21:00:26 <pgreco> #startmeeting EPEL (2020-10-30)
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21:00:33 <pgreco> #meetingname epel
21:00:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
21:00:35 <pgreco> #chair nirik tdawson bstinson Evolution pgreco carlwgeorge
21:00:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco pgreco carlwgeorge tdawson
21:00:44 <pgreco> #topic aloha
21:03:20 <michel_slm> .hello salimma
21:03:21 <zodbot> michel_slm: salimma 'Michel Alexandre Salim' <michel@michel-slm.name>
21:03:39 <pgreco> hey, I thought I was alone :)
21:05:04 <pgreco> ok, let's give the others 1 more min and then we move on
21:05:56 * michel_slm lost track of time debugging weird C++ build issues
21:06:00 <pgreco> #topic Old Business
21:06:23 <pgreco> weird C++ is something I like :)
21:06:42 <pgreco> ok, if nobody else is here, let's just talk fedpkg
21:07:23 <pgreco> michel_slm: did you have a chance to take a look at that revert?
21:08:06 <michel_slm> I have not, sorry
21:08:30 * King_InuYasha waves
21:09:02 <michel_slm> do you want to have a go at it? I still owe work getting all those Facebook packages built, and then finishing our F33 config
21:09:09 <pgreco> hey King_InuYasha
21:09:11 <michel_slm> hi King_InuYasha
21:09:23 <pgreco> my week felt like it had 30 days, so I didn't look at it either
21:09:51 * michel_slm will probably be very distracted until Tuesday or more anyway
21:09:56 <pgreco> michel_slm: are you normally around over the weekend? I'll try to poke at it tomorrow
21:10:23 <pgreco> oh, then no, hehe
21:10:28 <michel_slm> I'm normally not, but this weekend I have no plan of leaving the house, so... should be free after Saturday lunch time
21:10:57 <michel_slm> (US elections next Tuesday, so... I could use the distraction)
21:10:58 <pgreco> I'll just PM you if I take a look
21:11:06 <michel_slm> sounds good
21:11:20 <pgreco> hehe, yeah, I'm anxious too, and I don't live there :)
21:11:49 <pgreco> do you have anything for EPEL-Packaging-SIG / epel-wranglers ?
21:12:41 <michel_slm> I have the wiki page up, could use some input on it
21:13:05 <michel_slm> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Packagers
21:13:23 <michel_slm> and need to find the issue Neal reported last week and file a tracking issue for it
21:13:56 <michel_slm> ah, here's the issue
21:13:57 <michel_slm> https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/29938
21:15:34 <pgreco> I'll take a look at the wiki after the meeting
21:16:02 <pgreco> what's with that issue?
21:16:08 <michel_slm> https://pagure.io/epel/issue/106
21:17:07 <michel_slm> for the EPEL Packagers SIG, we anticipate some Fedora maintainers want to give the SIG access to EPEL branches but not Fedora branches. but the collaborator ACL does not grant the ability to request branches even when they match the whitelist
21:17:18 <pgreco> oh, interesting
21:17:22 <michel_slm> nirik is not here, so... not sure if I should also file that as an infra ticket, or it's enough having it on the EPEL tracker
21:17:45 <pgreco> yeap, sounds like the right person to ask
21:18:04 <pgreco> seems like infra is the right place
21:19:16 <pgreco> King_InuYasha: any input on that from the fedora side?
21:19:41 <pgreco> anything that you may see as a blocker for us to request branches?
21:19:51 <King_InuYasha> I wouldn't know... that's a pingou or nirik thing
21:20:37 <pgreco> right, but more like an implementation thing
21:20:45 <pgreco> not something that should be blocked
21:21:01 <smooge> hello sorry.. was off
21:21:14 <michel_slm> yeah, we probably should loop in pingou. I think everyone here agreed in past meetings that policy-wise this makes sense
21:21:14 <pgreco> hey smooge!
21:21:44 <michel_slm> note that collaborator access is new anyway, so it's understandable that many tools don't take that into account. until very recently even committers can't request branches!
21:21:49 <michel_slm> hi smooge !
21:21:50 <pgreco> yeah, I was just trying to confirm that it wasn't blocked behind our backs :)
21:22:54 <smooge> I don't have good answers to these but I would say open an Infrastructure ticket with a pointer to the EPEL one
21:23:07 <smooge> that way pingou or nirik can look at it
21:23:29 <michel_slm> will do
21:23:41 <michel_slm> carl's not here so we can't talk epel-next huh
21:24:00 <pgreco> yeap, I was just writing that
21:24:27 <pgreco> #info EPEL-6 is End of Life in 2020-11. It will be moved to archives in 2020-12
21:24:28 <pgreco> #info THIS IS NOT A DRILL.
21:24:33 <pgreco> moving on...
21:24:37 <smooge> I posted a blog on this yesterday
21:25:04 <smooge> http://smoogespace.blogspot.com/2020/10/rhel-6centos-6scilin-6epel-6-end-of.html
21:25:26 <smooge> that is pretty much what will be the process as I know it
21:25:28 <pgreco> thanks
21:26:27 <pgreco> can't believe it is 10 years already....
21:26:36 <pgreco> anything else on this?
21:26:58 <michel_slm> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9427
21:27:37 <michel_slm> <pgreco "#info THIS IS NOT A DRILL. "> you sound like tdawson :)
21:28:10 <pgreco> he left me his notes, I'm copying/pasting :)
21:29:02 <pgreco> so I sound like him because I'm channeling his thoughts, hehe
21:29:15 <michel_slm> I have a small item when we get to epel7
21:29:19 <pgreco> #topic EPEL-7
21:29:27 <pgreco> go on
21:29:28 <smooge> those were mine from about a year ago :)
21:29:38 <smooge> I passed them to Troy
21:29:58 <smooge> oh sorry different topic
21:30:02 <smooge> michel_slm, you are up
21:30:14 <pgreco> hehe, thought so
21:31:45 <michel_slm> #info epel-rpm-macros for epel7 now pulls in lua-srpm-macros
21:32:00 <michel_slm> so we can start cleaning up our messy Lua packages
21:32:35 <pgreco> do you have one in mind?
21:33:07 <michel_slm> probably my own packages. but all of them don't consistently use the macros, partly because a) the macros were Fedora only and b) they were not well announced
21:34:23 <pgreco> so with el6 out of the way, that will allow unifying spec files from master for some packages
21:36:32 * smooge has learning more Lua this weekend
21:36:52 <pgreco> my to-do list for learning stuff keeps growing
21:37:05 <michel_slm> f32 is the odd one out, I'm not sure how redhat-rpm-config maintainers would feel about making an exception to "we never bump the release field"
21:37:06 <pgreco> luckily some stuff gets deprecated even before I learn about it
21:37:29 <pgreco> ok, so 7 months max
21:37:45 <michel_slm> because otherwise, we can't touch f32 Lua specs. I'll do a PR anyway and see if anyone objects
21:38:24 <pgreco> yeap
21:38:34 <pgreco> anything else epel-7?
21:39:34 <pgreco> #topic EPEL-8
21:40:08 <pgreco> do we have anything for epel-8?
21:40:50 <pgreco> smooge, since you're here, do you know if there is a way to get notified when a package is pushed?
21:41:07 <pgreco> even if you're not directly related to the package
21:42:21 <pgreco> I'm asking because I maintain a plugin for znc that needs to be rebuilt every time znc is updated
21:42:59 <smooge> I expect there is someway to write a notification filter for it
21:43:15 <smooge> but I hate our notification system with a passion of a million stars
21:43:36 <pgreco> hehe, then not an easy way, ok ;)
21:43:40 <smooge> mainly because too many people seem to set it to firehose and then go AWOL and I have to go clean it up
21:44:14 <smooge> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/about
21:44:53 <pgreco> ok, one more thing to read over the weekend, thanks!
21:45:15 <pgreco> anything else?
21:45:22 <smooge> not from me
21:45:45 <pgreco> #topic General Issues / Open Floor
21:46:26 <pgreco> I don't have anything now, though my question could have been either epel-8 or open floor
21:47:38 <smooge> ok I hope you all have a good weekend
21:48:24 <michel_slm> have a good weekend all
21:48:27 <pgreco> #endmeeting