13:01:36 <jakfrost> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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13:01:36 <jakfrost> #meetingname magazine
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13:01:36 <jakfrost> #topic Roll call
13:01:36 <jakfrost> #chair stickster cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc bcotton
13:01:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc stickster
13:01:50 <jakfrost> .hello jakfrost
13:01:51 <zodbot> jakfrost: jakfrost 'Stephen Snow' <s40w5s@gmail.com>
13:03:14 <jakfrost> rlengland: nice to see you back
13:03:20 <rlengland> .hello rlengland
13:03:21 <zodbot> rlengland: rlengland 'Richard England' <rlengland@gmail.com>
13:03:33 <rlengland> Thank you.
13:04:06 <jakfrost> I'll wait a bit for others to announce themselves
13:05:23 <jakfrost> #topic Agenda
13:05:23 <jakfrost> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
13:05:23 <jakfrost> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
13:05:23 <jakfrost> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
13:05:23 <jakfrost> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
13:05:23 <jakfrost> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
13:05:25 <jakfrost> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
13:05:27 <jakfrost> #info -- 6/ Editor of the Week --
13:05:29 <jakfrost> #info -- 7/ Open floor --
13:06:12 <jakfrost> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
13:08:07 <stickster> .hello pfrields
13:08:08 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
13:08:15 <jakfrost> #info Week of December 7: 56.6K pageviews -- Slightly down from the previous week, likely a seasonal thing
13:08:21 <jakfrost> hello stickster
13:08:24 <stickster> jakfrost: Sorry I'm late. Unfortunately this is my last day at work for the year and I'm pretty overloaded today
13:08:33 <jakfrost> I bet, no worries
13:08:36 <stickster> Well, "Unfortunately" may not be precisely the right word :-)
13:08:45 <stickster> at least not in that order in the sentence
13:09:30 <jakfrost> we were just looking at the stats, a bit down last week
13:10:20 <jakfrost> #topic 2/ In progress followup
13:10:20 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
13:10:20 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:11:34 <jakfrost> Looks as if #266 is progressing nicely
13:11:57 <jakfrost> converting your filesystem to BTRFS
13:12:10 <jakfrost> interesting topic
13:13:13 <jakfrost> I am still awaiting a response from the author of #258 "An Interns experience with Rust"
13:14:29 <jakfrost> The author of #234 "Install Kubernettes with CRIO" needs some time to rework using F33 and SELinux enabled, so likely for next year
13:14:53 <jakfrost> sorry Kubernetes
13:15:35 <jakfrost> bcotton: any idea of when we can get #244 moved along?
13:16:13 <stickster> I left a comment in #234 -- it would be preferable not to cover CentOS in that article for reasons I hope are obvious
13:16:42 <jakfrost> Yeah, they have agreed to use F33 instead
13:17:16 <jakfrost> also as I was saying, the SELinux disabled approach was not ideal
13:17:31 <stickster> ^ agreed 100%
13:17:45 <jakfrost> #info Are there any upcoming test days?
13:17:45 <jakfrost> #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/
13:18:23 <stickster> We should never publish stuff using "disabled," and we should avoid "permissive" at all times unless it's absolutely necessary, and even then it would be important to point to an SELinux bug that shows status of a fix
13:18:48 <jakfrost> Definitely concur with that
13:19:14 <stickster> sumantro mentioned something on the list about an upcoming Test Day/Week in early January
13:19:31 <jakfrost> No upcoming test days this year, but there is Kernel testing for the new year. I think the post is ready for editing, but IU haven;t looked at it yet
13:19:34 <stickster> I think I responded to tell him it would be preferable to provide that article early for scheduling since I expect people will be scarce for holidays
13:19:37 <stickster> ^ yeah, that
13:19:57 <stickster> Do you want me to find it, and make a card for it for tracking?
13:20:09 <jakfrost> sounds good stickster, thank you
13:20:34 <rlengland> Testing 2nd wk in Jan (?)
13:20:47 <rlengland> according to the calendar
13:21:59 <jakfrost> From the 4-11 of Jan. 2021
13:22:24 <jakfrost> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
13:22:24 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
13:22:24 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:22:45 <jakfrost> We have a number of posts to review
13:23:14 <stickster> #action stickster Make a card for Test Day article (DONE)
13:23:20 <stickster> https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/268
13:23:34 <stickster> That's a good place to be :-)
13:24:28 <jakfrost> certainly is, but we may need some editorial assistance before year end
13:25:17 <jakfrost> #264 "Fedora CoreOS and Terraform" looks ready for editing to me, just at a glance
13:25:40 <jakfrost> thanks for catching the action
13:28:00 <jakfrost> #256 "Choosing BTRFS or LVM+EXT4" is well put together by Troy, it looks ready for editing too
13:31:09 <jakfrost> #168 "Using Pods with Podman on Fedora" looks ready to edit too
13:31:52 <stickster> I can take #264 and #268, can edit over the weekend at the latest
13:32:36 <stickster> Actually, let me amend that, I can do #268 and #256
13:32:50 <stickster> #268 is so short, let me leave that for someone who's new or more time-constrained next week
13:33:04 <stickster> oops, I can't type. Let me do #264 and #256
13:33:22 <jakfrost> Okay once we get to scheduling
13:33:48 <jakfrost> #260 is also ready to edit "Network address translation part 1 – packet tracing"
13:35:23 <jakfrost> #267 "4 cool new projects in copr" is also ready to edit
13:36:25 <jakfrost> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
13:36:25 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
13:36:25 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:36:55 <stickster> #action stickster edit + image #256 (BTRFS/LVM+ext4)
13:37:21 <jakfrost> #action stickster to edit and image #264 Terraform and CoreOS
13:37:22 <stickster> #action stickster edit + image #264 (Fedora CoreOS + Terraform)
13:37:25 <stickster> #undo
13:37:25 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by stickster at 13:37:22 : stickster edit + image #264 (Fedora CoreOS + Terraform)
13:37:30 <stickster> Yep :-)
13:37:56 <stickster> cverna: bcotton: Either of you able to take one of the others above? #260, #267?
13:38:32 <stickster> Or rlengland -- I think #267 could be an easy one to start with
13:38:34 <jakfrost> rlengland: do feel one of the editable article are one you would like to tackle
13:38:42 <jakfrost> like stickster said
13:38:56 <stickster> There are existing "4 things in COPR" articles that you can look at to see the finished, edited state
13:39:13 <rlengland> Certainly Let me give it a shot
13:39:17 <stickster> \o/
13:39:39 <stickster> There's also a pre-existing "4 things in COPR" featured image you can use already in the Magazine media gallery
13:39:58 <rlengland> Link to gallery ?
13:40:25 <rlengland> I'm still exploring the nooks and crannies
13:40:26 <jakfrost> I can take #168
13:41:03 <jakfrost> #action rlengland to edit and do image for #267 Copr projects
13:41:43 <jakfrost> #action jakfrost to edit and do image for #168 using Pods with Podaman
13:44:34 <jakfrost> so we still have #260 and #267
13:44:55 <jakfrost> sorry rlengland has #267
13:45:04 <jakfrost> so just #260
13:45:36 <jakfrost> I can take it
13:46:14 <jakfrost> #action jakfrost to edit and image #260 "Network address translation"
13:47:05 <jakfrost> whoo
13:47:29 <jakfrost> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
13:47:29 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
13:47:29 <jakfrost> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
13:47:29 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:47:51 <jakfrost> So, now when can we schedule?
13:48:53 <jakfrost> I can have one ready for Friday, either of the two I am doing, can someone have one for Monday of next week?
13:49:34 <jakfrost> The kernel test post can go out after Christmas day
13:49:36 <rlengland> I'll have 267 done by Friday.
13:49:50 <jakfrost> Okay, that sounds good
13:49:53 <rlengland> ...or earlier
13:49:57 <jakfrost> rlengland++
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13:50:17 <jakfrost> so do you mean this Friday or next
13:50:44 <rlengland> This Friday.  Assuming I find the gallery :-)
13:51:34 <jakfrost> How about I get #168 for this Friday and you aim for next Monday
13:51:52 <rlengland> Sounds good
13:51:57 <jakfrost> okay
13:52:43 <jakfrost> stickster when can you get yours ready for?
13:53:58 <jakfrost> I set the kernel test days for the 28th
13:56:17 <jakfrost> How about Dec 23 for #264 Terraform and Fedora CoreOS?
13:57:09 <stickster> jakfrost: Sorry, my notifier appears to have broken
13:57:21 <jakfrost> no worries
13:57:23 <stickster> I can get one of mine ready for Monday, the other for say Wed or Fri
13:57:46 <stickster> Oh, let's say Wed since Fri is Christmas
13:57:59 <stickster> If someone's looking for Magazine articles on Christmas Day, I would call that the definition of a benighted soul
13:58:12 <jakfrost> so Dec 23 okay for the Terraform one?
13:58:14 <stickster> yeah
13:58:48 <jakfrost> I'll do #260 for the 26th
13:59:01 <stickster> That's Saturday, right?
13:59:28 <jakfrost> right
13:59:31 <stickster> Might make sense to hold until Wed the 30th
13:59:38 <jakfrost> weekends mean very little to me
13:59:46 <stickster> Here's something we didn't really plan out... end of year review
14:00:09 <stickster> I guess we are doing "real articles" instead... I wonder if we missed out on a smarter plan here
14:00:12 <jakfrost> yeah it sort of died after cverna made the discourse topic
14:00:13 <stickster> But, live and learn
14:00:23 * stickster has to run, meeting
14:00:36 <stickster> see you in 2021, I won't be online after today until then
14:00:50 <jakfrost> see you and happy holidays
14:01:00 <jakfrost> thanks for joining
14:01:57 <rlengland> jakfrost: when I have questions, is the fedora-magazine channel a good place to ask?
14:02:12 <jakfrost> sure is, or on discourse too
14:02:23 <jakfrost> discussion.fedoraproject.org
14:02:32 <rlengland> great, TY
14:03:36 <jakfrost> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 18 Dec 2020: #168 Using Pod's with Podman on Fedora (image: @jakfrost, edit: @jakfrost) -- Mon 21 Dec 2020: #267 4 cool new projects to try in COPR from December 2020 (image: DONE, edit: TBD) -- Wed 23 Dec 2020: #264 Terraform and Fedora CoreOS (image: @stickster, edit: @stickster) -- Mon 28 Dec 2020: #268 Kernel 5.10 Test Day (image: DONE, edit: TBD) -- Wed 30 Dec 2020: #256 Choosing
14:03:36 <jakfrost> BTRFS or LVM+EXT4 (image: DONE, edit: @stickster) -- Mon 04 Jan 2021: #260 Network address translation part 1 – packet tracing (image: @jakfrost, edit: @jakfrost)
14:04:17 <pwhalen> howdy folks, are you finishing up or should we use another meeting room?
14:04:33 <jakfrost> just about through but need another 5
14:04:47 <pwhalen> ok
14:04:48 <jakfrost> sorry the year end has come up
14:05:18 <rlengland> #267 assign to me
14:05:35 <rlengland> or do I do that?
14:06:22 <jakfrost> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 18 Dec 2020: #168 Using Pod's with Podman on Fedora (image: @jakfrost, edit: @jakfrost) -- Mon 21 Dec 2020: #267 4 cool new projects to try in COPR from December 2020 (image: DONE, edit: rlengland) -- Wed 23 Dec 2020: #264 Terraform and Fedora CoreOS (image: @stickster, edit: @stickster) -- Mon 28 Dec 2020: #268 Kernel 5.10 Test Day (image: DONE, edit: @stickster) -- Wed 30 Dec 2020: #256
14:06:22 <jakfrost> Choosing BTRFS or LVM+EXT4 (image: DONE, edit: @stickster) -- Mon 04 Jan 2021: #260 Network address translation part 1 – packet tracing (image: @jakfrost, edit: @jakfrost)
14:06:28 <jakfrost> +1
14:08:01 <jakfrost> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 18 Dec 2020: #168 Using Pod's with Podman on Fedora (image: @jakfrost, edit: @jakfrost) -- Mon 21 Dec 2020: #267 4 cool new projects to try in COPR from December 2020 (image: DONE, edit: @rlengland) -- Wed 23 Dec 2020: #264 Terraform and Fedora CoreOS (image: @stickster, edit: @stickster) -- Mon 28 Dec 2020: #268 Kernel 5.10 Test Day (image: DONE, edit: @stickster) -- Wed 30 Dec 2020: #256
14:08:01 <jakfrost> Choosing BTRFS or LVM+EXT4 (image: DONE, edit: @stickster) -- Mon 04 Jan 2021: #260 Network address translation part 1 – packet tracing (image: @jakfrost, edit: @jakfrost)
14:08:10 <pbrobinson> jakfrost stickster cverna gregbartholomew misc bcotton can one of you end the meeting please?
14:08:27 <jakfrost> #endmeeting