05:31:44 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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05:31:44 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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05:31:44 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:31:55 * mfabian__ ☺
05:31:56 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2022-04-18
05:31:56 <suanand> hello
05:31:59 <tagoh[m]1> Hi
05:33:07 <pwu_> hello
05:33:27 <paragan> Hi all
05:33:39 <bigmagicstick23c> Hi Girl's
05:33:41 <paragan> #chair mfabian__ suanand tagoh[m]1 pwu_
05:33:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: mfabian__ paragan pwu_ suanand tagoh[m]1
05:34:40 <paragan[m]> let's start
05:34:52 <paragan[m]> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:35:53 <paragan[m]> #info 2022-04-05 Final Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)
05:35:53 <paragan[m]> #info 2022-04-19 Early Final Target date
05:36:32 <paragan[m]> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/36/final/buglist
05:36:42 <juhp[m]> This week is already no-go
05:37:16 <paragan[m]> oh so target date will be next week then
05:37:31 <juhp[m]> Ya next target
05:37:43 <paragan[m]> Ok
05:37:55 <paragan[m]> anything to discuss here?
05:38:38 <paragan[m]> if not let's move to next topic
05:39:14 <paragan[m]> #topic Issues
05:39:26 <paragan[m]> #info #144: Fedora 34 Bug triaging  (prigupta)
05:39:26 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/144
05:40:22 <paragan[m]> 41 bugs remaining to be triaged
05:41:25 <paragan[m]> anything to discuss here? else we can move to next issue
05:42:40 <paragan[m]> #info #151: F36 Change: DefaultToNotoFonts (tagoh)
05:42:40 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/151
05:42:57 <paragan[m]> anything remaining here to be fixed or added?
05:43:18 <tagoh[m]1> As I updated the ticket, waiting for reviewing PR for comps now.
05:43:35 <tagoh[m]1> that should be the last task for that.
05:43:45 <tagoh[m]1> once it is done, we can close it I think.
05:44:30 <paragan[m]> documentation completed?
05:44:54 <tagoh[m]1> I've provided some information on the doc ticket.
05:45:10 <paragan[m]> Thanks
05:45:19 <tagoh[m]1> apparently not yet  started though
05:45:42 <paragan[m]> Okay
05:45:48 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
05:45:57 <paragan[m]> #info #152: F36 Change: Hunspell_dictionary_dir_change (pnemade)
05:45:57 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/152
05:46:46 <paragan[m]> I think there are no bugs remaining for this Change implementation. I think 1 or 2 PR are still pending.
05:46:56 <paragan[m]> documentation completed
05:47:01 <juhp[m]> Can we not build them?
05:47:55 <paragan[m]> we can
05:47:59 <paragan[m]> I will see
05:48:13 <paragan[m]> I think thunderbird PR asked me to rebase
05:49:25 <juhp[m]> Okay, thanks
05:49:27 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
05:49:28 <paragan[m]> #info #153: F36 Change: MalayalamDefaultFontsUpdate (pnemade)
05:49:28 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/153
05:49:35 <paragan[m]> I was waiting for hunspell doc PR to be merged. Now I will submit this Change docs beat.
05:49:45 <paragan[m]> there are no bugs remaining for this Change
05:50:49 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
05:50:59 <paragan[m]> #info #154: F36 Change: Ibus_table_cangjie_default_for_zh_hk (mfabian)
05:50:59 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/154
05:51:12 <paragan[m]> any bugs/implementation remaining for this Change?
05:51:22 <paragan[m]> has documentation also completed?
05:54:04 <paragan> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/796 is the release notes tracker for this Change
05:54:41 <paragan> Ok let's check with mfabian__ later on
05:54:54 <paragan> moving to next issue
05:55:19 <paragan> #info #156: Docs Beats for Fedora 36 (pnemade)
05:55:19 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/156
05:55:39 <paragan> we have already discussed this in individual Change issues
05:55:53 <paragan> still if we have something to add we can think on adding in release notes
05:56:38 <paragan> moving on to next issue
05:56:54 <paragan> #info #157: KDE spin missing ibus IMEs and imsettings (petersen)
05:56:54 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/157
05:57:05 <paragan> any update here?
05:57:19 <juhp[m]> I added a note about ibus-table-chinese-cangjie
05:57:45 <juhp[m]> Okay I will open a PR of qt4 today
05:57:56 <paragan> juhp[m], thanks
05:58:46 <paragan> moving to next issue
05:59:29 <paragan> #info #158: State of i18n and l10n in Workstation (petersen)
05:59:30 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/158
06:00:03 <juhp[m]> Ya planning to get onto this shortly - hopefully it could be covered in May at least
06:00:21 <juhp[m]> If you have ideas please add to the ticket
06:01:17 <juhp[m]> Or mention them now even
06:02:03 <juhp[m]> I am planning to cover things like IM, fonts, langpacks - probably need some help on the l10n side
06:03:09 <paragan[m]> thanks for the update
06:04:01 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
06:04:11 <paragan[m]> #info #159: use weak deps to install ibus immodules etc (petersen)
06:04:11 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/159
06:04:41 <juhp[m]> Ah oops I was conflated this with the KDE issue earlier....
06:05:42 <juhp[m]> (no movement on the kinoite pr)
06:05:53 <paragan[m]> Ok
06:07:08 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
06:07:34 <paragan[m]> #info #161: add QA testcase for OS upgrade testing (petersen)
06:07:34 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/161
06:08:49 <juhp[m]> Perhaps we could have an F37 tag?
06:09:05 <juhp[m]> Though still good to test F35 to F36
06:09:30 <paragan[m]> Ok
06:11:04 <paragan[m]> lets move to next issue
06:11:18 <paragan[m]> #info #162: track Fonts component bugs (petersen)
06:11:19 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/162
06:12:22 <tagoh[m]1> Yep, I've triaged some.
06:13:00 <paragan[m]> Thank you for triaging them
06:13:44 <tagoh[m]1> nothing so far to discuss here for them
06:13:52 <paragan[m]> Sure
06:13:53 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
06:14:23 <juhp[m]> Anything we can do to move https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2062386 forward?
06:14:24 <juhp[m]> You said separate bugs should be filed?
06:14:40 <tagoh[m]1> Yes
06:14:51 <juhp[m]> okay
06:16:12 <paragan[m]> #info #163: create a table of ibus support across desktop/toolkits/applications (petersen)
06:16:12 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/163
06:16:56 <juhp[m]> Right - haven't started this yet - we should finish it in the next month or so
06:17:13 <paragan[m]> Sure
06:17:17 <paragan[m]> thanks
06:17:18 <juhp[m]> Probably once F36 is out
06:17:47 <paragan[m]> okay
06:18:45 <paragan[m]> #info #164: start to document our default fonts choices (petersen)
06:18:45 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/164
06:19:26 <juhp[m]> Ya I sometimes feel we don't remember or know why we chose the fonts we need - so I would like a written record of that
06:19:44 <juhp[m]> It can probably just be a longish table
06:19:53 <juhp[m]> Starting with @fonts probably
06:20:12 <juhp[m]> But it should be extended to langpacks fonts of course
06:20:21 <tagoh[m]1> You want a sort of changelog for @fonts?
06:20:36 <juhp[m]> and langpacks ya
06:20:42 <tagoh[m]1> aha
06:21:10 <juhp[m]> So in the very first instance we may just list them
06:21:32 <juhp[m]> and hopefully can be gradually decorated with some notes about them
06:22:12 <juhp[m]> Not sure if there is any existing wiki page close to this?
06:22:59 <tagoh[m]1> I guess not. but it could be picked up by commit log for comps perhaps.
06:23:52 <tagoh[m]1> it may be hard to see all of them in a easier way since comps file is forked per new releases.
06:24:09 <juhp[m]> Well having historical data is certainly interesting - I guess I am more interested in current/future default fonts
06:24:41 <tagoh[m]1> Yep. good to have.
06:25:07 <juhp[m]> Maybe also consistency with langpacks
06:25:49 <tagoh[m]1> let me try to write some draft for that.
06:25:57 <juhp[m]> Okay thank you
06:27:01 <juhp[m]> My naive idea was basically just a large table with "default font" and "explanation" columns, but there could be more details sure
06:27:41 <juhp[m]> Maybe there should be a languages column too perhaps
06:27:45 <tagoh[m]1> Okay
06:29:47 <paragan[m]> moving to next issue
06:30:04 <paragan[m]> #info #165: Invitation to add to Mindshare Quarterly Report (riecatnor)
06:30:04 <paragan[m]> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/165
06:31:15 <juhp[m]> Any ideas?
06:32:40 <paragan[m]> not sure yet
06:33:11 <juhp[m]> I think it is now or never :-)
06:33:11 <juhp[m]> I am also struggling think of anything
06:34:09 <juhp[m]> It looks like we can write almost anything??
06:34:31 <paragan[m]> looks like yes
06:35:30 <juhp[m]> And yet
06:36:05 <paragan[m]> maybe we can write that we implemented 4 Change proposals
06:36:08 <juhp[m]> Any help wanted?
06:36:52 <paragan[m]> no I will see what I can write there
06:36:53 <paragan[m]> thanks
06:37:52 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:38:01 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:38:07 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:38:20 <juhp[m]> Perhaps we write something open - like we welcome feedback via pagure and bugzilla?
06:38:35 <juhp[m]> and mention this meeting
06:38:59 <juhp[m]> we can write *
06:39:15 <paragan> okay maybe you have better idea of what to write. You can go ahead to write there.
06:39:24 <juhp[m]> I can try
06:39:31 <paragan> thanks
06:42:16 <paragan> anything else to discuss?
06:43:12 <paragan> Thanks for joining this meeting. Let's close this meeting.
06:43:17 <paragan> #endmeeting