f35-final-go_no_go-meeting
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#fedora-meeting: F35 Final Go/No-Go meeting

Meeting started by bcotton_ at 17:00:06 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (bcotton_, 17:00:22)
  2. Purpose of this meeting (bcotton_, 17:04:32)
    1. Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F35 Final is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (bcotton_, 17:04:34)
    2. This is determined in a few ways: (bcotton_, 17:04:35)
    3. 1. No remaining blocker bugs (bcotton_, 17:04:37)
    4. 2. Release candidate compose is available (bcotton_, 17:04:38)
    5. 3. Test matrices for Final are fully completed (bcotton_, 17:04:40)

  3. Current status - blockers (bcotton_, 17:04:44)
    1. https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist (bcotton_, 17:04:46)
    2. 7 Proposed Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:15)
    3. 2 Accepted Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:17)
    4. 0 Accepted 0-day Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:18)
    5. 0 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:20)

  4. (2016310) The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode. (bcotton_, 17:06:32)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310 (bcotton_, 17:06:33)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/562 (bcotton_, 17:06:35)
    3. Proposed Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, NEW (bcotton_, 17:06:36)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +sumantrom, +lruzicka, +frantisekz) (bcotton_, 17:06:38)
    5. AGREED: 2016310 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - This is a clear violation of the "basic graphics mode" criterion (bcotton_, 17:12:01)

  5. (2015809) app can't be installed&removed or removed&installed, without Discover restart (bcotton_, 17:18:35)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015809 (bcotton_, 17:18:37)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/560 (bcotton_, 17:18:38)
    3. Proposed Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (bcotton_, 17:18:40)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-6) (+kparal, +lruzicka, -frantisekz, -geraldosimiao, -adamwill, -bcotton, -kevin, -scorreia) (bcotton_, 17:18:41)
    5. AGREED: 2015809 - RejectedBlocker(Final) AcceptedFreezeException(Final) - It is functional enough to ship and fix in an update, but we'd like to have it in the release if a fix is available and we slip (bcotton_, 17:22:54)

  6. (2015490) It is possible to go through the initial setup without creating a root and without adding a user to the wheel group (bcotton_, 17:23:23)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490 (bcotton_, 17:23:24)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/555 (bcotton_, 17:23:26)
    3. Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (bcotton_, 17:23:28)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-7) (+pwhalen, -catanzaro, -lruzicka, -adamwill, -geraldosimiao, -bcotton, -kevin, -sumantrom) (bcotton_, 17:23:29)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+adamwill) (bcotton_, 17:23:31)
    6. pwhalen is testing. we will come back to this (bcotton_, 17:30:16)

  7. (2010740) after enabling third-party repos, the included apps can't be found (except Chrome) (bcotton_, 17:30:39)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010740 (bcotton_, 17:30:40)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/500 (bcotton_, 17:30:42)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, ASSIGNED (bcotton_, 17:30:43)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-4) (+kparal, -catanzaro, -frantisekz, -lruzicka, -sumantrom) (bcotton_, 17:30:45)
    5. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/500#comment-758656 (bittin, 17:33:49)
    6. AGREED: 2010740 - AcceptedBlocker(Final) - This occurs often enough in testing to violate the final criterion: If an initial setup utility is run or intended to be run after the first boot of the installed system, then it must start successfully and each page or panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a basic functionality test. (bcotton_, 17:50:32)

  8. (2015490) It is possible to go through the initial setup without creating a root and without adding a user to the wheel group (bcotton_, 17:52:25)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490 (bcotton_, 17:52:27)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/555 (bcotton_, 17:52:28)
    3. Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (bcotton_, 17:52:30)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-7) (+pwhalen, -catanzaro, -lruzicka, -adamwill, -geraldosimiao, -bcotton, -kevin, -sumantrom) (bcotton_, 17:52:31)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+adamwill) (bcotton_, 17:52:32)
    6. pwhalen confirms this behavior existed in F34 (bcotton_, 17:52:42)
    7. AGREED: 2015490 - RejectedBlocker(Final) AcceptedFreezeException(Final) CommonBugs - This can be fixed with a reinstall if noticed quickly and is a behavior that existed in previous releases (bcotton_, 17:55:24)

  9. (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs (bcotton_, 17:55:55)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (bcotton_, 17:55:56)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (bcotton_, 17:55:58)
    3. Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (bcotton_, 17:55:59)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+bcotton) (bcotton_, 17:56:01)
    5. ACTION: bcotton to Check with Major Hayden if he has a contact at vexxhost who could help us with this (bcotton_, 18:06:26)
    6. We'll proceed with the remaining blockers and see if we can punt on this one again (bcotton_, 18:07:47)

  10. (2015491) Install/Remove buttons are cropped, the text is off-screen (bcotton_, 18:08:11)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015491 (bcotton_, 18:08:12)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/556 (bcotton_, 18:08:13)
    3. Proposed Blocker, plasma-discover, VERIFIED (bcotton_, 18:08:15)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +lruzicka, +bcotton, +kevin) (bcotton_, 18:08:16)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+adamwill, +sumantrom) (bcotton_, 18:08:18)
    6. AGREED: 2015491 - AcceptedBlocker(Final) - This is fixed, but for paperwork purposes, it violates the package manager functionality requirements (bcotton_, 18:11:48)

  11. (2015972) systemd-vconsole-setup.service fails on an arabic system (bcotton_, 18:12:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015972 (bcotton_, 18:12:17)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/561 (bcotton_, 18:12:19)
    3. Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (bcotton_, 18:12:20)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-2) (+adamwill, +bcotton, +kevin, +frantisekz, -sgallagh, -lruzicka) (bcotton_, 18:12:22)
    5. AGREED: 2015972 - AcceptedBlocker(Final) - This is clear violation of the "If a particular keyboard layout has been configured for the system, that keyboard layout must be used: ... When logging in at a console" criterion (bcotton_, 18:20:44)

  12. Accepted Blockers (bcotton_, 18:22:45)
    1. Not counting the ones accepted earlier in the meeting, we have 2 accepted blockers (bcotton_, 18:23:00)
    2. (bcotton_, 18:23:24)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 (bcotton_, 18:23:27)
    4. Accepted Blocker, fedora-third-party, ASSIGNED (bcotton_, 18:23:31)
    5. (bcotton_, 18:23:42)
    6. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 (bcotton_, 18:23:45)
    7. Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, MODIFIED (bcotton_, 18:23:58)
    8. We still have outstanding blockers (bcotton_, 18:27:40)

  13. Current status - test matrices (bcotton_, 18:27:57)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_35_Test_Results (bcotton_, 18:27:59)
    2. Coverage is good (bcotton_, 18:28:55)

  14. Current status - RC (bcotton_, 18:29:15)
    1. RC1 is the current release candidate (bcotton_, 18:29:21)

  15. Go/No-Go decision (bcotton_, 18:29:29)
    1. AGREED: F35 Final is NO-GO due to outstanding blockers (bcotton_, 18:30:03)
    2. AGREED: Fedora Linux 35 Final is NO-GO (bcotton_, 18:30:26)
    3. The next F35 Final Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday, 2021-10-28 at 1700 UTC (bcotton_, 18:30:27)
    4. F35 Final shifts to target release date 2: Tuesday 2021-11-02 (bcotton_, 18:30:29)
    5. ACTION: bcotton to announce decision (bcotton_, 18:30:45)
    6. ACTION: bcotton to update BZs with blocker decisions (bcotton_, 18:30:56)

  16. Open floor (bcotton_, 18:31:05)


Meeting ended at 18:32:36 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. bcotton to Check with Major Hayden if he has a contact at vexxhost who could help us with this
  2. bcotton to announce decision
  3. bcotton to update BZs with blocker decisions


People present (lines said)

  1. bcotton_ (176)
  2. adamw (104)
  3. nirik (42)
  4. pwhalen (33)
  5. geraldosimiao (33)
  6. bittin (31)
  7. lruzicka2 (21)
  8. Southern_Gentlem (16)
  9. sumantro (14)
  10. kparal (14)
  11. zodbot (12)
  12. mboddu (12)
  13. coremodule (11)
  14. cmurf[m] (4)
  15. StephenGallagher (3)
  16. leothecat (2)


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