05:31:44 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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05:31:45 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
05:31:45 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
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05:31:45 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2022-02-21
05:31:57 <priyam> hi
05:32:00 <suanand> hello
05:32:19 <pwu> hi
05:32:29 <juhp[m]> hi everyone
05:32:30 <tagoh> hi
05:33:34 <paragan> #chair priyam suanand pwu juhp[m]  tagoh
05:33:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: juhp[m] paragan priyam pwu suanand tagoh
05:33:42 <paragan> Hi all
05:33:50 * mfabian ☺
05:33:58 <paragan> #chair mfabian
05:33:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: juhp[m] mfabian paragan priyam pwu suanand tagoh
05:34:11 <paragan> Let's start this meeting
05:34:17 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:34:41 <paragan> #info 2022-02-22 Bodhi updates-testing activation point
05:34:41 <paragan> #info 2022-02-22 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
05:34:42 <paragan> #info 2022-02-22 Beta Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)
05:34:57 <paragan> so tomorrow Beta freeze is going to start
05:35:52 <paragan> and the current F36 Beta blocker list is https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/36/beta/buglist
05:37:13 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
05:38:22 <paragan> I guess nothing to discuss here so let's move
05:38:36 <paragan> #topic Issues
05:38:44 <paragan> #info #144: Fedora 34 Bug triaging  (pnemade)
05:38:44 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/144
05:39:23 <paragan> This ticket is reminder that we have some bugs reported against F34. Please have a look at bugs assigned to you.
05:40:02 <paragan> anyone want any discussion here?
05:41:58 <paragan> I assume no discussion needed. Let's move to next ticket.
05:42:16 <paragan> #info #148: use Noto font for Ethiopian Amharic script (tagoh)
05:42:16 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/148
05:42:46 <tagoh> That should be done.
05:43:14 <tagoh> as a part of Noto Default f36 Change proposal.
05:44:16 <juhp[m]> (I moved my last F34 bug to F35, so down to 50 now)
05:44:39 <paragan> tagoh, can this ticket be closed then?
05:45:18 <tagoh> If we don't need any particular QA for that?
05:46:27 <paragan> I am not sure if we will get any QE people to work on this
05:46:41 <juhp[m]> We got some feedback from the reporter, no?
05:47:03 <paragan> but I think our members can test during F36 i18n test week
05:47:06 <tagoh> Not yet
05:47:52 <tagoh> paragan, Yep
05:49:06 <paragan> Okay
05:50:41 <paragan> Let's move
05:50:57 <paragan> #info #149: create Matrix room for Fedora i18n (petersen)
05:50:57 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/149
05:51:36 <juhp[m]> No change since last time - ie bridging is still pending afaik
05:52:28 <juhp[m]> Maybe we can try to ping the infra people next month - right now is probably quite busy, eg with bugzilla changes and beta etc
05:53:32 <paragan> Ok let's keep looking into this ticket.
05:54:08 <juhp[m]> Though I didn't manage it surface it in Fractal - though I haven't tried that hard
05:55:13 <paragan> Ok
05:55:21 <juhp[m]> s/it/to
05:55:43 <paragan> Let's move
05:56:14 <paragan> #info #151: F36 Change: DefaultToNotoFonts (tagoh)
05:56:14 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/151
05:56:19 <juhp[m]> Still good to join when you can though
05:56:48 <paragan> Is this Change tracker bug now MODIFIED or ON_QA state?
05:56:56 <tagoh> Yep, that is also ready to test.
05:57:00 <paragan> any issues remaining for this Change?
05:57:02 <tagoh> ON_QA now
05:57:51 <paragan> Ok
05:58:11 <paragan> thanks
05:58:16 <tagoh> Ah, I should mention something on relnotes ticket for this one.
05:58:16 <paragan> Let's move
05:58:36 <paragan> right we need relnotes
05:58:53 <tagoh> Yep. will take a look.
05:59:50 <paragan> thanks
05:59:58 <paragan> #info #152: F36 Change: Hunspell_dictionary_dir_change (pnemade)
05:59:58 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/152
06:00:35 <paragan> The Change bug tracker moved to ON_QA already
06:00:50 <paragan> and I think there are no issues remaining here to be fixed
06:01:00 <paragan> F36 release notes are pending
06:02:11 <juhp[m]> Are we tracking dictionaries?
06:02:40 <paragan> I am not
06:03:36 <paragan> Let's move
06:04:38 <paragan> #info #153: F36 Change: MalayalamDefaultFontsUpdate (pnemade)
06:04:38 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/153
06:05:15 <paragan> The Change bug tracker moved to ON_QA already
06:05:30 <paragan> and I think here also no issues remaining here to be fixed
06:07:28 <paragan> I will work on release notes ticket.
06:07:36 <paragan> Let's move to next ticket
06:07:45 <paragan> #info #154: F36 Change: Ibus_table_cangjie_default_for_zh_hk (mfabian)
06:07:45 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/154
06:08:00 <mfabian> I think everything is done here.
06:08:15 <paragan> good to know that
06:08:29 <paragan> you can work on adding some release notes text for this change
06:08:35 <mfabian> OK!
06:09:07 <paragan> thanks
06:09:32 <paragan> Let's move to next ticket
06:09:39 <paragan> #info #155: Fedora 36 i18n test day/week (pnemade)
06:09:39 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/155
06:10:00 <paragan> i need to still work on creating testweek pages. I will find some time this week.
06:11:03 <paragan> This is reminder to you all that we will be having Fedora 36 i18n test week from 8th March
06:11:06 <juhp[m]> thanks
06:11:20 <paragan> Please do join and provide your test results
06:12:32 <paragan> Let's move to next ticket
06:12:57 <paragan> #info #157: KDE spin missing ibus IMEs and imsettings (petersen)
06:12:57 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/157
06:14:34 <juhp[m]> ah sorry
06:15:16 <juhp[m]> Ya, I opened this issue tracker since the effort got stalled...
06:15:24 <juhp[m]> Anyone willing to help?
06:16:01 <juhp[m]> I opened PR a while back but ngompa though it should be done differently
06:16:02 <tagoh> comps should be okay but kickstart needs to be updated right?
06:16:53 <juhp[m]> Somewhat related I realised (ie also comps) that Workstation does not use @input-methods any more
06:17:09 <juhp[m]> ah maybe yes, thanks
06:18:11 <juhp[m]> I am wondering if we shouldn't use weak deps to pull in ibus-gtk2 etc
06:20:45 <paragan> keep adding comments in the ticket also for any work being done for this ticket
06:21:26 <juhp[m]> Yes you are right imsettings-systemd is also in @input-methods now so should be good for kde
06:22:47 <paragan> anything more to discuss here?
06:23:02 <juhp[m]> probably not
06:23:20 <paragan> Thanks
06:23:25 <paragan> let's move to next ticket
06:23:33 <juhp[m]> fujiwarawould appreciate your thoughts on using weak deps for immodules
06:23:46 <juhp[m]> fujiwara ^
06:24:17 <juhp[m]> I will open anothre ticket for that
06:24:22 <juhp[m]> another
06:25:08 <fujiwara> I'm fine to drop ibus-gtk2 by default. A few applications likes leafpad, use gtk2.
06:27:46 <paragan> #info #158: State of i18n and l10n in Workstation (petersen)
06:27:46 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/158
06:30:13 <paragan> juhp[m],
06:30:49 <juhp[m]> fujiwara it is already dropped I think - but some users need it - eg hexchat
06:31:11 <juhp[m]> sorry again - I was looking at the kde kickstarts...
06:31:41 <juhp[m]> Yes any input for this - I think there will be a WS WG session about i18n and l10n next month
06:32:01 <juhp[m]> If you have ideas please put them in one of the tickets
06:32:24 <juhp[m]> I think there is quite a lot of topics that could be covered
06:33:30 <fujiwara> And then I don't know what you're still wondering.
06:35:43 <juhp[m]> fujiwara I install pulling in gtk2 to also install ibus-gtk2 if ibus is installed
06:35:57 <juhp[m]> s/install/want/
06:37:29 <juhp[m]> My point is it is no longer pre-installed
06:38:18 <juhp[m]> Anyway I think we can move on - but I would really appreciate help with the above i18n topics for WS
06:39:04 <paragan> Sure
06:39:05 <paragan> thanks
06:39:16 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:39:20 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:42:02 <paragan> probably nothing
06:42:14 <paragan> Thank you all who joined here today
06:42:18 <paragan> #endmeeting