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11:59:59 <bcotton_> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
11:59:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 28 11:59:59 2021 UTC.
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12:00:07 <gregbartholomew> .hello glb
12:00:08 <zodbot> gregbartholomew: glb 'Gregory Lee Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com>
12:00:11 <bcotton_> #meetingname magazine
12:00:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
12:00:20 <rlengland> .hello rlengland
12:00:20 <bcotton_> #topic Roll call
12:00:21 <zodbot> rlengland: rlengland 'Richard England' <rlengland@gmail.com>
12:00:22 <bcotton_> #chair ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr bcotton rlengland
12:00:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton bcotton_ cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rlengland rwaltr ryanlerch sub_pop
12:00:27 <bcotton_> good morning, gregbartholomew
12:00:35 <rlengland> 'morning
12:00:44 <bcotton_> good morning, rlengland
12:00:48 <gregbartholomew> good morning~
12:00:56 <gregbartholomew> s/~/!/
12:02:57 <bcotton_> okay,i suppose it's time to get started
12:03:07 <bcotton_> #topic Agenda
12:03:09 <bcotton_> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
12:03:10 <bcotton_> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:03:12 <bcotton_> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
12:03:13 <bcotton_> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
12:03:15 <bcotton_> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
12:03:16 <bcotton_> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
12:03:18 <bcotton_> #info -- 6/ Editor of the Week --
12:03:19 <bcotton_> #info -- 7/ Open floor --
12:03:21 <bcotton_> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
12:03:22 <bcotton_> #info Week of Apr 19: 64.9K pageviews -- Up slightly from the last few weeks, but nothing compared to what this week will get :-)
12:03:50 <bcotton_> this week may pass last week before the end of the meeting :-)
12:04:03 <bcotton_> #topic 2/ In progress followup
12:04:04 <bcotton_> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
12:04:05 <gregbartholomew> yay!! :)
12:04:06 <bcotton_> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:04:17 <bcotton_> i went through yesterday afternoon and pinged  a couple of cards
12:04:29 <bcotton_> i'm not too concerned since we have a pretty good pipeline at the moment
12:04:55 <gregbartholomew> sounds good to me.
12:05:46 <bcotton_> #info Are there any upcoming test days?
12:05:48 <bcotton_> #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/
12:05:52 <bcotton_> yes, and there's a card for it!
12:05:52 <gregbartholomew> yep.
12:06:27 <gregbartholomew> it even has a publication date set.
12:07:01 <bcotton_> one thing that belongs in this section, i suppose, is a check of the schedule. we were a little late asking workstation to give us that "What's new in workstation" article, although they did a great job
12:07:26 <bcotton_> #action bcotton to add a schedule check to the meeting template
12:08:19 <gregbartholomew> so just run the python script at this point?
12:08:30 <bcotton_> ?
12:08:45 <gregbartholomew> to check the schedules and see what they look like on existing cards?
12:09:01 <bcotton_> oh, no i mean the release schedule
12:09:05 <gregbartholomew> oh
12:09:13 <bcotton_> specifically https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-34/f-34-magazine-tasks.html
12:09:19 <bcotton_> #undo
12:09:19 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by bcotton_ at 12:07:26 : bcotton to add a schedule check to the meeting template
12:09:29 <bcotton_> #action bcotton to add a release schedule check to the meeting template
12:10:01 <gregbartholomew> that is just a once in six months thing?
12:10:02 <bcotton_> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
12:10:03 <bcotton_> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
12:10:05 <bcotton_> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:10:45 <bcotton_> basically (twice really, because beta), but if it's not on the regular agenda, we'll forget when the time comes
12:11:19 <gregbartholomew> ok, that makes sense
12:11:28 <bcotton_> gregbartholomew: you moved https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/307?kanban-status=196 to "Review". Is it ready for editing?
12:12:13 <gregbartholomew> i think so
12:12:37 <bcotton_> done!
12:12:51 <bcotton_> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
12:12:52 <bcotton_> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
12:12:54 <bcotton_> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:13:42 <bcotton_> looks like you two have been busy claiming articles :-)
12:13:52 <gregbartholomew> Unfortunately, yes
12:13:53 <bcotton_> i'll take #307 for editing
12:13:59 <gregbartholomew> thanks!
12:14:09 <gregbartholomew> bcotton++ :)
12:14:30 <rlengland> #305 and #296 are ready for scheduling, I believe
12:15:01 <bcotton_> rlengland: did the download link get added to 296?
12:15:23 <gregbartholomew> #255 and #303 have already been scheduled. They were just bumped due to the release announcements and test days.
12:15:44 <rlengland> Yes on 296
12:15:53 <bcotton_> cool, i'm moving them all to "queued" for now
12:16:17 <bcotton_> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
12:16:18 <bcotton_> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
12:16:20 <bcotton_> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
12:16:21 <bcotton_> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:16:29 <gregbartholomew> Yeah, that's fine. I haven't actually edited #303 yes, but I'll try to get to that later today.
12:16:36 <bcotton_> oh
12:16:58 <bcotton_> i'll move it back then. i thought you meant "scheduled" as in "scheduled in wordpress"
12:17:16 <gregbartholomew> no, I just meant that dates for publication had been assigned.
12:17:56 <gregbartholomew> I can actually scheduled #255 right now. It has had a first pass of editing done.
12:18:23 <gregbartholomew> I was just giving the author of #255 a chance to review the edits.
12:18:29 <bcotton_> cool
12:18:47 <bcotton_> we have an empty slot next wednesday that we could probably put the i3 article in
12:19:00 <rlengland> Works for me
12:19:25 <bcotton_> great
12:19:28 <rlengland> Thats 3 May?
12:19:35 <bcotton_> 5 may
12:19:39 <rlengland> Ack, yes
12:19:57 <rlengland> Not awake yet.
12:20:34 <bcotton_> so that leaves us with...
12:20:35 <bcotton_> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Wed 28 Apr 2021: #301 Rebasing Silverblue to F34 (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Fri 30 Apr 2021: #255 How to use freenode with matrix with registration and identification (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Mon 03 May 2021: #303 Setting up Wireguard in Fedora: How to configure the wireguard interface permanently using NetworkManager (image: glb, edit: DONE) -- Wed 05 May 2021: #296 The new Fedora i3 Spin (image:
12:20:37 <bcotton_> DONE, edit: DONE) -- Fri 07 May 2021: #313 Fedora Kernel 5.12 Test Week (image: DONE, edit: @bcotton)
12:20:44 <bcotton_> wow, it can't even fit on one line :-)
12:20:49 <bcotton_> when was the last time we had *that* problem?
12:21:52 <gregbartholomew> +1
12:23:28 <bcotton_> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Wed 28 Apr 2021: #301 Rebasing Silverblue to F34 (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Fri 30 Apr 2021: #255 How to use freenode with matrix with registration and identification (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Mon 03 May 2021: #303 Setting up Wireguard in Fedora: How to configure the wireguard interface permanently using NetworkManager (image: glb, edit: DONE)
12:23:52 <bcotton_> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE (continued) : Wed 05 May 2021: #296 The new Fedora i3 Spin (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Fri 07 May 2021: #313 Fedora Kernel 5.12 Test Week (image: DONE, edit: @bcotton)
12:24:07 <bcotton_> #topic 6/ Editor of the Week
12:24:16 <bcotton_> any volunteers for next week?
12:24:21 <bcotton_> i can take it again if needed
12:24:35 <gregbartholomew> i think these meetings run better when bcotton runs them :)
12:24:42 <rlengland> +1
12:24:56 <bcotton_> lots and lots of practice :-)
12:25:15 <bcotton_> #info bcotton will be Editor of the Week next week
12:25:33 <bcotton_> #topic 7/ Open floor
12:25:43 <bcotton_> #info Last call for meeting time change availabilty https://whenisgood.net/7ghthgn
12:25:53 <rlengland> #305  should it be scheduled?
12:26:03 <bcotton_> #action bcotton to share the results later today so we can pick a new meeting time
12:26:18 <gregbartholomew> yay!!
12:26:45 <gregbartholomew> do i need to fill it out again?
12:26:57 <rlengland> \o/
12:27:01 <bcotton_> rlengland: we can wait to next week to schedule it since we're scheduled pretty far out already
12:27:04 <bcotton_> gregbartholomew: nope!
12:27:57 <bcotton_> the other thing from last week is we were talking about a change to the workflow. gregbartholomew, do i recall that you were going to start that conversation
12:28:00 <bcotton_> question mark
12:28:27 <gregbartholomew> i thought we dropped it because there wasn't consensus.
12:29:12 <bcotton_> there definitely wasn't consensus
12:29:14 <gregbartholomew> I just wanted to keep the card visible for a bit after publication because I kept telling the authors that that was the place to contact the editors if there were any problems.
12:29:30 <bcotton_> but i think it's worth discussing it asynchronously
12:29:34 <gregbartholomew> it doesn't really matter.
12:29:52 <gregbartholomew> ok, I'll start a conversation on discussion
12:30:09 <bcotton_> i think it's more a matter of figuring out the details so we know how to update the docs/etc
12:30:11 <bcotton_> great
12:30:36 <bcotton_> #action gregbartholomew to start a Discussion conversation about modifying the workflow to keep cards visible for a time after publication
12:31:32 <gregbartholomew> will do, +1, that's all I got :)
12:31:33 <rlengland> Oh crap, I think I just forced #296 to publishe
12:31:42 <rlengland> Can we undo that?
12:32:11 <bcotton_> done
12:32:18 <rlengland> Sorry
12:32:30 <bcotton_> no worries :-) it happens sometimes
12:33:19 <bcotton_> at least we don't have any automatic reshares anywhere. i once published a half written blog post by accident that went to Twitter and LinkedIn the moment I clicked the button
12:33:21 <bcotton_> :-)
12:33:34 <rlengland> ouch
12:33:54 <bcotton_> thankfully it wasn't in bad shape, just incomplete :-)
12:34:02 <gregbartholomew> the more automation does for you, the more it can do /to/ you
12:34:18 <bcotton_> indeed
12:34:27 <rlengland> Can I use that in the future ? :-)
12:34:49 <gregbartholomew> i stole it from someone, i don't know who the original author was
12:35:01 <rlengland> Public Domain then
12:35:28 <gregbartholomew> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:36:19 <gregbartholomew> I think someone on a clusters from scratch IRC channel mentioned it years ago.
12:39:25 <bcotton_> anything else for open floor today?
12:39:51 <gregbartholomew> i don't have anything
12:39:56 <rlengland> nor me
12:40:37 <bcotton_> okay, see y'all next week then!
12:40:39 <bcotton_> #endmeeting