.
17:17:51 <bcotton> we can bend reality to our will
17:17:51 <adamw> peter did tell me he'd tested the actual fix, i don't think he did it by testing a beta 1.5 image, but still.
17:18:04 <Southern_Gentlem> +1
17:18:21 <nirik> yeah, +1
17:18:54 <bcotton> #agreed We believe 2124127 is sufficiently fixed for the Beta release
17:19:29 <geraldosimiao> Ack
17:19:31 <bcotton> #action RelEng to ensure  uboot-tools-2022.10-0.5.rc4.fc37 reaches the stable repos
17:20:32 <smooge> i tried to ping peter
17:21:00 <bcotton> #topic (2124986) upowerd fail to initialize in kernel 5.19 printing a trace in kernel log
17:21:00 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124986
17:21:00 <bcotton> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/901
17:21:00 <bcotton> #info Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW
17:21:00 <bcotton> #info Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-3) (-bcotton, -adamwill, -geraldosimiao)
17:21:33 <adamw> so this obviously sucks if you're trying to use lenovo's thunderbolt docks, but doesn't really seem beta blocking to me
17:21:39 <adamw> we can CommonBugs it
17:21:53 <Southern_Gentlem> -1 bb +1 common
17:22:21 <nirik> yeah. agreed
17:22:23 <geraldosimiao> Or fix it to final release 😬
17:22:41 <adamw> well, both. blockerbugs isn't just for final!
17:22:44 <adamw> sigh
17:22:46 <adamw> commonbugs, i mean
17:22:54 <Southern_Gentlem> we cant support every hardware combo ootb
17:22:59 <pbrobinson> bcotton: adamw: the -5 build has the fix, the -6 has a different fix which isn't critical for beta
17:23:18 <bcotton> pbrobinson++
17:23:18 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for pbrobinson changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:23:25 <geraldosimiao> 🎉
17:23:36 <adamw> pbrobinson: thanks.
17:24:00 <pbrobinson> bcotton: whispers like that will more than likely make me run away ;-)
17:24:36 <bcotton> pbrobinson: if you run far enough, you circle back around to here :-)
17:24:41 <pbrobinson> nirik: adamw: want me to edit the bodhi, add the old one back and then when it goes stable do another update with the new one?
17:25:16 <bcotton> proposed #agreed 2124986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) CommonBugs - This does not violate any Basic or Beta release criteria.
17:25:28 <geraldosimiao> Ack
17:25:30 <adamw> pbrobinson: if we *can* do that, yeah. i'm not entirely sure you can run it backwards.
17:25:49 <adamw> patch - CommonBugs doesn't go there, in this highly standardized data format
17:26:36 <adamw> proposed $agreed 2124986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this does not violate any Basic or Beta release criteria. As it is annoying if you're trying to use the affected hardware, we will mention it in CommonBugs.
17:26:42 <adamw> with extra dollar sign
17:27:15 * bcotton merges the patch
17:27:36 <nirik> pbrobinson: you can't. ;(
17:27:37 <pbrobinson> adamw: want me to try>
17:27:39 <pbrobinson> ah
17:27:40 <nirik> ack
17:28:17 <Southern_Gentlem> ack
17:28:19 <bcotton> #agreed 2124986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this does not violate any Basic or Beta release criteria. As it is annoying if you're trying to use the affected hardware, we will mention it in CommonBugs.
17:28:20 <geraldosimiao> Ack
17:28:23 <nirik> bodhi won't let you remove all builds from a update, so you can't remove the old one from the old update or the new one from the new update...
17:28:44 <bcotton> #topic Current status - blockers
17:29:01 <bcotton> #info All accepted blockers are fixed
17:29:20 <adamw> nirik: i suppose, as a *really* awful workaround, you could add some other package to the update, remove the problem one, add the fix, then remove the other package again.
17:29:26 <adamw> excuse me while i throw up in my mouth a little bit.
17:29:33 <bcotton> #topic Current status - RC
17:29:39 <adamw> we've got one!
17:30:00 <bcotton> anything missing from the RC?
17:31:00 <nirik> one small thing
17:31:12 <nirik> The server kvm image just barely missed the rc...
17:31:21 <nirik> but it's not release blocking.
17:31:41 <bcotton> #info The (non-blocking) Server kvm image is not in RC 1.5
17:31:48 <bcotton> alas!
17:32:01 <adamw> woe is us
17:32:05 <Southern_Gentlem> ship it fast
17:32:09 <adamw> why did it miss it? i thought we were trying to get it in? did we miss a bit?
17:33:54 <nirik> yes, I failed to add the fake 'fedora-server-KVM' 'package' in koji...
17:34:10 <nirik> so it built, but then failed because it wasn't a 'package'
17:34:35 <adamw> ah, d'oh.
17:35:47 <adamw> ah well.
17:36:47 <nirik> yep. it's in nightlys now...
17:36:57 <nirik> anyhow, just wanted to note it, thats all
17:36:58 <bcotton> computers!
17:37:07 <bcotton> any other questions or comments re: rc1.5?
17:38:02 <Southern_Gentlem> ship it, ship it, ship it
17:38:43 <bcotton> #topic Current status - test matrices
17:38:43 <bcotton> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_37_Test_Results
17:40:23 <adamw> so we're mostly okay. we're missing SAS and hardware RAID; I don't have an hw raid controller any more i don't think, so i can't do it
17:40:43 <adamw> we're missing a few boxes for aarch64. i'm re-running some openqa tests that should fill out some of them.
17:41:11 <adamw> has anyone done a server DVD or netinst install on aarch64 real hardware from a USB stick? we're missing that result.
17:42:23 <geraldosimiao> Not me, I don't have that hardware.
17:44:18 <bcotton> #info Test coverage is okay except SAS, hardware RAID, and server DVD/netinst on aarch64 hardware from USB
17:45:02 <adamw> also missing desktop login and real hardware printing on aarch64, but they work on x86_64 and no reason to imagine they'd be busted on aarch64 specifically
17:45:07 <adamw> i dunno why we don't run desktop_login on aarch64 on openQA, actually. might just be an oversight.
17:47:59 <bcotton> anything else on the test coverage?
17:49:12 <adamw> no. it'd be good if we had the missing bits, but...if we don't have the hardware for storage tests we don't have it, and the server image tests did work on aarch64 in qemu.
17:49:49 <bcotton> alrighty then
17:50:01 <bcotton> it's that time
17:50:01 <bcotton> #topic Go/No-Go decision
17:50:01 <bcotton> I will poll each team. Please reply “go” or “no-go”
17:50:02 <bcotton> FESCo?
17:50:09 <adamw> okay, somebody has to have a blocker they're hiding, right?
17:50:09 <nirik> go please
17:50:09 <adamw> we can't make the early target date. this is scary.
17:50:34 <Southern_Gentlem> adamw, it will be the first in a LOOONG time
17:50:51 <bcotton> right? I might actually take some PTO before Final Freeze :-)
17:50:52 <nirik> 2 releases? not that long...
17:51:43 <bcotton> RelEng?
17:52:23 <jednorozec> go
17:53:23 * bcotton assumes nirik is go with both hats :-)
17:53:24 <bcotton> QA?
17:53:38 <nirik> yes, go with all the hats. :)
17:53:49 <adamw> er...i guess go?
17:53:53 <geraldosimiao> Go yes
17:54:00 <bcotton> i love how enthusiastic adamw is
17:54:08 <geraldosimiao> 😂
17:54:17 <bcotton> #agreed Fedora Linux 37 Beta is GO
17:54:22 <bcotton> #info Fedora Linux 37 Beta will release on the early target date (2022-09-13)
17:54:22 * adamw still waiting for shoes to drop
17:54:22 <bcotton> #info F37 Final freeze begins on Tuesday 2022-10-04
17:54:32 <nirik> he's a empty spectre, robbed of will and soul by the requirement that qa say 'go' :)
17:54:39 <bcotton> #action bcotton to announce decision
17:54:47 <bcotton> sorry, it's too late for shoes. i've already #agreed the minutes
17:54:51 <bcotton> #topic Open floor
17:54:52 <bcotton> Anything else we need to discuss before closing?
17:55:06 <Southern_Gentlem> dont break it before final
17:57:12 <bcotton> good thing I wrote the release announcement this morning :-)
17:57:12 <bcotton> okay, well it sounds like we're done here
17:57:33 <bcotton> and i have an email to send
17:57:34 <bcotton> thanks, everyone!
17:57:44 <geraldosimiao> 🎉🎉
17:57:53 <bcotton> #endmeeting