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16:00:03 <glb> #meetingname magazine
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16:00:03 <glb> #topic Roll call
16:00:03 <glb> #chair glb rlengland theevilskeleton
16:00:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton
16:00:16 <glb> .hello glb
16:00:16 <zodbot> glb: [hellomynameis glb]
16:00:33 <RichardEngland[m> .hello rlengland
16:00:33 <zodbot> RichardEngland[m: [hellomynameis rlengland]
16:00:37 <TheEvilSkeleton> .hello theevilskeleton
16:00:37 <zodbot> TheEvilSkeleton: [hellomynameis theevilskeleton]
16:00:49 <TheEvilSkeleton> Hello everyone :)
16:01:02 <glb> g'morning TheEvilSkeleton
16:01:05 <RichardEngland[m> 👋.
16:01:27 <glb> o/ Richard England
16:01:37 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:01:38 <glb> #topic Agenda... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2cac4e5376eae9eaa9b69ea0180ecb50a7cb3384)
16:01:48 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:01:48 <glb> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
16:01:57 <glb> #info Week of Nov 8: 82.9K pageviews -- coming down off the release announcement highs
16:02:08 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:02:08 <glb> #topic 2/ In progress followup
16:02:08 <glb> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
16:02:08 <glb> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
16:02:59 <glb> It doesn't look like anything has moved since last week in the "in progress" column. 🙁
16:03:47 <glb> And there is nothing ready for review either, so we may have a problem for content for next week. 🙁
16:05:04 <RichardEngland[m> ...well it's a holiday week in the US we can blame it on that... ☚ī¸
16:05:49 <glb> Yeah. In the past we've run a short "best posts of the year" series during this time.
16:05:57 <glb> Maybe we need to bring that back.
16:06:17 <RichardEngland[m> What is the criteria for best?
16:06:41 <glb> I'm not sure. I've never done it.
16:07:21 <glb> I think someone just needs to go through the stats in jetpack to figure out which post from this year have the most pageviews.
16:08:14 <TheEvilSkeleton> This one looks like an easy article, but the author hasn't started yet https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/397?kanban-status=191
16:08:17 <glb> I think there was some categorization in the past articles as well -- "top 3 sysadmin articles", "top 3 developer articles", etc.
16:09:18 <TheEvilSkeleton> * yet https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/397?kanban-status=191. I don't mind writing one for GitLab
16:09:54 <glb> TheEvilSkeleton: Since you are familiar with the topic. We'll leave it to you to get that one moved along. 🙂
16:10:14 <TheEvilSkeleton> For GitLab or for GitHub? I guess we can ping the author for GitHub
16:10:53 <glb> It doesn't look like there has been any response from the author since the card was created over a month ago.
16:11:27 <TheEvilSkeleton> Should I create the card on Pagure or on Taiga?
16:11:40 <glb> Ask the author if they are still interested in it and if you don't get  a response in the next week, go ahead and take it yourself.
16:12:36 <glb> You can go ahead and migrate the card to pagure if you want. As long as you think you can get it done before December 17th, it shouldn't matter.
16:13:13 <glb> On December 17th, Taiga is going away. So we must have all the content we want to keep off of that system by then.
16:13:54 <RichardEngland[m> ....point of order,...what agenda item are we on? 😉
16:14:47 <glb> We are on "in progress" and pondering the situation. 🙂
16:15:09 <glb> I guess we can move along if nobody has anything to add?
16:15:46 <RichardEngland[m> Next item should move really fast
16:15:57 <glb> Let's see ...
16:16:02 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:16:03 <glb> #info Are there any upcoming test days?
16:16:03 <glb> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/
16:16:14 <glb> Hmm, one is ongoing.
16:17:28 <glb> So it looks like Sunday is the last day for the text week. TheEvilSkeleton, will you be able to unpin the test days article on Monday morning?
16:18:45 <TheEvilSkeleton> What do you mean by unpin?
16:20:00 <glb> If you look at the list of Fedora Magazine articles on the front page, you'll notice that the test days article is listed first even though it was published a while ago.
16:20:33 <glb> It is listed first because it has been pinned to the top of the list (because it is a week-long event).
16:21:11 <glb> The pin/unpin setting can be found under the "quick edit" link on the posts view in WordPress.
16:21:21 <glb> I think it is just a checkbox.
16:22:28 <RichardEngland[m> ...or I believe, if you go to the article here:
16:22:28 <RichardEngland[m> https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=35411&action=edit
16:22:28 <RichardEngland[m> There is a check box for "Stick to the top of the blog" In the right column in the "Post" tab / category
16:23:15 <TheEvilSkeleton> Looks like you're already editing the article so I'm going to wait
16:23:24 <glb> Or that. 🙂
16:23:56 <RichardEngland[m> I was looking in the article to make certain I had the right location for that check box.
16:33:08 <TheEvilSkeleton> Bummer, there's no "due date" button in the fedora-magazine-newsroom repo, I wanted to add a due date so I can get an email reminder about it. I'll have to put it in my calendar
16:33:09 <glb> OK. So I'm assuming that TheEvilSkeleton will be able to handle the unpining of the article then (i.e. he won't be on vacation or anything). 🙂
16:33:09 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:33:09 <glb> #info Review release schedule
16:33:09 <glb> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html
16:33:09 <glb> nothing until march.
16:33:09 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:33:09 <glb> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
16:33:10 <glb> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
16:33:10 <glb> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
16:33:11 <glb> 😮‍💨
16:33:11 <glb> I guess there is a chance that something might be ready between now and the end of next week.
16:33:12 <glb> There is no way that three thing will become ready anytime soon though.
16:33:12 <glb> Maybe we should move tomorrow's article to Monday to sort of spread out the content that we currently have.
16:33:13 <glb> I don't want to go a whole week without any articles to publish.
16:33:13 <glb> I could use a little more time to do the editing anyway. 😛
16:33:14 <glb> On the plus side, it is a really long article, so maybe that will make up for some of the lack of content. 😛
16:33:21 <glb> The articles that are currently up are pretty good too -- the business card article and the godot packaging article -- so I don't mind giving them a little more air time. 🙂
16:33:23 <RichardEngland[m> That would be a "good move"
16:33:23 <RichardEngland[m> <:
16:33:23 <glb> Well, unless anyone has anything more to add?
16:33:28 <RichardEngland[m> ...nope, just waiting on the authors
16:33:30 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:33:30 <glb> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
16:33:30 <glb> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
16:33:30 <glb> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
16:34:22 <glb> Just mine. I've updated the date.
16:34:29 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:34:30 <glb> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
16:34:30 <glb> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
16:34:30 <glb> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
16:34:30 <glb> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
16:34:42 <glb> 🔹 show proposed
16:34:43 <glb> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Mon 22 Nov 2021: #339 Use Fedora Server as a small On-Premise Pager Duty like server (editor: @glb)
16:34:51 <glb> +1
16:34:59 <glb> 🔹 show agreed
16:35:01 <glb> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Mon 22 Nov 2021: #339 Use Fedora Server as a small On-Premise Pager Duty like server (editor: @glb)
16:35:05 <RichardEngland[m> +1
16:35:26 <glb> I figured you'd agree since you didn't have any articles to edit. 😛
16:35:31 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:35:32 <glb> #topic 6/ Editor of the week
16:35:44 <RichardEngland[m> Sir, you do me wrong.....:-)
16:36:17 <glb> Hmm, since Richard England doesn't have any articles to edit maybe we should make him "king" for next week ...
16:37:18 <glb> green sleeves, green sleeves, you do me wrong, to cast me off so discourteously ...  😛
16:37:30 <glb> I think it was a king who wrote that.
16:37:33 <RichardEngland[m> well done
16:38:34 <RichardEngland[m> Henry the eighth
16:38:40 <RichardEngland[m> ...supposedly
16:39:26 <glb> Well, I guess I could still use so more time to test the "zinebot" I'm working on, so ...
16:39:37 <glb> #info glb will be editor of the week next week.
16:39:43 <glb> 🔹 next topic
16:39:44 <glb> #topic 7/ Open floor
16:40:31 <RichardEngland[m> I'm going to be in the midst of a minor construction project next week so my time may be limited.  But I'll try to keep an eye on things in case any articles break loose
16:40:59 <glb> rlengland++
16:41:03 <RichardEngland[m> Do you have an outline/plan for how and what we need to move before 17 Dec?
16:41:21 <glb> Nope.
16:42:06 <glb> I think we can basically just expect that the site will "disappear" on that day.
16:42:45 <glb> I can and will do a export of all the non-archived content as a "CSV" file though.
16:43:05 <RichardEngland[m> Can you reuse your process/scripts to move the "In progress" to Pagure?
16:43:08 <glb> And that should even include the comments, but I'm not totally sure.
16:43:19 <glb> I could.
16:43:30 <glb> My script doesn't grab the comments though.
16:44:03 <glb> So maybe we should make the "official" transition to pagure the week before.
16:44:30 <glb> And transfer any "important" comments between the remaining cards by hand?
16:44:36 <RichardEngland[m> We could move any useful ones manually.  Yes, an earlier cut-over would be good, I thik
16:44:40 <RichardEngland[m> *think
16:44:55 <glb> Sounds like a plan. 🙂
16:45:05 <RichardEngland[m> Some of those might be "stalled"
16:45:15 <RichardEngland[m> but we can look at that when we move comments
16:45:21 <glb> Hmm, good point.
16:45:58 <glb> Maybe we should just move any cards that remain in "in progress" on Taiga at that time directly to the "stalled" column on Pagure?
16:46:53 <RichardEngland[m> Some like 394 397 322 355 are reall in progress
16:47:12 <glb> OK. Well make that determination when the time comes then.
16:47:18 <sandipan> :)
16:47:28 <glb> Thanks for keeping track of all this Richard!
16:47:38 <RichardEngland[m> 👍
16:48:12 <glb> OK then. If there are no further comments and/or questions?
16:48:45 <RichardEngland[m> I'm good
16:48:55 <glb> #endmeeting